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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
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Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.   The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved.  Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
    • You can use a family's address.   The only caveat is for the final hearing you'd need to be there in person   HOWEVER i'd expect them to pay if its only £200 because costs of attending will be higher than that
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Hi,

 

I don't know if I'm posting this in the right place but I need help.

 

My daughters boyfriend has just received an eviction notice, stating the eviction will take pkace a week on Thursday. I'm currently sketchy on the details but it's all due to problems with housing benefits etc.

 

Hes had a nightmare of a couple f years, he was persuaded to take a 16 hour a week job because he was on DLA and could claim working tax credits, he also kept his housing benefit. He then lost his claim to DLA when he had to change to pip and so lost his working tax credits. He also lost his housing benefit but that was reinstated.

 

Currently he has a total income of £120 per week and is supposed to be paying towards his rent as his housing benefit doesn't cover it all.

 

Now he's buried his head in the sand, my daughter had just phoned me to say that he's being evicted and the eviction notice was delivered on Saturday morning.

 

He has tried to contact the council today to see if there is any way he can stop the eviction and they have said no not unless he pays all of the arrears.

I don't know if the amount they are wanting includes all of the costs that will have been added to the debt outstanding.

 

Is there anything at all that can be done to help him keep his home or are we looking at a lost cause?

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Ok more information.

 

My daughters boyfriend didn't receive any court order, they didn't lodge a defence or attend the court because there was no knowledge of it, would it be possible to apply to the court to get another hearing?

 

I will post further information as I get it

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Hi

 

I posted a similar thread in homelessness as I didn't know where to post.

 

I need help if at all possible.

 

My daughters boyfriend rents a flat from the local council. With problems with benefits being stopped and other problems he has run up rent arrears. He does now get housing benefit and pays towards the rent. He works 16 hours a week and has a weekly income of £120. This is the only money he gets per week.

 

On Saturday morning he received an eviction notice for a week on Thursday. He hasn't received anything else. I've asked him about court hearing documents and filing a defence but he's said he didn't receive anything else just the eviction Notice.

 

I haven't the figure of the arrears, but he's been in a mess since his DLA was stopped as he was supposed to transfer to pip and that claim was not allowed and he lost his working tax credits because he no longer got either DLA or pip.

 

I need to know if there is anything at all we can do? Can we try to go back to court to get some kind f arrangement or s it all too late, the problem is is that he will loose his job if he looses his flat and it becomes a nightmare of a situation. I wouldn't see him homeless, but I live 45 miles away from where he works and there is no way for him to get to work for 4 hrs a day if he has to move in with me.

 

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated,

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Hi

 

We would really need to know what was written in the eviction notice letter the council sent. (Check this link: https://www.gov.uk/council-housing-association-evictions)

 

Have they had any other previous letter from council about rent arrears?

 

Due to the issues you mention did they let they council housing know of these issues and was a Payment Plan set up to pay arrears? (if a payment plan was set up did they miss any payments?)

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Hi thanks for your reply

 

I'm working semi blind n this matter at the moment, from what I've been told the eviction will take place a week on Thursday, it's all ready been to court although, there were no court papers sent to my daughters boyfriend.

 

I honestly don't know if there was a payment plan set up, from what I've been told he's been paying the part of the rent that he owes weekly

 

I've read the information on the link you sent, I'm going to have to talk to them in the morning, you might be able to tell I can't sleep I'm that worried.

 

Today when they phoned they were told that there was no negotiation now either pay what's owed or they were out.

 

I know the details are sketchy, but it's all I have to work on at the moment until I'm told more.

 

Is there anyway we can get it back to court to see if a repayment plan can be set up? Or is it now too late to do anything

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Hi

 

I've talked to shelter this morning, and we are going to have to move fast. They said to contact civil legal advice as should be entitled to legal aid and they might be able to help.

 

I still need advice if anyone has any and the civil advice team can't help

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Hello there. I've flagged your thread for the team to see if anyone can help.

 

I've also merged both your threads into a single one in the repos forum, it's best to keep to one thread per problem.

 

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Thanks honeybee

 

I posted again because the first thread wasn't getting any replies.

 

Got a bit of an update

 

I finally managed to get through to my daughters boyfriend that there was a slight chance he might keep his home if he acted fast. He was about to go to work but managed to call the civil legal advice line.

