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    • "We suffer more in imagination than in reality" - really pleased this all happened. Settled by TO, full amount save as to costs and without interest claimed. I consider this a success but feel free to move this thread to wherever it's appropriate. I say it's a success because when I started this journey I was in a position of looking to pay interest on all these accounts, allowing them to default stopped that and so even though I am paying the full amount, it is without a doubt reduced from my position 3 years ago and I feel knowing this outcome was possible, happy to gotten this far, defended myself in person and left with a loan with terms I could only dream of, written into law as interest free! I will make better decisions in the future on other accounts, knowing key stages of this whole process. We had the opportunity to speak in court, Judge (feels like just before a ruling) was clear in such that he 'had all the relevant paperwork to make a judgement'. He wasn't pleased I hadn't settled before Court.. but then stated due to WS and verbal arguments on why I haven't settled, from my WS conclusion as follows: "11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. "  He offered to stand down the case to give us chance to settle and that that was for my benefit specifically - their Sols didn't want to, he asked me whether I wanted to proceed to judgement or be given the opportunity to settle. Naturally, I snapped his hand off and we entered negotiations (took about 45 minutes). He added I should get legal advice for matters such as these. They were unwilling to agree to a TO unless it was full amount claimed, plus costs, plus interest. Which I rejected as I felt that was unfair in light of the circumstances and the judges comments, I then countered with full amount minus all costs and interest over 84 months. They accepted that. I believe the Judge wouldn't have been happy if they didn't accept a payment plan for the full amount, at this late stage. The judge was very impressed by my articulate defence and WS (Thanks CAG!) he respected that I was wiling to engage with the process but commented only I  can know whether this debt is mine, but stated that Civil cases were based on balance of probabilities, not without shadow of a doubt, and all he needs to determine is whether the account existed. Verbal arguments aside; he has enough evidence in paperwork for that. He clarified that a copy of a DN and NOA is sufficient proof based on balance of probabilities that they were served. I still disagree, but hey, I'm just me.. It's definitely not strict proof as basically I have to prove the negative (I didn't receive them/they were not served), which is impossible. Overall, a great result I think! BT  
    • Seeking further advice now. The 33 days in which the defendant has to submit a defence expires at 16:00 tomorrow. The defendant has submitted an acknowledgement of service but looking to get the claim awarded by default in failure to submit the defence. This is MoneyClaim Online and can see an option to request a default judgement but believe that is for failure to acknowledge the claim within 14 days??  So being MoneyClaim Online, how do I request the claim be awarded in my favour?
    • Have to agree with the above Health and safety legislation is specific in that the service provider in so far as is reasonably practicable, the health, safety and welfare at work of all his employees and those not in the employ of the business. You claim is like saying you slipped in the swimming pool area while taking a dip. As rightly stated by by the leisure centre, a sports hall has dedicated equipment and you yourself personally have a legal obligation in mitigating danger or injury to yourself by taking account of your immediate surroundings. Where your claim will fail is if it is reasonable and proportionate to impose liability of the Leisure Centre? The answer has to be no.
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hi all newbie hear

 

i have just received aletter from Lloyds saying they are debiting £35.00 for an unpiad direct debit i also have an unpiad standing order to be processed as well. i have spoke to the internet bancking and they say go to my back and ask them first. they have already tried to fob me off to pay the £35.00 which is ludricous and i have now written a letter to them. has anyone done this befor the charges have been debited from there account and what happended.

 

i do have to say that lloyds is a terrible bank and will not assist you at any point. i am currently openeing another account with nationwode for my wages and direct debits to be taking out off. :)

 

also does anyone have a template which i can send off in the first instance to reclaim my previous charges.

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Hi heather

It doesnt hurt to try to get a charge wiped out before its debited from your account, think i've managed to do it on a couple of accasions over the years. At the end of the day its gunna depend on who you speak to and what mood they're in. Just be polite and you never know your luck.

 

As for claiming back your charges you must first obtain your last six years of statements and tot up exactluy how much they owe you. You can then start the wheel turning on claiming the lot back. All the templates and step by step instructions can be found here on this site so please read thorugh the FAQs

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/faqs-please-read-these/ before starting.

Keeps us informed and good luck

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ha just went into the bank and they aksed why i thought the charges were too much. but as i thought they wouldnt budge on reducing or deleting them. so i promptly handed them a letter saying that because of the OFT it was unlawful for them to charge £35.00. this will now be passed onto there cusotmer care department to be dealt with.

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Oh Dear, At any point did you stop to read the FAQ's. step-by-step instructions or rules of engagement which are all available from the bank templates library??

It is all very well arming yourself with a piece of information, but if you spent long enough reading these forums you may have learned there is a tried and tested method of recovering your charges.

 

i challenged the bank to give me breakdown of the charges and that they were once gain being illegal

 

The charges are not illegal, they are unlawful. If you have not distinguished between the two, you have not done enough research.

 

Perhaps if you post details of the letter, informing you of your 30days notice, someone with a bit more knowledge than me might be able to help.

In the meantime, spend some time searching the forum for information on banks closing accounts as retaliatory measures, and what you can do about it!!

 

Good Luck

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hi yes i have read the forums taking the information to succesfully receive my last 6 years of bank charges, sorry i meant to say unlawful and have said this in my letters.

 

the problem being they are still taking charges off me at the usual rate being £30/£35. at this point in time this month it is £95 worth of charges and next month £35. can you give me the link so i can see a forum about them closing accounts, im not really that bothered about them shutting the accounts as i have found the service and memebrs of staff within my local branch rather poor and they have been well taught on what to say to the customer when they appraoch them to challenge the charges, espcially when i was told that on no uncertain terms will they be refunding my charges this time around as i have already had them refunded. i have spoke to the financial osbudman about this and they have asked me to fill in a complaint form due to them closing my accounts because i have challenged them again about my charges. they can proceed to take to take the charges and i will send them the letter step 2 of the stage (as i know what bank charges they are and what date) and i will also be including the interest which they never paid me when they refunded my charges from the past 6 years.

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