Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • Yes you should take this view, but this is nothing to worry about you will be fine. you have a very well edited WX im sure although I haven't actually looked at it because I can't seem to work out which one is the new one anymore, although I do remember something previously. however if i remember it right its just a lost parcel via packlink and no insurance which frankly is pretty straightforward and should be a copy of farooq v evri. Have I understood the case right? Please tell me if not as there is rather a lot on this forum
    • well in every other thread advocate or not evri always send a cpr27.9 because they never turn up. I don't think we've seen a thread here without one. Maybe @BankFodder can tell me if i've missed one, but all of the ones I can remember there has been a cpr 27.9 notice even when an advocate has attended and from my own knowledge also I've always had CPR 27.9 advocate or not. I dont think there is a single thread on this forum where evri have shown up themselves and similarly I don't think there is a single thread where they dont send notice (aside from this)
    • OK, thanks.  Jake Burgess is well known to us - and well despised. Friday would be great as then there would be the weekend to tweak things. 👍
    • Thanks FTMDave.  VCS's WS was from Jake Burgess.  I will draft my WS and share with copies of court order, and VCS's exhibits asap.  I'm away tomorrow so more likely Friday.  Thanks again for the advice   
    • Thanks. Time to move on this. 1.  You need to tweak the magnificent WS that dx suggested.  Adapt it to your case.  It should take you about half an hour (I recently wrote a WS from scratch during a train journey which wasn't optimum 😂 with lots of cross referencing and it took me an hour an half, you have one already cooked thanks to dx). 2.  We will add bits to ridicule VCS's WS - it's rich that they moan about your defence being standard when their Particulars of Claim are too and also include the rubbish about keeper/driver that has been criticised numerous times by the courts. 3.  Who wrote their WS?  Was it Mohammed Wali or Ambreen Arshad or have they got someone new? 4.  We need to see a good chunk of VCS's exhibits.  I don't get why we have to keep asking you for things rather than them being volunteered.  Isn't it obvious that we can't help you compile a decent WS if we can't see what the other side is arguing?  All their silly signs aren't needed, but any contract with the landowner is important as are all the photos of your vehicle. 5.  You've never shown us the court order which fixes the hearing date.  It should be obvious we need to see what the court has ordered.  This is the second time we've asked. 6.  VCS were using Elms Legal.  Are Elms Legal still involved? 
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
        • Like
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
        • Like
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Provident and Lowells


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 3501 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

I have a debt with provident which is now some two years old,

 

I have arthritis and chrones disease and am unable to work let alone leave the house very often.

 

due to events 2000 my husband now suffers with severe PTSD

he has just been diagnosed with arthritis and COPD,

 

he has been told that the extent of his trauma and facts that arose from from counselling ( childhood abuse)

that he is totaly unable to work or be in regular contact with people whom he does not know.

 

A debt collector called regular and took a small amount each time for the debt which stopped after a while.

 

Since the government crackdown on benefits by the government our income has decreased significantly

and we are now having to pay 25% of our Council Tax,

this leaves us absolutely no money to spare,

 

we cut of the gas ourselves and eat once a day.

 

I have now had a letter from Provident stating that they have sold the loan to Lowells

who say we now owe them the debt and are demanding payment,

 

what can I do I just dont have any money to give them?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Shirts, I will try and find someone who can help :)

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group

Uploading documents to CAG ** Instructions **

Looking for a draft letter? Use the CAG Library

Dealing with Customer Service Departments? - read the CAG Guide first

1: Making a PPI claim ? - Q & A's and spreadsheets for single premium policy - HERE

2: Take back control of your finances - Debt Diaries

3: Feel Bullied by Creditors or Debt Collectors? Read Here

4: Staying Calm About Debt  Read Here

5: Forum rules - These have been updated - Please Read

BCOBS

1: How can BCOBS protect you from your Banks unfair treatment

2: Does your Bank play fair - You can force your Bank to play Fair with you

3: Banking Conduct of Business Regulations - The Hidden Rules

4: BCOBS and Unfair Treatment - Common Examples of Banks Behaving Badly

5: Fair Treatment for Credit Card Holders and Borrowers - COBS

Advice & opinions given by citizenb are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME TO GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU PROVIDE A LINK TO YOUR THREAD THEN I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER ADVICE THERE:D

Link to post
Share on other sites

how many loans have you had with provi before this?

 

 

how much do you owe?

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi shirts

 

As DX has stated if you can provide details of the debts, dates?, who? and amounts? then we can advise on actions, there is a lot you can do, maybe even claim charges back on credit card / bank debts.

 

Have a read of the following links:-

 

7) DON'T BE BULLIED BY CREDITORS / DCA's CLICK HERE

8) IN DEBT DON'T PANIC CLICK HERE

Link to post
Share on other sites

how many loans have you had with provi before this?

 

 

how much do you owe?

 

 

dx

I've had 3 or four loans from provident and have always paid in full and on time,

 

my husbands income was reduced by 60% when he had to stop work,

 

even his DLa does not cover what its intended for and

 

he has regularly (and myself) canceled hospital appointments because we simply cant get there

Link to post
Share on other sites

did the loans run into each other? [refinanced]

 

 

i'e, a new loan was taken out and the old loan cleared by the new one?

 

 

did the agent take, at anytime a new loan was given, any money for its first payment

when the new loan was given?

 

 

i'e he gave you money, you then had to give some back?

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

did the loans run into each other? [refinanced]

 

 

i'e, a new loan was taken out and the old loan cleared by the new one?

 

 

did the agent take, at anytime a new loan was given, any money for its first payment

when the new loan was given?

 

 

i'e he gave you money, you then had to give some back?

 

 

dx

no, these were all separate
Link to post
Share on other sites

ok thank you

 

 

just for clarity

he took no immediate payment when handing over the latest loan?

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

that's the ticket

 

 

no wonder they sold it

 

 

they must give a 14days cooling off period in case you decide you don't want it.

 

 

agreement unenforceable

 

 

dx

  • Confused 1

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

http://fshandbook.info/FS/html/handbook/ICOBS/7/1

 

 

And from their own Website......

 

Right Of Withdrawal

 

With any loan there’s a right of withdrawal, which gives you 14 days to change your mind. During this time you can cancel your agreement at any point. The cooling off period starts either from the date of the loan agreement or the date when you received your copy of the agreement- whichever is latest.

 

If you decide you’d like to cancel your loan agreement within the withdrawal period, you must contact the company directly either by telephone, email or letter and inform them of your wish to cancel your loan.

 

If you do cancel your loan, you’ll need to repay the money borrowed plus any interestlink3.gif within 30 days of date the loan was cancelled.

 

 

have you par chance the agreement plus the T&C's?

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

no, these were all separate

yes he took the first payment

 

I'm a little confused. The previous loans were completely settled, an agent turned up, gave you a new loan and took the first payment on the same day?

 

 

have you par chance the agreement plus the T&C's?dx

 

I can't remember the exact wording offhand but there is line within the agreement that states that the first repayment will not be taken for at least 7 days after the loan has been issued. I can probably dig a blank agreement out and put up a scan if you want the exact T&C's.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...