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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
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A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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They claim they are memebers of CSA DBDG but nothing comes up on that website that they are members..

 

They chasing me for a debt, a chap spoke to my wife saying he is a solicitor told her everything about the debt, and said he was coming round that night to reposses goods if we didnt pay.

 

They then phoned again when my wife hung up, they rang 12 times in 10 minutes.

 

I am associated to a bigger company and this debt through organised through my name but for a voluntary subsidary of the larger company, they phoned them up telling them everything and threatening to go to the press.

 

So who are they ? :|

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Application / Licence Details

 

 

 

Licence Number:0625269

Licence Status:Current

 

Current Applicant / Licensee:

 

Business NameCompany Registration NumberCapital Credit Management Limited06801539

 

Categories:

 

Consumer credit Credit brokerage Debt collecting

 

Right To Canvass Off Trade Premises:No

 

 

Trading Name(s) (Current):

 

Capital Credit Management Capital Debt Solutions Capitalcm.Co.Uk Debtcollectors.Co.Uk Debtpurchase.Com

 

Issued Date: 03-Mar-2009

Date Maintenance Payment Due: 02-Mar-2014

 

 

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Body Corporate (incorporated inside UK)

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I've heard of these, been getting so much hassle from there 'solicitor', he was trying to pin a debt on me that I have no knowledge of, When I stated this he just shortly replied with ' thank you for confirming refusal to pay I will now process court papers'. I threatened to report him to which I then had a lengthy email stating he's only trying to work out facts.

 

They are full of crap, I told him the debt was not mine and I'd happily go to the police with a fraud claim, strangely he's gone quiet now!

 

They have a bad reputation have changed names a few times and been warned for their conduct, I would say to you that they will say anything they like to try and get money from you.

 

Give no details, confirm nothing, They can't come to your home and demand money, It's just horrid threats to try and scare you.

 

A shocking company who need to be reminded of how to conduct themselves.

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Here they are on the CSA site http://www.dbsg-uk.com/members-list/details/475/capital-credit-management-limited

 

Very little point in complaining to them about Crap/cred. Instead wtite to your local Trading Standards office especially the

breach of Data Protection Act divulging your info to another company as well as threatening to come round and remove goods.

 

They are a mickey mouse company who have no more power than a dead battery. They are not bailiffs so can do absolutely

nothing.

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Anyone know of these...

 

They claim they are memebers of CSA DBDG but nothing comes up on that website that they are members..

 

They chasing me for a debt, a chap spoke to my wife saying he is a solicitor told her everything about the debt, and said he was coming round that night to reposses goods if we didnt pay.

 

They then phoned again when my wife hung up, they rang 12 times in 10 minutes.

 

I am associated to a bigger company and this debt through organised through my name but for a voluntary subsidary of the larger company, they phoned them up telling them everything and threatening to go to the press.

 

So who are they ? :|

 

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I am also having a terrible time with them. Set up an arrangment back in May, but all they do is say they wont accept it and are still bombarding me with threatening emails about immediate court action. They told me they were sending debt collectors round to my house this weekend just gone, I waited in all day Sat and Sun to tell them to sling it, and nobody turned up. I then receive an email today telling me that there was nobody in when the collectors called. Their email also went on to say they will "send a field appointment officer to your home to discuss this account and conduct a pre-sue report"

 

Also I am with the CCCS, and it doesnt matter how many times ive told them that they need to talk to CCCS, they insist that they havent heard from CCCS and will only deal with me

 

Nasty, arrogant piece of work

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They are an absolute disgrace. I've been accused of having a debt for hundreds of pounds which is not mine. They use "fishing" techniques to find victims, they send letters to all the known people of a certain name in a certain area , claiming they owe money, then hope the "guilty" one phones in and pays the debt. They have no more power than what your paperboy has.

The company has changed name various times as they have been faced with losing their license due to breaches in their trading. Basically a bunch of cowboy bully's who will say anything to get money.

If you have any dealing with them and you are getting nowhere, immediately email the directors STaylor @capitalcm.co.uk and RHowlett @capitalcm.co.uk stating that you do not want to be contacted any way except email and you do not authorise any visit to your property.

If they break this, they are breaching their license, UNTIL they prove that you owe them money then they can contact all they want.

If they cannot or will not prove the debt is yours, simply ignore it. Of course if they continue to harass you, report them to the Office of Fair Trading. There is also a link on the national debt line website where you can get a template letter to send them, this will either stop them contacting you, or force them to give you proof of the debt. They will need this to ever get a penny out of you in a small claims court. Keep all evidence of abuse and harassment as this will go against them.