 

The good news is that it looks like he's entitled to legal aid and was passed over to their legal team. They have given him a list of things that they need him to do, they also said because of his low income he should have applied for a disgressionary payment to help with his rent from the council and told him to apply for that now, also he should be able to get help in the form of tax credits and have given him a number to ring yo get help with that.

 

They also said that it was extremely likely that he would be seen by another judge and once he had the information from him they would submit the relevant documents into the court.

 

I' still need help to know what's going to happen, because if I have some idea then I can explain it to him and hopefully get him to actually get what needs to be done done

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Hi, if the legal representative makes an application to court to have the eviction stopped - it is more than likely they will get it stopped due to the circumstances around his benefits claims/payments. He will have to make an offer to catch up with the arrears payments, but I'm pretty sure he'll be OK.

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Hi honeybee.

 

The letter was a warrant of eviction, to take place next Thursday

 

I asked if he had the judgement letter from the court or any other documentation and all he's had is the warrant. I haven't seen it yet, but I assume that they are mostly all the same.

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Hi Ell-enn

 

I'm just worrying that they won't be able to get it stopped, I went through similar 4 years ago and lost my house, but I tried to do it by myself and hopefully this time they might be able to stop it.

 

I'll keep everyone updated

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I thought I had posted again on here as I'm starting to panic again... I don't know where it's gone but can't see it.

 

Ok, daughters boyfriend contacted the civil legal people, he's done exactly what they have to,d him to do, he's been to see the housing benefit people and has been awarded the disgressionary payment to help with his rent, he's contacted his utility companies, he was and has been paying back a debt owed to them. One is finished in November and one still has at least six months to go. He's talked to his boss to see if there is any way they can increase his hours but was told not at the moment yo that question.

 

Now the reason for my panic, is the papers still haven't been filed with the court. I'm aware the clock is ticking and it's getting very close to deadline midnight. So is there still time to stop this? If it's not stopped will we be able to get back in to get his stuff out after Thursday, or is there any way we can try yo file the papers at court before Thursday and be seen?

 

I did hope I would have more information by now or at least he would have a court date.

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They have a court date... 10am tomorrow.

 

The civic legal people didn't get the forms to them in time so the cab helped fill in the forms and they have a time now.

 

Now I'm worried about somebody going in with him, he really doesn't do well in situations like this

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Is there someone available from CAB to go with him ?

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He's waiting for cab to call him back, they said they would phone him back today.

 

The hearing time and date was quicker than we expected, they said that this was the only one available before the eviction will take place....

 

I don't know enough to be able to help him though that's the problem.

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Ok,

 

The cabs been on the phone, they don't send out people to represent them, they are only offering advice. They said that they will email a letter for him to take with him

 

This is bad isn't it

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Well today didn't go as planned and it's been a total wash out.

 

We couldn't get a suspended possession order and so he needs to be out by Thursday at 1pm

 

It's been a complete cock up from start to finish. He's been paying the difference between his housing benefit about £35 per week religiously, yes he had arrears but thought that he was ok once his housing benefit was restarted. What they failed to tell him was that it wasn't backdated so he had arrears. Also added onto the arrears were all the legal costs etc which made the figures look worse than they were. The judge ignored the fact that the charges pushed up the arrears.

 

She also said that he had no way of affording the rent and that she could see that he was struggling to pay each month and didn't know how he could afford to pay the £35 per week that he's paying now to pay off the arrears as he was awarded the discretionary award that would make up his housing benefit. So the benefits would pay all of his rent and he pay the £35 per week that he was all ready paying

 

She also said that keeping his job was not good enough a reason to let him continue living in a flat that it was blatant that he could not afford.

 

So he's just lost his home and his only form of income in one fair swoop,

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Hi honey bee

 

The judge didn't want to know, there was the evidence to prove that his total rent was covered until at least April and his payment record showed that he was paying £35 per week religiously. I can't help thinking just how unfair this has been

 

He was talked into taking a part time job, but lost his DLA when it became pip and because of it he lost his housing benefit because it also meant he lost his working tax credit because he was working to few hours to qualify. He was stuck in a part time job that he couldn't quit because he then would have had problems claiming jsa

 

It's been a vicious circle that ended today. What has me worried is that yes he can live here, he's not going to be homeless as such, but I live 45 miles away from where he works so it's going to be impossible for him to get to work, and the bus charges over £10 one way which means he's not going to be able to go to work.

 

Actually, would this be a good enough reason for him to claim jsa again? Or will they see it as intentionally quitting his job?

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