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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
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A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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Whenever I send companies letters, I always enclose a copy of the letter they sent. This makes it easier for them to find their records.

 

Buchannon are a waste of time. They are a pain because the send loads of letters, but they don't do anything, beyond letters/phone calls. Dealt with them with a relatives debts, where communications were to my address, as it was used previously to forward on post. Anyway they sent loads of letters and phoned pretty much everyday, but it was for some debt my relative left behind more than 6 years earlier. Eventually they gave up after complaining, but I don't think they ever responded to the complaint. So you might not hear from them.

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Bit late unclebulgaria-sorry I didn't see your post,I was at the post office-I’m lucky enough to live in a part of town where they have a late night counter for sending stuff so I sent my letter & it should be with them in 1-2 days as I sent it via super swift trackable airmail. Yes,I did give them my address here. To be honest I’d rather take anything they throw at me from where I actually am. Kept a copy of my letter etc. of course.

I don't suppose it would be worth it in the interim to shoot them an email would it? Probably not.

If it was that easy to trace me via a CRA in the first place why the hell did anyone wait until now? I’m quite confused.

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Bit late unclebulgaria-sorry I didn't see your post,I was at the post office-I’m lucky enough to live in a part of town where they have a late night counter for sending stuff so I sent my letter & it should be with them in 1-2 days as I sent it via super swift trackable airmail. Yes,I did give them my address here. To be honest I’d rather take anything they throw at me from where I actually am. Kept a copy of my letter etc. of course.

I don't suppose it would be worth it in the interim to shoot them an email would it? Probably not.

If it was that easy to trace me via a CRA in the first place why the hell did anyone wait until now? I’m quite confused.

 

BCW are bottom feeders. I suspect that other companies have tried to make contact by letter, but these have been returned marked 'gone away'. Perhaps your credit record shows you as gone away.

 

Don't bother with an email. You have sent the letter and it is up to BCW to deal with it.

 

Tell your relative to return all future letters received back marked 'not at this address'. If they get any phone calls, then they should simply tell the person, you do not live at the address, wrong number. BCW can't do anything, so they should stop trying to make further contact.

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I don't think they've sent anything to my relative’s address so far as they would’ve told me about it. You're almost certainly right about the credit file being marked as such,but seeing as they would’ve been able to see it as a previous address,why wait so flippin’ long?

Anyway,I’ll certainly pass on that info. They'd tell anyone I didn't live there anyway as I haven't in donkeys years. I’d rather they knew for certain that I’m definitely not there now.

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They wait so long, because its a bad debt. THe previous creditor knows this, so sells it to another DCA, who hopes that you dont realise the debt is bad and make some kind of payment towards it. THis then allows them to come at you full pelt as you have acknowledged the debt.

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They could do, but theres absolutely nothing they could do to chase you or force you to pay anything. It sounds like they dont beleive you have moved abroad. However, thats not your concern, and honestly, i think you should do what has been advised throught this thread. Tell the people in the UK who are receiving the letters, to mark them not known at this address, and to return to sender.

 

Then ignore anything they try to say or post to you, and get on with your life. Once they know you aren't a pushover or a potential cash cow, theyll soon give up and harass someone else.

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I will do that. I hope they do get the message that I’m not there though. There’d be no record of me having been in the UK since 2002 anyway! Aargh.

How possible would it be to get any link on my credit file removed from that address out of interest? I don't want my mum to get into any unnecessary strife because of my actions. Yes I do know it's a bit late in the day for all this but still. She's not the sort to use credit & everything she has is all bought & paid for. I wish I’d learnt better by example :-(

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Addresses do not get blacklisted. Only people do. And after 6 years of no acknowledgement or payment, the debt is not enforceable by law, and you become "unblacklisted" in regards to that debt being attached to you.

 

 

As we have said all along, stop worrying, ignore them and get on with your life.

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Well,they got my letter anyway. Sent it super fast airmail with a signature needed on delivery & I was able to track all of this online. My only hope right now is that they'll at least update their records with my address. I know they have no reason to believe me but I could give them plenty of proof. Plus if they called my relative she'd give out my address anyway which surprise surprise would be exactly the same as the one I gave them.

