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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
    • Thanks for all the suggestions so far I will amend original WS and send again for review.  While looking at my post at very beginning when I submitted photos of signs around the car park I noticed that it says 5 hours maximum stay while the signage sent by solicitor shows 4 hours maximum stay but mine is related to electric bay abuse not sure if this can be of any use in WS.
    • Not sure what to make of that or what it means for me, I was just about to head to my kip and it's a bit too late for legalise. When is the "expenditure occured"?  When they start spending money to write to me?  Or is this a bad thing (as "harsh" would imply)? When all is said and done, I do not have two beans to rub together, we rent our home and EVERYTHING of value has been purchased by and is in my wife's name and we are not financially linked in any way.  So at least if I can't escape my fate I can at least know that they will get sweet FA from me anyway   edit:  ah.. Sophia Harrison: Time bar decision tough on claimants WWW.SCOTTISHLEGAL.COM Time bar is a very complex area of law in Scotland relating to the period in which a claim for breach of duty can be pursued. The Scottish government...   This explains it like I am 5.  So, a good thing then because creditors clearly know they have suffered a loss the minute I stop paying them, this is why it is "harsh" (for them, not me)? Am I understanding this correctly?  
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I booked a stay in a Scottish Hotel some time ago via their trade stand at a flower show. When we arrived the accommodation was nothing like the photos on their website or on the stand. The room was damp, cold, dirty and had no soft furnishings to speak of. Bedding looked filthy and the electrical wiring rather suspect. On top of that, we were told on arrival that the water was unsafe for consumption so they'd be giving us bottled water.

 

They were fully booked, so the only option we had was to put up with it or go home (600 mile round trip) and pay £10 to change our booking. We asked for a refund and the manager was very rude.

 

Afterwards we wrote to the hotel a few times without joy. I therefore started a small claim online as the hotel company is registered in England & Wales. Judgement was made end of January in my favour, instructing the hotel to pay me £167.44.

 

They've ignored the court order, despite me writing to them again twice. I even phoned and was told they have no intention of paying. They don't even seem to care they now have a CCJ against the limited company.

 

So, what's the best way to take this further? I understand I can commence enforcement action, but only their registered address is in England. Can the court bailiffs go to the Scottish trading address?

 

Any advice is welcome...

 

J.

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Hi Angling man

 

Did you issue the claim in England ?

 

Did you issue it in their LTD name?

 

Is the Judgment Forthwith?

 

Why do you not want to execute it at their England Office...its all the same company ?

 

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Hi Andy,

 

Thanks for replying.

 

The claim was issued in England and in their company name. Their registered office is in England, but I suspect it'll have nothing of any value belonging to the company that bailiffs can take. I don't want to spend £100 on enforcement if I'm unlikely to get anything back.

 

I've since found out from Trading Standards that the hotel is now trading under a different company name, but owned by the same directors. The directors have multiple companies and the hotel seems to have transfered between 2 or 3 of them over the last few years. It's all looks very suspect. The company I have the judgement against is Portsonachan Hotel Limited

 

I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by the judgement being forthwith.

 

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Judgment forthwith ...payment with immediate effect.

 

" Their registered office is in England, but I suspect it'll have nothing of any value belonging to the company that bailiffs can take. I don't want to spend £100 on enforcement if I'm unlikely to get anything back."

 

They can ask for cash!

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Yes, I just checked and it says forthwith on the judgement.

 

Portsonachan Hotel Ltd have just filed their accounts for 2012 and reported £33,412 in assets (but over £1m in liabilities). What's my best route, debt collectors that enforce CCJ's or enforcement action through the courts. I don't need the money, I just want this hotel to understand they can't keep ripping people off so want the best chance of making them pay.

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There is some useful information about how to do this on the Scottish court website: http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/taking-action/frequently-asked-questions/general-faqs/serving-or-enforcing-a-court-order. Its not hugely difficult but there are a few hoops to jump through.

 

 

Its probably easiest to hand it over to Scottish bailiffs if you can. I wonder if they would deal with the procedure for you, at least the Scottish side.

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I'm not sure that would yield anything as the hotel now trades under a company called Holidays Direct Marketing (Southern) Limited, same directors though.

 

I think they may just say there's nothing belonging to Portsonachan Hotel Limited there, even though the hotel is called Portsonachan Hotel.

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That's certainly a possibility angling_man. Unfortunately it is very difficult to know either way who actually owns the hotel. I guess you might be able to check with the Land Registry (or equivalent in Scotland). If it turns out that the new entity owns the hotel and you can't identify any assets held by the original entity, you might have to bring a new claim against the new entity instead.

 

How did you pay? If through debit or credit card the easiest way would be to use chargeback. If not but you know who they bank with, then a third party debt order against their bank account is an option.

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Thanks for replying, that's quite helpful...

 

Land Registry is a possibility, I may try that avenue. Is it possible to start a new claim?

 

I paid Debit Card, so I'll find out if Chargeback is an option, although I'm not sure if there's a time limit on that.

 

I've considered a 3rd part debt order, but don't know their bank account details or how to find them out. Would I have to attend court in person?

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You'd generally need to know who their bank is to get the TPDO and would need to attend court.

 

I think the easiest option would be chargeback ... best to start the ball rolling with this on your bank. I hope it should be straightforward as you already have a CCJ.

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I checked the timescales on chargeback and I'm outside them. Had I known about chargeback before starting the small claim, I would've been fine.

I thought I'd only be able to make a claim for the money once. Is it possible to bring a new claim against the new entity? If so, how do I approach it? Do I repeat the claim as before, or do I claim the unpaid claim (if that makes sense)?

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Do you know for sure that the old entity does not have any assets? Do you know if they are still contracting in the name of the old entity? You need to do a little digging to try and work out what happened.

 

If you paid by debit card, can your bank help you identify which bank the payment was made to? If you can work out the bank, you can go for a TPDO over the account.

 

 

You could of course just claim against the new entity. You'd have to take the risk of them saying you contracted with another entity but they would need to substantiate that. The disadvantage of this approach is that you wouldn't recover court fees from your original claim.

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Do you know for sure that the old entity does not have any assets? Do you know if they are still contracting in the name of the old entity? You need to do a little digging to try and work out what happened.

 

If you paid by debit card, can your bank help you identify which bank the payment was made to? If you can work out the bank, you can go for a TPDO over the account.

 

 

You could of course just claim against the new entity. You'd have to take the risk of them saying you contracted with another entity but they would need to substantiate that. The disadvantage of this approach is that you wouldn't recover court fees from your original claim.

 

 

 

In relation to your last paragraph is the burden of proof not on the OP to prove he contracted with the new entity, not the other way around?

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In relation to your last paragraph is the burden of proof not on the OP to prove he contracted with the new entity, not the other way around?

Yes, burden of proof is on the op ... although if the new entity is operating the hotel and the op stayed at the hotel, I imagine it would be difficult for them to claim otherwise.

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Unlike court issue fees to commence a claim, the enforcement fees are fixed regardless of value (that is the position in England & Wales, and I anticipate it will be the same in Scotland).

 

Unfortunately, spending money on enforcement fees might see you left further out of pocket if there are no assets to enforce against - it sounds as if the trading company running the hotel is a different company. You might want to write to the debtor with a copy of the judgment, notifying that you will shortly be sending the bailiff round unless they pay within 7 days. Having a bailiff in their reception could be embarrassing to a hotel.

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