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Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate 4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:- a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement  number xxxxxx. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     The total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by First class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges 5.  At the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage. Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024  What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg  
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
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Hi There,

 

I am new here so please bear with me!

 

I recently moved in with my Girlfriend who due to a lack of support from her ex husband is struggling under a mountain of debt both credit cards from the time they were together and council tax arrears.

 

Today a bailiff has turned up on the doorstep demand full payment of an outstanding council tax debt. I knew about this but was very surprised as to how indiscrete the bailiff was. He offered no indentification and did not enquire as to who I was but handed me a removal notice and informed me that the opportunity to pay in installments has passed and my girlfriend needs to pay £570 immeadiately this is on top of the £1000 she paid in august for a debt of around £1300.

 

Has the bailiff given my girlfriend grounds for complaint due to discussing her account with me? We are willing to settle the debt but would rather do so directly with the council and not incur further charges with this firm of bailiffs.

 

My girlfriend is obviously angry and embarrassed about today and is willing to pay but with xmas right upon us would rather spread the payments.

 

Many thanks

 

Concerned boyfriend

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could you give us some details about the debt bailiff is chasing first thing is you dont have to pay them you can pay council direct (regardless of what council say) using online/telephone payment system. also pay a regular amount (say £10 a month as you have paid majority of it) what we need to see is the charges the bailiff has put on, I'm thinking he may be overcharging. once we get council tax sorted also has the bailiff got a walking possession? if not what was he doing handing a removal notice? we can look at other debts too. but lets get bailiffs sorted first.

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Hi Padja, thanks for the swift response.

 

The debt is for unpaid council tax from this year.

The bailiff claimed he has a walking possession but this is definitely not the case as they have not been into her house.

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Hi Padja, thanks for the swift response.

 

The debt is for unpaid council tax from this year.

The bailiff claimed he has a walking possession but this is definitely not the case as they have not been into her house.

 

In which case you don't have to let them in, keep him out and make sure there is no car or other vehicle around he can levy. If he turns up film him with a mobile phone even as he will try to lie cheat and bully his way in

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As has been said ....pay the Council online at a rate that is affordable and sustainable to your circumstances, you must ensure these payments are made on the same day/date every week/month. Meanwhile you need to gather further information from both Council and Bailiff's, the latter is adept at lying so you must contact the Council with the following the questions. Below this is a template to obtain info from the Bailiff, which will show if the charges applied to your account are legally allowed or simply what the bailiff hopes you will cough up without question.

 

1 - how many Liability Orders there are

2 - the dates they were obtained

3 - the address(es) they relate to

4 - the period(s) of time they cover

5 - how much each one is for

6 - how much is outstanding on each

7 - the names the Liability Orders are in

8 - the date(s) they were passed for enforcement

 

 

"From:

My Name

My Address

 

To:

Acme Bailiff Co

Bailiff House

 

Ref: Account No: 123456

 

Dear Sir

 

With reference to the above account, Can you please provide me with a breakdown of the charges.

 

This includes:

a - the time & date of any Bailiff action that incurred a Fee.

b - the reason for the fee.

c - the name(s) of the Bailiff(s) that attended on each occasion a Fee was charged.

d - the name(s) of the Court(s) the Bailiff(s) was/were certificated at.

e - the date of the Certification.

 

This is not a Subject access request under the Data Protection Act S7 1998 so does not incur a fee of £10. You are obliged to provide this information.

 

I require this information within 14 days.

 

Yours faithfully

 

Ripped off customer"

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Hi concerned

 

Would you be described as a 'Vulnerable Person',

 

List of vulnerable persons it is part of The nation standards of Enforcement agents 2002

NATIONAL STANDARDS FOR ENFORCEMENT AGENTS MAY 2002

 

Those who might be potentially vulnerable include:

  • the elderly;
  • people with a disability;
  • the seriously ill;
  • the recently bereaved;
  • single parent families;
  • pregnant women;
  • unemployed people; and,
  • those who have obvious difficulty in understanding, speaking or reading English

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when you have the details of the charges post them back on here, Its not unheard of for bailiff to do levy by guessing whats in property (DVD player, TV, Microwave, etc or he may have looked through window) as long as theres no signature then he can whistle. You will have to pay some bailiff fees but they are set out by law and certainly the last thing you pay also worth checking with council how much they have received from bailiff I suspect not as much as has been paid out to bailiffs.

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Bailiff back again today.

 

Girlfriend at work, left a letter entitiled - NOTICE TO SEIZE GOODS

 

It threatens attendence with removal porters, using a locksmith if we are not in and charmingly Application for your committal to prison. All unless account settled in 24 hours.

 

Are these just empty threats??

 

They have no walking possession agreement if they return can I forceably remove them from the property as I strongly object to this aggressive action and bullying approach.

 

Advice appreciated as I am furious with this approach

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Bailiff back again today.

 

Girlfriend at work, left a letter entitiled - NOTICE TO SEIZE GOODS

 

It threatens attendence with removal porters, using a locksmith if we are not in and charmingly Application for your committal to prison. All unless account settled in 24 hours.

 

Are these just empty threats??

 

They have no walking possession agreement if they return can I forceably remove them from the property as I strongly object to this aggressive action and bullying approach.

 

Advice appreciated as I am furious with this approach

 

The bailiffs have no levy, they haven't had peaceful entry, so they are empty threats. You don't have to let them in, but keep any motor away out of sight, they cannot at this stage commit anyone to prison, bring police to arrest you, locksmiths to break in in your absence.

 

They CAN however list garden furniture etc and levy it, so keep all outside furniture locked away, or will try to levy a random motor parked nearby to try to enable attendance and van fees later.

 

If they turn up whilst you are in try to film them even with the video facility on a mobile phone to record their threats, DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES let them in, for that cosy chat to sort out a payment arrangement.

 

You could pay direct to the council using their online system, and add £42.50 of lawful fees to the amount, at a rate affordable to yourselves but do it regularly on the same day to build up a payment record. tell the council you are doing this. and keep the bailiff out, there is no law that states you must deal with them.

 

Others will no doubt advise further

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who is the bailiff company? dont name the bailiff.

 

If a Levy has been made then the bailiff has to leave a notice on the goods that have been restrained. If he has not done this then all he can charge is for two visits £42.50.

Pay what ever you owe to the council via their on line payment facility. In form the council that this is what you have done. Also state to the council that the bailiff has made no levy and all that is outstanding are two fees, make sure you add these when you make payment.

 

Dont let the bailiffs in, make sure all cars are moved away from the house and there is nothing in the garden he can levy on.

He cannot come back with a lock smith or the police.

 

As for discussing the matter with you is certainly not allowed.

 

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/613/regulation/45/made

 

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1988/2050/article/12/made

 

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1988/2050/article/10/made

 

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http://www.dca.gov.uk/enforcement/agents02.htm#part7

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As your GF is the named debtor and debt predates your relationship, any discussion with you giving details is a breach of data protection, and I would be informing the data protection Commissioner of the breach.

 

Which bailiff firm is this?

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As your GF is the named debtor and debt predates your relationship, any discussion with you giving details is a breach of data protection, and I would be informing the data protection Commissioner of the breach.

 

Which bailiff firm is this?

 

Thanks again, I did wonder about data protection, the firm is Jacobs

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Thanks again, I did wonder about data protection, the firm is Jacobs

 

Say no more, one of theirs approached me at random when I was on the phone in a motor parked opposite an address they were "visiting"

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