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    • Good evening, My husband and I are looking for some help regarding a faulty car which we have recently purchased from Big Motoring World Enfield. The details are as follows: - Make - Nissan Qashqai 2017 1.2L milage 55,349 miles.  Date purchased -   01/06/2024 Price paid - Deposit £9000, finance £4794 (this includes the 3yr Nissan extended warranty), buyers fee £249.      Total including all fees etc = £ 13794.        Initially, during the test drive, there was no problem with the car at all and this is why my husband bought the car on the day. No problems on the way home from the dealership and up to three days after purchase, the car drove smoothly. However, after day 4, occasionally we would feel a slight shudder during some gear changes (automatic car). Over the next few days these shudders worsened and then on day 5 the car would make very a very loud shudder with every single gear change. It was at this point we contacted Big Motoring World for advice as we are still under the 14 days no questions asked return.  My husband contacted BMW for advice on 06/06/2024 and stated the problems as above. He spoke to a sales person who informed him that he should only take the car to a Nissan dealership (we have now been told that this is false information). We were also promised that a courtesy car would be provided for us after the fault on the car had been identified and confirmed by their mechanic fixing the car. We took the car to the garage that Big Motoring World had told us to go. Upon arrival there we discovered it was a third-party garage, not Nissan. We took the car to the garage on day 9. The mechanic ran a diagnostic test which found no faults, but after the test drove the car and below are his findings...   we scan the car but no faults with the gearbox showing but when I test drove the car it was really juddering and jumping.I spoke to my auto transmission specialist and he said they are very common on these as the CVT belt starts jumping within the box due to pressure loss.  We had this vehicle in for diagnostics for gearbox mate but both the gearbox and battery are faulty.Gearbox supplied and fitted comes to £3500 plus vat   Where we are at now…. My husband spent all of day 10 (11/06/2024) making phone calls between the garage, Warranties2000 and Big Motoring World. He tried, unsuccessfully to find out if the diagnostic reports had been shared between all three. Everyone kept saying the report hadn’t been received and yet the garage assured us it had been sent. Eventually we were told that the courtesy car would be given to us if it was deemed the works to fix the car would take longer than 8 working hours, and that decision would be made after 48hours of receiving the report. Today is day 11 and no decision has been made as nobody is telling us any decisions as people are off sick or on holiday! Today we called the garage and told the mechanic NOT to start any work as we will be returning the car. He said none have been started and we have left the car in his storage as he has deemed the car undrivable. I have sent an email to BMW now formally stating that we want to return the car and I have used the terminology that was suggested.   What can we do next?   Thank you everyone. .  
    • Yes will do thanks Dave, I wonder what will happen at the preliminary hearing no idea what they will ask I assumed once I sent the proof they asked for about my sons condition that I would have just  been given the go ahead to be Litigation friend
    • First the judge will rule on you representing your son, which will be a doddle. After that the full hearing date will be fixed, with WSs exchanged 14 days before. So for the moment just concentrate on getting the right to represent your son.  
    • Thank you, the mediations in a couple of days so hopefully they show up this time. I'll update this thread after how it goes
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      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

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I had recently purchased my car from glasgow but i live in london and i did all the regular checks to ensure the person really did own the car..

 

I have the receipt of sale, the log book in my name, and have now recieved a letter from a company stating that the car is their legal property

and the previous owner should not have sold the car to me.

 

They have sent me a questionnaire?

 

I dont understand how this is possible as i saw those add on tv and sent a text to get the vehicle checked over

and it only showed the car as cat d and once i did this check i spoke to the seller and got the price reduced as it was not worth the price i was paying.

 

To be on the safe side i also took down his driving license number and took a copy of his license and also contacted dvla to confirm he was the owner of the car.

And the dvla confirmed on the phone that the vehicle was registered under this person.

 

I repeatedly asked that even on the phone and when we met in person if the car had any other records such as accidental or hpi and the seller said no, he owns the car.

 

What do i do now?

Do i send this questionnaire back?

 

I am thinking of going to my citizen advice burea on monday as i paid a lot of money and i dont want to lose it all as i have been also repairing the car my self

for over 2 months as it had quiet few problems.