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Well,they got my letter anyway. Sent it super fast airmail with a signature needed on delivery & I was able to track all of this online. My only hope right now is that they'll at least update their records with my address. I know they have no reason to believe me but I could give them plenty of proof. Plus if they called my relative she'd give out my address anyway which surprise surprise would be exactly the same as the one I gave them.

 

I doubt you will get a response. They will just go quiet. That was my experience. Perhaps they can't write letters.

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Well as I've said, if they have and it is more than six years old their right to take enforcement has expired under sec.24 of the Limitations Act. If it were under six years old you can apply to have it set-aside as you never received the original papers. This would then mean they cannot reapply in the UK for a CCJ as you are not a UK citizen, the only recourse they would have is to attempt to bring an action in Japan & that will not happen. ;)

 

You can set your mind at rest by checking to see whether there is a CCJ at http://www.trustonline.org.uk/ using your previous addresses... this would cost £4. If nothing is showing either there never was a CCJ or it has expired to all intents & purposes.

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I’d have to get a friend to help me out with that as I don't have any credit cards these days. Might get on to that this weekend. About the setting aside stuff,applying to have that done isn't always successful I presume. It might not work in my case because I didn't exactly tell them I was going anywhere :sad:

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I still do not understand why you are worrying over this? the debt/default/CCJ has expired and they cannot take any action. They are simply chancers pushing their luck and hoping you give in and pay them something, because they dont want to realise that theyve bough a bad debt.

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I know but I am a worryhead…my mind just thinks the worst. Sorry about that. Anyway as a latest development,my relative just told me they phoned her the other night asking if I lived there & she was "What?She’s been living on the other side of the world for the past xx years & hasn't lived at my address properly in at least xxx years!"Well.

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As i said, they are chancing their luck. The debt is unenforceable in law, but that wont stop them from trying to bully and harass someone into giving them money.

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Hi all. I’ve been laid up with a nasty cold since last weekend but I am going to enlist the help of my friend to

check that Trust online site this weekend just to put my mind at rest. I haven't heard anything back yet but you know how bad the post was recently so anything’s possible :x

In the meantime (and please don't tell me off for worrying again) I was wondering,just in case they do happen to be chasing up an existing CCJ, now they have my address do you think they'd respond to me by letter at my new address first before re-sending any court documents etc. to my relative’s address? I am definitely going to check once & for all over the weekend so I can take any steps if necessary but as you know I have no idea how this all works & my cold meds are addling my brains more than they usually do. Just want to be one step ahead if you know what I mean.

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They cant chase up the CCJ. You are no longer resident in the UK, and for them to challenge jurisdiction and gain enforcement orders after the amoutn of time that has passed, is impossible.

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Hi all. I’ve been laid up with a nasty cold since last weekend but I am going to enlist the help of my friend to

check that Trust online site this weekend just to put my mind at rest. I haven't heard anything back yet but you know how bad the post was recently so anything’s possible :x

In the meantime (and please don't tell me off for worrying again) I was wondering,just in case they do happen to be chasing up an existing CCJ, now they have my address do you think they'd respond to me by letter at my new address first before re-sending any court documents etc. to my relative’s address? I am definitely going to check once & for all over the weekend so I can take any steps if necessary but as you know I have no idea how this all works & my cold meds are addling my brains more than they usually do. Just want to be one step ahead if you know what I mean.

 

They won't bother with any of this. I bet you don't hear any more from the company chasing and they will just sell the debt on if they can. Just being cynical, but with a relatives debt who had gone abroad, the debt companies played pass the parcel for about 8 years, before they stopped bothering. I presume the debts are now written off and credit record noted as gone away.

 

No point stressing. If you don't hear anything, just tell your relative to return any future correspondence to the sender, with a note on the envelope that the addressee is not resident at the address. If you hear anything at your address in Japan, I would would fall off my chair. Do post back if you do.

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