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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
    • sorry she is a private individual, the cars are parking on her land. she can clamp the cars. only firms were outlawed from doing it bazza. thats what the victims of people dumping cars on their drives near airports did and they didn't not get prosecuted.    
    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later then your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place  park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and unload the children reloading the children getting seat belts on  driving to the exit stopping for cars pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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To all those people in a payday loan mess u will get out of it I was in such a mess finacially for 2 yrs and hid it from my family and I was so very stressed but with patience determination and finding this forum I have paid the lot off all in all totalling thousands of pounds and suffering panic attacks ...you can do this defo and with the help of myself and others on here ul get out of it .stay focused and positive and ul be payday loan free soon ...good luck I feel for u all

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Hi quackquack!

 

Massive well done to you for getting out of the mess!

 

I've still got a way to go. Most are now included in a debt management plan. Just paydayexpress now who are still refusing to help me.

 

I feel so much better though now with the majority of them accepting my repayment plans.

 

The help and support here has been amazing. Am glad I found this place.

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:jaw::-D:whoo:Hi I'm so pleased u are nearly sorted too I understand how u feel ,I was a fool I still cannot believe what I did taking out these loans I'm horrified how quickly it spiralled out of control and I kept it all to my self as I just couldn't tell my lovely husband what I had done so battled on on my own but iv never ever had so much determination in my whole life as I had in these past months to get myself out of this hole I was in I was so determined with a vengeance to pay tham all off and even now I cannot believe I have achieved it at long last ,I stil get butterflies and feel anxious in my stomach at the sheer thought I nearly lost or could have lost my home and the thought of that spurred me on even more that no shark would take from my family for what wed worked hard for and now no one ever will so anyone reading this learn by me and take the advice o these forums because u won't regret it and like me ul have sanity back ,learn from this stupid mistake and never venture down this road ever again and better still have money in the bank xxxx Edited by quackquack
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quackquack, now that you have paid thesse off, just how much of these debts were made up of unlawful charges?

Any charge they impose above what it actually cost them to administer these accounts are unlawful and can be reclaimed

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quackquack, now that you have paid thesse off, just how much of these debts were made up of unlawful charges?

Any charge they impose above what it actually cost them to administer these accounts are unlawful and can be reclaimed

 

 

Claimed back from who exactly? do you mean the process of going to somewhere like the Financial Ombudsman because that is the only way I see it

Happy to share my experience but for your own protection, please check and double check what myself and other Caggers inform

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Moneyclaimonline fee is starting at £25.00 to bring a formal claim under and anything up to £300

higher figures and the fee to submit will go up

See it that I've really done all I can now?

 

Good luck everybody out there stuggling, never give up hope or trying x

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