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The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of the issue of these proceedings in the sum of £49.15 The Claimant claims the sum of £972 What is the total value of the claim? £1112 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? I dont know the details of the PAPDC to know if it was pursuant to paragraph 3, but I did receive a Letter of Claim with a questionaire/form to fill. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? no Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned/purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I was aware, I'm not certain I received a 'Notice of Assignment' from Capital One but may have been informed the account had been sold without such a title on the letter? Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not since the debt purchase, and not from Capital One. Why did you cease payments? I can't remember - it was the tail end of the pandemic and I may not have had enough income to keep up payments - I am self-employed and work in the event industry - at that time. I also had a bank account that didn't allow direct debits and may have just forgotten payments and became annoyed at fines for late payments. What was the date of your last payment? Appears to be 20/4/2022 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No Here is my Defence: Defence - 1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had an agreement with Capital One but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request.. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unaware of having been served with a Default Notice pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. I am unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law and Property Act 1925 Section 136(1) 5. The Defendant has sent a request by way of a section 78 pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, for a copy of the agreement, the Claimant has yet to comply and remains in default of said request. 6. A further request has been made via CPR 31.14 to the Claimants solicitor, requesting disclosure of documents on which the Claimant is basing their claim. The Claimant has not complied and to date nothing has been received. 7. It is therefore not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to: a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement and; b) show how the Claimant has reached the amount claimed for and; c) show the nature of the breach and evidence by way of a Default Notice pursuant to sec 88 CCA1974 d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim 8. As per Civil Procedure 16.5 it is expected that the claimants prove the allegation that the money is owed 9. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of section 136 of the Law of Property Act and section 82A of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief. .................. 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The one single page of agreement sent (so not the full agreement) has a 16 digit number at the top in small print, next to 'Capital One' which corresponds to a number called 'PURN' printed at the top of each of the 10 pages of ins and outs of the account (they're not official statements, but a list of monthly goings) yet no mention anywhere on either of the account number. I cant really scan them at the moment - I can later tomorrow, but that will be after the mediation call I'm sure. I guess I may be on my own for this mediation ... I am not certain the CCA request has been satisfied .. or if the CPR has been . And then I appear to have evidence that the Default notices provided are fabricated ? Yet, I do have (elsewhere ... not at home) Default letters from Capital One I can check ..
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DVLA fine from 2002 - not know before 2013 - bailiff in attendance - whats my rights?


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Afternoon - Happy New Year.

 

my husband was sent a letter from someone in August 2013 saying he owed 450.00 for non payment of tax on a vehicle.

 

We disputed this as the vehicle was traded in against a new vehiucle in 2001/2002.

 

They asked us to phone DVLa which we did - they had no record of the fine so we presumed it was a con.

 

In Dec 13 we had Marston Bailiff attend the property for £715.

 

We took some advice and wrote a letter on 18th Dec to DVLA

and magistrates court and Marstons asking for recover to cease as debt was in dispute.

 

The recov er was not stoped.

We have been in touch with bailiff again after he attended on 31st Dec.

He has text this morning saying he will return at 5pm to remove goods.

 

As it is a magistrates fine we have been informed that he can legally enter thr property without our consent but rarely do.

 

Ive called the DVLA again today to follow up the letter

- only to be told it can take 4 weeks for an answer and to add to that that although there is a gap in 2001/2002 of vehicle excise duty

- they cannot see a fine to it.

 

As this is so long a go and we did not have any prior notification of this I believe it is MAL administration on thier behlaf.

 

However this will not stop the bailiff.

 

What do I do now?

Where do I stand?

 

Not all the goods belong to me and some of them I dont have proof of ownership and the debt is in my husbands name

 

If I pay it - how do I go about getting my money back?

 

How do I stop recovery action quickly?

 

Ive also been advised that I can write to the magistrates court and ask for it to go back to court

but this could take weeks if not months.

Marstons HO and Bailiff are not interested in the dispute!

