Unclear PCN islington council junction is Calshot Street N1

[DEE052815]

Evening all

 

I require a little help please,

 

 

I have received a PCN today from Islington Council,

 

 

the 1st thing I'm confused about is the date of the alleged contravention is 29/9/14

however the notice is dated 26/11/14 nearly 2 months later.

 

 

I have had the car for nearly 4 years and lived at my current address for 6 years so DVLA have had all the correct information on me.

 

2nd issue is,

it states that I failed to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle,

 

 

now looking at the pics on the PCN they are saying I turnrd right and shouldn't have.

 

 

The only signs I can see are the ones on the actual road once I've turned right,

so how would anyone be able to see the sign of you have already turned right?

 

 

There are no other signs prior to approaching the junction nor in front of my view.

 

 

Would this make a success representation?

 

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[SabreSheep]

Sometimes putting the junction location can aid posters that know the junction.

[DEE052815]

Sorry, was trying to upload PCN, but the junction is Calshot Street N1

[SabreSheep]

No worries. It can help sometimes as some people might have been there or know the junction.

 

Might be handy to walk and photograph the junction to make sure u get evidence and also did not miss anything

[DEE052815]

I think I have successfully added a pic

[DEE052815]

Yes I'm about to drive the 9 miles and take some snaps, but to be honest how do I know that any signs that are there now haven't been erected since the alleged contravention? After all that was two months ago

[SabreSheep]

There would be ways and means but it would invovle a lot of digging. Freedom of information requests to the local authority to find out when the job "Of installing the signs" was and when they were signed off as being installed. BUT depends on whether you want the hassel.

 

If someone confirms that they were recently installed or not there then you have avenues to explore

[DEE052815]

Oh ok, thanks for that, however what about the delay in sending, the poor if not non existent signs well from my view anyway. Waiting for other half to drive me there now and take pics.

[Michael Browne]

There is a No Right Turn sign before the junction:

http://goo.gl/maps/BqkIk

 

And no traffic except cycles here:

http://goo.gl/maps/T3bSU

 

 

The Civil Enforcement of Parking Contraventions (England) General Regulations 2007:

 

(4) Subject to paragraph (6), a regulation 10 penalty charge notice may not be served later than the expiration of the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which, according to a record produced by an approved device, or information given by a civil enforcement officer, the contravention to which the penalty charge notice relates occurred (in these Regulations called “the 28-day period”).

[green_and_mean]

There is a No Right Turn sign before the junction:

http://goo.gl/maps/BqkIk

 

And no traffic except cycles here:

http://goo.gl/maps/T3bSU

 

 

The Civil Enforcement of Parking Contraventions (England) General Regulations 2007:

 

 

This is not a parking contravention

[Michael Browne]

This is not a parking contravention

My mistake. How about this?

 

(1)Subject to the provisions of this section, no penalty charge notice may be served under this Act after the expiry of the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the alleged contravention or failure to comply ocurred.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/section/6/enacted

[DEE052815]

Morning, thanks for your replies, I honest did not see the no right turn sign, surely it should be near the junction and not where it's placed, failing that do I have an representation challenge in the grounds it's over 28 days served? But surely why would Islington send it out if they know it could be argued. I'm not disagreeing with anyone whatsoever, it's just when I write to them I wish to be prepared for their responses

[ericsbrother]

As the appeal to council is initially informal just send in your appeal on those grounds and see what they have to say for themselves. They may well just cancel knowing that they will stand a good cahnce of losing a formal appeal.