 

It is still in my drive on jack stands..

 

. Please help!!

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If yuo bought the car in good faith then the finnce company are NOT the legal owners, you are: you will get good tite to the car.

 

You can fill in their questionaire if you want to but I'm certain yuo have no legal obligation to do so.

 

I would just send them a copy of the bill of sale together with a covering explanatory letter stating that yuo bought the car in good faith from Mr XXXX of XXX street, glasgow and that their argument is with him as he has committed fraud by selling it and you have done nothing wrong.

 

But relax, you WILL ultimately get good title to the car.

 

Thois phone checks where yuo text the reg etc are rubbish, that's why hPi is £30 and the text ones are £3.. you get what you pay for.

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Who is the name of the company?

 

I bought the car from scotland but this company address is from london, and their letter doesnt look professional. I think it says c collections, I tried looking them up on website and coming up as under construction

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OP.. no you did a text check which only shows stolen / written off etc, not finance.

 

If ther website is 'under construction' they sound like a mickey mouse outfit to me so I'd be wary about responding.

 

Its no good saynig yuo are the registered keeper, it says in BIG LETTERS on the V5 that the RK is not necessarily the legal owner.

 

If you bought the car in good faith then you own it and will ultimately get good title to it, period.

 

All I would send them is a copy of the sales receipt shownig that you bought the car from the person that owes the finance together with a covering letter stating that their argument is with him and not you and you would like clear legal title to the car as allowed under the law.

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OP.. no you did a text check which only shows stolen / written off etc, not finance.

 

If ther website is 'under construction' they sound like a mickey mouse outfit to me so I'd be wary about responding.

 

Its no good saynig yuo are the registered keeper, it says in BIG LETTERS on the V5 that the RK is not necessarily the legal owner.

 

If you bought the car in good faith then you own it and will ultimately get good title to it, period.

 

All I would send them is a copy of the sales receipt shownig that you bought the car from the person that owes the finance together with a covering letter stating that their argument is with him and not you and you would like clear legal title to the car as allowed under the law.

 

At the moment we are not sure if ti is a legit company or not. Could be that a logbook loan was taken out against the car by a previous owner. I wouldn't send them any info at present until I had established their credentials.

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OP.. no you did a text check which only shows stolen / written off etc, not finance.

 

If ther website is 'under construction' they sound like a mickey mouse outfit to me so I'd be wary about responding.

 

Its no good saynig yuo are the registered keeper, it says in BIG LETTERS on the V5 that the RK is not necessarily the legal owner.

 

If you bought the car in good faith then you own it and will ultimately get good title to it, period.

 

All I would send them is a copy of the sales receipt shownig that you bought the car from the person that owes the finance together with a covering letter stating that their argument is with him and not you and you would like clear legal title to the car as allowed under the law.

 

About ten yrs ago, I had the same problem, I lost the car and my money.

Has the law changed?

All I ask is to be treated fairly and lawfully.

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About ten yrs ago, I had the same problem, I lost the car and my money.

Has the law changed?

 

Nope. In your case it must have been either a 'log book loan' or the car was on a personal lease agreement and not an ordinary finance agreement.

 

With a logbook loan the company giving the loan take title to the car.

 

With a personal lease, title can never pass to the leasee unless/ until a balloon payment is made at the end of the lease. If title cannot pass, it cannot be assigned to someone else.

 

I know that in theory you are only a 'hirer' when the vehicle is subject to an HP agreement, but there is no doubt about it that as long as yuo buy the car in good faith and have a sales receipt etc from the seller then you will ultimately get good title to it.

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Rambo's comment is scaring me but with Oddjob's comments seems some hope. Do you think I should try contacting the number of the letter to establish and gain more details as it says the car has been passed to them from someone else? so maybe another company possibly passed info to them and they are trying to recover the cost. The letter is asking for the question answers to help them establish how someone managed to sell the car to me? or is that one of their tricks getting me to give them information

 

thank you everyone who is helping me, I appreciate your help

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I ve just done those proper hpi check and ye the car is showing as outstanding finance :( even though the letter seems dodgy .. i guess am definately gonna have to reply to their letter now somehow

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