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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Lets not worry about that right now.

 

I think your letter covers all the points needed. You can even use your social anxiety to your advantage by explaining the reason there is so much detail is that you feared you would forget.

I actually wrote out a short statement of the key points i wanted to say and read it out.

Any opinion I give is from personal experience .

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I am not good at writing letters myself. If you have a strong medical report to back you up, then you should be ok regardless on how you write the letter to the tribunal. You can explain everything on the day yourself. The reason i wrote a letter beforehand was because i thought i might forget something.

The panel will be interested more in how you felt at the time of the appeal when it got turned down, not how you feel now.

 

Regarding as appealing again, i believe you can appeal to upper tribunal only point of law for example if the panel made any mistakes on looking into your case.

Take all your medical history, whatever you have available and take someone with you too, take all your medicine. If you feel emotional on the day don't hold it back let the panel see how you feel. I know how you feel, its not easy to explain to somebody on how the illness affects you.

 

This is only my opinion, im not an expert in this matter. If you go with my advice, please dont blame me. At the end of the day you have to decide on how you present your case.

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One bit that jumped out at me - I've underlined it.

 

 

IntroductionI, Chrisw am appealing against the decision made in 2011 to decline the award of Employment and Support Allowance on the grounds that I have not attained 15 points from the combined Physical and Mental Health descriptors following my Work Capability Assessment.

 

When scoring the Personal Capability Assessment/Work Capabilities Assessment I feel that both the Medical Services doctor and Decision Maker have over-estimated my level of ability.

 

The medical doctor at the centre saw me for 10 minutes I think the whole WCA was misrepresented I explained to the doctor that I have serve chest and spinal problems in which he told me that I should be getting that sorted as it could cause problems.

 

By revising the Score card to take account of my actual Physical and Mental Health conditions, I am of the view that I satisfy the threshold of 15 points required for the award.I believe and I will demonstrate below that by scoring the descriptors relevant to my condition correctly that I do attain the required threshold of 15 points.

 

On the physical part of ESA I told the doctor at atos that I suffer from scoliosis, pectus carinatum in which I suffer low chronic back pain as a result I’m on medication for this.

 

I also suffer from social anxiety and depression in which is now being referred to a neurologist for further examination.

 

When I Walk I get lower chronic back pain in my spine I sometimes get pain at the top of my neck. In my Physical Terms I should have been awarded 18 points Mobilise more than 200 metres on level ground without stopping in order to avoid significant discomfort or exhaustion. (6) – This is due to my scoliosis which causes low chronic back pain.

 

When I walk I always have to stop after about 100 meters to rest for about 5 to 10 seconds before starting to re walk. The walking does stop me from doing a lot of things for example if I had no transport I would not be able to get any essentials, when I walk up stairs I tend to stop halfway to let the pain go down and then I will walk up the rest of the stairs

 

Sitting (even in an adjustable chair) for more than an hour before needing to move away in order to avoid significant discomfort or exhaustion. (6) - This is due to my scoliosis which causes low chronic back pain when I sit I always have to move or readjust or get up and have to get up and move to avoid some significant discomfort.

 

During my assessment I waited quite some time after my appointment I had to get up and move several times in order not to fell discomfort

 

Has some difficulty conveying a simple message to strangers. – Due to my social anxiety I find it very hard to ask for directions or any thing from a person I do not know and I tend to talk very quite or my voice On my mental heath terms I should have been awarded 18 points

 

Engagement in social contact with someone unfamiliar to the claimant is not possible for the majority of the time due to difficulty relating to others or significant distress experienced by the individual. (6) – This due to my social anxiety in social situations I find it very hard to communicate and have difficulty relating to others. I Avoid most social contact even with friends and family. If someone I did not know met me I would fell very insecure and would try to get away from this person. I find it very hard to communicate with people I tend to avoid gatherings and if I see someone I know with someone I don’t I tend to shy away, avoid eye contact and try and keep myself unnoticed.

 

I avoid busy areas such as social gatherings which included pubs, bars and busy shopping areas as I fell very insecure and very nervous in that area.

 

Cannot cope with minor unplanned change (such as the timing of an appointment on the day it is due to occur), to the extent that overall, day to day life is made significantly more difficult. (6) – If something in the day changes I tend to get very stressed or if something has happened that can upset me I can get suicidal thoughts but theses tend to go after about a hour.

 

As in my report to the doctors I have felt thoughts of suicide. In otherways I can get very nervos for example if I not expecting someone to come and visit me and they knock on the door I would get paranoid and avoid opening the door or tend to stay in my room so they cant see me. Everyone who visits me know to ring me in advance to let me know.

 

I fell the doctor was wrong as he does not know how I act outside a clinic. Having to wait for the WCA did get me very edgy. I did not know what to do and was afaid to ask whats happening and why was it taking so long.

 

Is unable to get to a specified place with which the claimant is unfamiliar without being accompanied by another person. (6) – If I go to a area which I’m unfamiliar with I tend to get stressed out as if I get lost I fell very nervous to ask people for directions and I find it hard to communicate with people I don’t know. That’s way if I go to a place I don’t know I try take a family member or friend if I can to help me get around. I I know the area I would be ok but very cautious.

 

But if I don’t know the area I will be trying to ask as many people as I can to help me if I cant get anyone I will attempt to go but half way there I would turn back to avoid it.

 

Are you taking someone with you to the tribunal, and did you take someone with you to the ATOS assessment? If so point this out. Also explain any other examples of unfamiliar places you have had to be accompanied to - also what happens if not accompanied? Do you just not go?

