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    • I'm at work now but promise to look in later. Can you confirm how you paid the first invoice?  It wasn't your fault if the signal was so poor and there was no alternative way to pay.  There must be a chance of reversing the charge with your bank.  There are no guarantees but Kev  https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/09766749/officers  has never had the backbone to do court so far.  Not even in one case,  
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    • Thank you. Such a good point. They did issue all 3 before I paid though. I only paid one because I didn’t have proof of parking that time, only for two others.    Unfortunately no proof of my appeal as it was just submitted through a form on their website and no copy was sent to me. I only have the reply. I believe I just put something like “we made the honest mistake of using the incorrect parking area on the app” and that’s it. Thanks again for your help. 
    • They are absolute chuckleheads. You paid but because you entered a different car park site also belonging to them they are pursuing you despite them knowing what you had done. It would be very obvious to everyone, including Alliance that your car could not have been in two places at the same time. Thank you for posting the PCN so quickly making it a pity that you appealed since there are so many things wrong with it that you as keeper are not liable to pay the charge. They rarely accept appeals since that would mean they lose money but they have virtually no chance of beating you in Court. Very unlikely that they will take you to Court given the circumstances. Just in case you didn't out yourself as the driver could you please post up your appeal.
    • Jasowter I hope that common sense prevails with Iceland and the whole matter can be successfully ended. I would perhaps not have used a spell checker just to prove the dyslexia 🙂 though it may have made it more difficult to read. I noticed that you haven't uploaded the original PCN .Might not be necessary if the nes from Iceland is good. Otherwise perhaps you could get your son to do it by following the upload instructions so that we can appeal again with the extra ammunition provided by the PCN. Most of them rarely manage to get the wording right which means that you as the keeper are not liable to pay the charge-only the driver is and they do not know the name and address of the driver. So that would put you both in the clear if the PCN is non compliant.
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Can anyone help please? I recently called a nursery to see if they had any available space. I was asked to pay 50 registation fee, which i did. I received a response from the nursery asking for a month's payment in advance to secure the place.

 

I refused to pay this, as all this was happeing over the phone as i was relocating from one part of the Uk to another and at this point was basing my decision to go with this nursery on ofstead report and proximity to where i will be living. I needed to see the nursey myself, which would be about 2months later when we re-allocated. The nursery said, this meant they cannot guarantee the place and i was ok with that.

 

The nursery also requires a 3 days settling-in period / trial period for the child. When i arrived on my Son's first settling in day, i was asked to pay a months notice before settling-in can commence and fill and sign a bunch of form, over 20 forms. I sincerely didn't pay too much attention of the forms as there were a lot of them.

 

I gave them a cheque, but on both my son's first and second day, he was extremely unhappy, which was unlike him, considering he has been going to nursery and different childcare places for over 2yrs. I also noticed on his first day (i had to spend an hr there as he wouldn't settle), cases of kids smacking eachother not been handled well and the garden area seems unchild friendly and a few other things that made me unconfortable. The mere mention of nursery time got my son screaming, this was odd as he normally enjoyed nursery a lot.

 

After day2 of settling-in, I immediately notified the nursery that as his settling-in hasn't gone so well, that he will not be starting the next day as scheduled. Only to be told that i will need to pay a six week payment (1312 pounds). I immediately cancelled the cheque and asked them to bill me for the settling-in days instead . They refused and are still chasing for payment and threaten to take it to court.

 

Any advice will be appreciated, where do i stand legally?

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Have you fully read their t & c and are there things in there that you would consider 'unfair' if so, then you should have a read of the The Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999

 

Keep in mind that a contract breach can only result in a claim for damages so they cannot profit from a breach. If they claim you have breached the terms of the contract, they will have to show how they have come to the amount they are claiming you have to pay and that they are not a penalty charge which is not allowed.

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What was the pusrpose of the "settling in " period and what do their terms and conditions say about a situation where children fail to settle in? Could it be that the "Settling in" period was in fact a "trial period" in everything but name?

 

I think as well as the The Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 , perhaps also the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 applies here as you could reasonably argue that you understood it to be a trial period and what they are saying is actually misleading.

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Could it be that the "Settling in" period was in fact a "trial period" in everything but name?

 

 

Fully agree

 

Only to be told that i will need to pay a six week payment (1312 pounds).

 

I think they are either trying it on or have been ill advised.

 

Don't give in to their court blackmail and keep us informed of any further correspondence.

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I don't have any copy of their terms and conditions. It may well have been on the heaps of forms i signed on the first settling-in day. Is there any way i can legally request for copies of those forms? If so, would my request be in form of a subject access request? Will they be legally bound to supply me with this information?

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