 

help greatly appreciated as he is attending again at 5pm today to remove goods.

 

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I am sorry to have to tell you that the previous information that you had received was wrong.

 

A criminal offence has been registered against your partner and the ONLY way to have this revoked is to apply to the magistrates court where the fine was registered to file a Statutory Declaration.

 

Unfortunately you have a problem but as long as you explain the situation this should be ok. The problem is that you are SUPPOSED to apply to file a Statutory declaration within 21 days of BECOMING AWARE OF THE MATTER. In your case the statutory declaration should have been aplied for when you received the letter earlier this year.

 

If you are forced into a position where you have to pay you may still apply for a statutory declaration and this will revoke the conviction and you will naturally be entitled to a refund.

 

Any queries please post back.

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Thank u for replying. I've borrowed the money myself and paying the bailiff tonight as I can't see what else I can do as he was coming to remove goods anyway with a locksmith.

What is a statutory dec and where do I do it please?

 

Paula

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You could tell the bailiff you are doing a Statutory Declaration at the local court regarding this matter, and that he would therefore be advised to cease and desist for the time being; as as soon as the SD is accepted by the court, any goods he takes will have to be returned, and any payment will have to be refunded.

 

If you pay the bailiff you would have a harder job to gain a refund once you challenge the conviction, as this is a minor matter I would be very surprised indeed if he came with a locksmith at this point.

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Thank u for replying. I've borrowed the money myself and paying the bailiff tonight as I can't see what else I can do as he was coming to remove goods anyway with a locksmith.

What is a statutory dec and where do I do it please?

 

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"I would be very surprised indeed if he came with a locksmith at this point." As would I, stunned more like.

The "I'll be back with a locksmith" is an all too frequent (false) threat to put fear into people who do not know the 'rules of the game'. Fear creates authority (in peoples minds).

Personally I think such threats constitute fraud but getting a court to agree is another matter.

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Well he's been. I've paid. I took the decision as however unlikely it is I couldn't have the stress off wondering if he would.

So, I've already challenged by writing to dvla. What else do I need to do. Do I do a statutory dec at court? I rang a solicitor they wanted £250!

If I can do it myself what does it need to say?

 

Thanks for all the replies so far. Praps I'm not quite as confident as most if you ....

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"I rang a solicitor they wanted £250!"

 

NO NO No they cost around a tenner, this solicitor was being silly. The Stat Dec is still worth doing and can be done at a magistrates court also. Your excuse for paying the poltroon would be that you were put under duress by him.

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You stand before a Clerk of the court and repeat after them what they say then they tell you there and then that the case is ended and may/will be reheard at a later date, this you must attend or it may cost you in the long run. I did one of these a while ago and the DVLA never took the case to court again, in essence it was dismissed. No fine nothing but be warned it may go back to be re heard before the bench again. This takes less than five minutes and you leave the court and wait till/if a new date will be set for you to attend again.

 

 

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You stand before a Clerk of the court and repeat after them what they say then they tell you there and then that the case is ended and may/will be reheard at a later date, this you must attend or it may cost you in the long run. I did one of these a while ago and the DVLA never took the case to court again

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So do I apply for the case to be heard then? If so how do I do that now I've paid.

Or do I just go to the court and book to do a stat dec due ? If so what reasons do I give? That the case is incorrect, that I have received no letters until 2013 and that we didn't own the van then and due to length of time I cannot prove it?

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Okay - UPDATE!!

 

After all this time - I have been trying to get the original court record as advised by the MK Magistrates before we can do a Sat Dec. So I now have in my possession the court extract from August 2002. So now in a position to proceed but havent got the slightest idea where to start. I am desperate to not only get my money back (obviously) but out of principle I cannot believe that this can happen when not evewn the DVLA has it on thier systems anymore.

So to stop waffling - in laymans terms how do I go about going back to court to ask them todo a Sat dec (even though 12 years have past) and for them to re hear it and reverse it??

All advice greatfully received :-)

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