 

If you are not going to be accompanied to tribunal or were not accompanied to the ATOS assessment then this descriptor will be a non starter. Again what evidence was in the WCA report for this descriptor and why were they wrong. You need to read this bit then delete it - as it is the questions I was asking you.

 

In Overall I should have been awarded with 36 points or 30 points which I hope that the Tribunal will support my appeal and that the Tribunal will authorise the re-instatement of my award.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office ~ Aesop

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well my 1st hearing was like suspended when i went there as all i had was x-rays and they wanted more inforamtion. my solistor said that is good as useully they cancel it off. i was very distressed that day and i mean very distressed. and when they went outside they saw me in a distress mode

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I am very surprised you took only x-rays as your evidence and very surprised that your solicitor said that it is good, i think you should have took all your evidence and get this hearing over and done. This means more waiting, more stress and more solicitors fee.

I was very stressful on the day, i told the panel please carry on and that i wanted to be here today. What you have written in your thread looks like you have a very strong case. Sorry it's shocking to hear that you just took your x-rays with you, that doesn't mean anything.

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Xrays were given to the truibal without anything else this was because my stupid doctor sent the stuff on the day of appeal. So my lawyer said I was lucky because they would of normaly closed the case but I was lucky the truibal delayed it. I have now got everything I need to hopefully win. My lawyers and CAB said I stand a good chance

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Xrays were given to the truibal without anything else this was because my stupid doctor sent the stuff on the day of appeal. So my lawyer said I was lucky because they would of normaly closed the case but I was lucky the truibal delayed it. I have now got everything I need to hopefully win. My lawyers and CAB said I stand a good chance

 

I think they might have adjourned it anyway because they didn't have the information in advance.

 

Thats what happened to my friend when she turned up on the day with all her supporting evidence.

 

I don't know if that usually happens though.

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Right one last quick question. I got a lift but I don't want the person coming into my truibal as I don't want them knowing my medical problems. Will that effect my truibal or will that accept that

 

They can sit in the waiting room - available to help you if need it and reassure you while you are waiting.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office ~ Aesop

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Although i respect your decision to keep your friends in the dark about mental health problems it can be this sort of behaviour that makes it harder for people to understand the issues. Are you sure your friend would not understand.

Any opinion I give is from personal experience .

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My friend said that's ok but my view is what the truibal will think about that. As I'm thinking when I'm called jim I explain I got a ride but my mate is outside as I don't want them knowing my personal medical history

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There wouldn't be a problem with you having a lift there - you have to get there somehow! Nor would there be a problem with your friend waiting in the waiting room or outside. The tribunal won't think anything of it. Their job is to try and assess you with as many points as they legally can. Hence why they tend to go through the ESA50 and the ATOS report with you and mainly rely on those items. Your points and answers would then be supported by whatever evidence you provide.

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There wouldn't be a problem with you having a lift there - you have to get there somehow! Nor would there be a problem with your friend waiting in the waiting room or outside. The tribunal won't think anything of it. Their job is to try and assess you with as many points as they legally can. Hence why they tend to go through the ESA50 and the ATOS report with you and mainly rely on those items. Your points and answers would then be supported by whatever evidence you provide.

 

Yes, but if the person doesn't either have someone in the tribunal room or the waiting room, they won't award any points for not being able to go to unfamiliar places - as the Tribunal is held in an unfamiliar place to most people.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office ~ Aesop

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Yes, but if the person doesn't either have someone in the tribunal room or the waiting room, they won't award any points for not being able to go to unfamiliar places - as the Tribunal is held in an unfamiliar place to most people.

 

I understand your point but still don't see it as a problem. His friend would have escorted him to the building / waiting room. Presuming the tribunal is set up in the same way as my two previous ones, a court usher will then take you from the waiting room to the tribunal room.

 

With regards to the tribunal itself, it is generally incredibly informal and friendly. Nothing like a Magistrates or Crown Court.

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No worries, I'm not trying to smooth over your anxieties. Mine were both held in the County Court which is a relaxed sort of a place for a Court. I'd be surprised if it's held in the main Magistrates Court itself and not in a large side room. But, then again, I've been surprised before. Good luck with it anyway and, I appreciate it's easier said then done, but the tribunal really is on your side ...

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I understand your point but still don't see it as a problem. His friend would have escorted him to the building / waiting room. Presuming the tribunal is set up in the same way as my two previous ones, a court usher will then take you from the waiting room to the tribunal room.

 

With regards to the tribunal itself, it is generally incredibly informal and friendly. Nothing like a Magistrates or Crown Court.

 

sorry, rae, I was just making the point (probably badly) that having someone in the waiting room can lend credence to the need for points for certain descriptors, and not having someone there can stop you getting the points.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office ~ Aesop

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You need to make the point clearly that you have someone with you.

 

Yes, definately, and not just say it's your lift (which suggests a transport issue), but that they are accompanying you do stress and anxiety and the very unfamiliar situation.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office ~ Aesop

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Has some difficulty conveying a simple message to strangers. – Due to my social anxiety I find it very hard to ask for directions or any thing from a person I do not know and I tend to talk very quite or my voice On my mental heath terms I should have been awarded 18 points

 

That descriptor is for physical disabilities, such as hearing or sight loss. The criteria you'd be looking at in relation to it being hard to ask for directions, etc. due to social anxiety would be engagement in social contact.

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