Of course of the debt is yours and you just won't pay it, they can and probably will take you to a small claims court where you will have to pay them the money either way, just with a lot more costs involved.

If you are paying them what you can afford, and they won't accept it, simply log on to their website and make manual card payments for what you can afford. They won't waste money taking you to court if your actually paying them, because they have no case - your paying the debt.

 

Everyone needs to get together if you have problems with these pathetic individuals. Without people's advise and help, the bully's will continue to wean money from people using scare tactics, even if you don't owe them a penny!!

 

If you do contact them by post, get every piece of mail recorded. My advice is use email, as mentioned above.

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Yes I do owe the money, and they have been offered £40 a month which in honesty is more than I can realistically afford, but they wont accept it. They wont deal with CCCS, and they wont stop writing to me telling me that they havent heard from me, theres no arrangement etc.

 

Well im fed up with it now. What do they hope to get by taking me to court? I dont own a house, I have no savings or money in bank account, I have no car and no other assets and I owe £40k.

 

I'm doing the best I can but thats all I can do. I really want to go to their head office and kick off

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They are an absolute disgrace. I've been accused of having a debt for hundreds of pounds which is not mine. They use "fishing" techniques to find victims, they send letters to all the known people of a certain name in a certain area, claiming they owe money, then hope the "guilty" one phones in and pays the debt. They have no more power than what your paperboy has.

The company has changed name various times as they have been faced with losing their license due to breaches in their trading. Basically a bunch of cowboy bully's who will say anything to get money.

If you have any dealing with them and you are getting nowhere, immediately email the directors STaylor @capitalcm.co.uk and RHowlett @capitalcm.co.uk stating that you do not want to be contacted any way except email and you do not authorise any visit to your property.

If they break this, they are breaching their license, UNTIL they prove that you owe them money then they can contact all they want.

If they cannot or will not prove the debt is yours, simply ignore it. Of course if they continue to harass you, report them to the Office of Fair Trading. There is also a link on the national debt line website where you can get a template letter to send them, this will either stop them contacting you, or force them to give you proof of the debt. They will need this to ever get a penny out of you in a small claims court. Keep all evidence of abuse and harassment as this will go against them.

Of course of the debt is yours and you just won't pay it, they can and probably will take you to a small claims court where you will have to pay them the money either way, just with a lot more costs involved.

If you are paying them what you can afford, and they won't accept it, simply log on to their website and make manual card payments for what you can afford. They won't waste money taking you to court if your actually paying them, because they have no case - your paying the debt.

 

Everyone needs to get together if you have problems with these pathetic individuals. Without people's advise and help, the bully's will continue to wean money from people using scare tactics, even if you don't owe them a penny!!

 

If you do contact them by post, get every piece of mail recorded. My advice is use email, as mentioned above.

 

Never make a manual payment like that to a DCA. Ever. Repayments are only to be made by giro or standing order. That way they cannot get your bank details.

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Never make a manual payment like that to a DCA. Ever. Repayments are only to be made by giro or standing order. That way they cannot get your bank details.

 

Very good point! Luckily I haven't made any payment as I don't owe them a thing, but when I've requested proof of the debt, they just threaten with court. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Very good point! Luckily I haven't made any payment as I don't owe them a thing, but when I've requested proof of the debt, they just threaten with court. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

Send them the prove it letter from the CAG library. If they keep contacting you without proof, then they are in for a world of trouble.

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Excellent advise from all. I received an email back as I quoted they have breached Data protection, and the CSA code of conduct, I think when you hit them with that thats when the attitude changes.. I not had a single phone call since..

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I agree. Through bitter experience I will never EVER give my debit card details to another of these companies ever again

 

Yes I have learned this from bitter experience don't do the manual debit card payment I did this and although the agreement was for one hundred pounds a month for five months this company (Edit) seven hundred and sixty pounds from my account and the bank could do nothing as I had given them my card details. Bigmistake but they had harassed me so much I just wanted them off my back.

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Never give your card details this company Edit) seven hundred pounds from my account as user ups continuous payment my bank couldn't do anything as I had give my card details

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I've recently had 2 separate letters chasing up 2 debts totalling just over £1000 that I know nothing about. The tone of the letters were incredibly threatening. Straight away I sent them a letter using the national debt line website template. It would appear that they have totally ignored this and have sent another letter even more threatening than the first. I know they received my letter as I sent it next day signed delivery. Should I phone them now stating that I need proof of debt? What do you guys recommend I do next? Thanks!

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Its best to start a new thread so we can keep all replies specific to the poster.

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