'Counselling' ???

[jaisunny]

I wonder if anyone has any information on this?

 

I have found some information here: http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/counselling-at-work

 

But is this information accurate for UK mainland? ie England? if not does anyone have any information regarding 'counselling forms, counselling session or anything to do with counselling at a place of work without the use of a trained and professional counsellor'?

 

Im interested to learn more about it.

[Emmzzi]

Bit of an abstract question. What's your situation? There are dozens of ways to answer such a broad topic,narrow it down for us?

[jaisunny]

Bit of an abstract question. What's your situation? There are dozens of ways to answer such a broad topic,narrow it down for us?

 

With my employer they hand out 'counselling forms' they are forms of bullying and not a helping session as what it should be. As per the northern ireland government it states you do not need to take part in a counselling session. Wondered if this still stands in England too.

[Emmzzi]

If you are a therapist or psychiatrist it is common for you to have to be treated yourself.... By counselling though do they actually mean something like an informal chat about performance or similar?

[jaisunny]

If you are a therapist or psychiatrist it is common for you to have to be treated yourself.... By counselling though do they actually mean something like an informal chat about performance or similar?

 

Correct, by counselling they do mean an informal process. It is not really a chat. Its a form titled counselling, on the form it states what i have done wrong (supposedly). Then the manager writes what he thinks, then i write what i think and then sign it. The procedure seems formal and its bullying in the sense that for example the counselling form will be titled ' Leaving home at 8.40am as per tracker'. Although i did start work on time (9am) they are looking at the vehicle tracker to see when i leave my house, they expect me to leave home at 8am regardless of where the job is. The job in question on the counselling form was 15 minutes away, i do not get paid till 9am and my contract states 8am-9am is grace/travelling time without pay. Doesnt state must leave at 8am, of course i would if the job is 1 hour away or longer. The counselling procedure is used as bullying to force me to leave earlier than i need to be. THey have not given any evidence i got to the job late, they have many ways to find out when i arrive at the first job including tracker on vehicle, tracker on handheld device, information on handheld device when i update the call, information from customer when i arrived and finished. Sorry gone on a bit here. I really dont want to take part in these 'sessions' they are bullying in my eyes, so im hoping whats stated on the link in the original post also applies to England so that i can politely refuse to attend these sessions unless i know i have done something wrong.

[Emmzzi]

No.. This is a legitimate performance management process. You can of course challenge on the basis of what your contract states your hours etc should be.

[jaisunny]

No.. This is a legitimate performance management process. You can of course challenge on the basis of what your contract states your hours etc should be.

 

I agree it can be legitimate process, the same as the link in the original post. However in the link it states you can refuse the counselling if you want to, are you saying this process in england is not accepted?

[Emmzzi]

I'm saying what you are getting is performance management, not counselling. Link is not applicable.

[Emmzzi]

ps if you refuse the "counselling" I'd expect you to go straight to formal disciplinary process.

[jaisunny]

ps if you refuse the "counselling" I'd expect you to go straight to formal disciplinary process.

 

Agree with you again, if they think it is a matter to address and i refuse counselling then i expect a disciplinary.

 

That is why some of the counselling issued is not issued as part of a counselling session, it is fabricated evidence to bully. Like the example i gave you above, for these reasons i would prefer to opt out of the 'counselling'. For legitimate reasons im happy to proceed with counselling.