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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Hi People,

 

A quick question.

 

I work for an recruitment company which is based in Bradford. They are my employer and pay my wages and obviously take a cut of my wages each week. I live in Leeds and have a round trip of 32 miles to "Morrison's" in a Village called Flaxby ,where I work as a Fork lift truck driver.

 

I am currently paying a £40 minimum in petrol a week, and have kept petrol receipts for the last 4 months.

 

My question is, Can I reclaim expenses from the agency ( my employer ) or the government? Sorry if this question has been asked before, as I am new around these parts.

 

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I doubt it but I don't have sufficient knowledge in umbrella companies to say for definate. I'm sure any payment would have had to have been agreed in advance.

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I have worked on jobs where fellow colleagues have worked for umbrella companies and they manged to claim petrol expenses back through said companies. So I am assuming you must be able to claim back tax etc...

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A round trip of 32 miles? Hate to sound harsh but I am doing a round trip of +70 miles per day during the week. Being pushed pass £50 per week for fuel. The best I have got from the agency is a rate of 10p per hour from the rate they were offering for a normal worker. I would love to have a forklift license tbh be on a ever higher rate. 8-)

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You can only reclaim mileage if the agency send you to separate places of work on a regular basis, so if you were working at several sites then you would be able to reclaim mileage between sites, but not for the mileage to your normal place of work. If you are on a long term placement then the location of the site would be classed as the 'normal' or 'permanent' place of work and you cannot claim expenses.

 

Some Umbrella companies will claim that you are permitted relief for the journey to and from the place of employment, but this is only valid for multi-site or short term placements in between periods of regular work, and HMRC will inevitably catch up with, and charge back cases where this happens with long-term placements.

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yeah,the agencies can arrange to pay you through an umbrella company,the umbrella company i use is called fairgate construction,they handle wages for a lot of agencies,they deduct 18 pounds a week from your wage and you get tax relief on that,you fill form in for petrol help also you get 5pounds a day food allowance if its less than 10 hours,10 pounds a day if more than 10 hours they also arrange 3pounds a day laundry its all legal but ya need an umbrella company to do the paperwork,I get 10 pounds an hour as well so it aint too bad

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Be very careful. This is all only relevant if you would normally be self-employed and would be able to file these expenses as essential in the course of your business. Meals can only be claimed as a necessary business expense, not claimed automatically, and the amount claimed HAS to be spent on a meal - therefore it A) must be an allowable expense, and B) the claim must be for the exact amount spent. Similarly, and mileage claimed must be allowable, ie only claimed for trips over and above those made to the normal workplace.

 

Many umbrella companies have previously been able to use a 'dispensation' from HMRC in claiming such expenses as 'allowable', however due to abuses of the type that are being discussed here (reclaiming mileage for what would be 'commuting' for everybody else, and claiming relief for meals which the worker would have eaten or had to pay for in any case ), HMRC have already announced that they intend to revoke the special dispensation afforded to Umbrella Companies and in future, such claims will require receipted evidence and will be subject to the same scrutiny as for other tax affairs. The consequences for Umbrella Companies are likely to be severe, and particular where the revocation could be made retrospective, there will be some hefty tax bills involved.

 

For most people travel to work is a necessary and expensive affair, and commuting to a normal place of work has never been tax-deductable - people instead have to consider either moving or changing jobs if the cost is not affordable. Mileage required over and above the 'norm' is subject to tax relief, but only in certain circumstances. Similarly, most people either buy lunch and have to pay for it, or take a packed lunch, but again it is reasonable that if you are required to work over and above what is normal, or have to entertain clients, that relief can be given in certain circumstances.

 

What is being discussed here is bordering on tax evasion....

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Sorry I disagree,

 

I have never avoided paying tax and never would. Just trying to find out what I can / cannot claim back in which ever manner. Seems like I have the answers I was looking for.

 

Any tips on Working Tax credits sidewinder. I.e At what threshold of annual wage can you stop claiming?

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Sorry - I was not intending to point the finger at anybody and I certainly wasn't labelling you as a tax dodger! Believe you me, if I could find a way to reclaim tax on my private mileage I would have done so like a shot! Umbrella Companies crop up from time to time on the forum for various reasons, and whilst some people think they are the bees knees, there are an equal number of horror stories.

 

WTC is way too complicated to explain in simple terms - the best thing you can do is to use the Calculator which can be found here http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/TaxCredits/Paymentsandentitlement/entitlement/DG_181270

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personally I think you are better being selfemployed these days,you could cut the agency out by approaching potential employers yourself,agencies obviously charge a few quid more than they pay the workers,thats how they make their money,if you were selfemployed you could probably get a pound or more an hour and claim your fuel receipts as tax deductable also any other costs,overalls,gloves,boots etc that you could justify

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Sidewinder,

 

No problems my fellow forum poster.

 

Did not think you was pointing any fingers, I did say several posts earlier that I had my answer.

 

Working Tax credits is complicated I know, and have fillled the relevant forms. Was just asking broadly, for any possible advice.

 

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Hi,

 

I have just started work for a new agency in Leeds and there payroll department is paying me through an umbrella company.

 

I had to fill out an expenses form, which included my daily petrol and food costs. This totaled £87.19....

 

I will cut and paste the explanation of how their system works, and show you my payslip.... could someone please explain why I am paying so little tax, NI etc. And if it is Legal?

 

Here is there explanation :-

 

 

First of all, we are an umbrella company and we pay temporary workers on behalf of their recruitment agencies.

As an umbrella company we are able to claim expenses on behalf of temporary workers and offset these against their gross pay in order to reduce their tax and NI payments. Please note that the expenses part on your payslip becomes a non-taxable part of your gross and these are not directly reimbursed to the temporary worker. Only tax saving made on this part of wage being protected from being taxed will get added to the net pay to increase it .These expenses include travel to and from work, a food allowance and other expenses incurred due to the nature of temporary work.* Your meal allowances are based on your hours worked each week.* Any other additional expense incurred by you to carry out your role may be taken into consideration, however, please check with the Customer Service team at Legal-e who will advise you accordingly as you will be required to keep receipts for these.

 

The purpose of an umbrella company is to allow the worker to come home with a higher weekly wage than the standard PAYE system. From the savings made in the tax and NI payments Legal-E put some of this money back into the workers pay to make them better off.

 

 

* Only temporary workers can take advantage of this scheme as permanent employees are not allowed to receive additional tax free allowance in the form of expenses. This means that through Legal-E you are not taxed on your whole gross salary, instead you are taxed on only your taxable income and because of this we must lay out your pay slip in a particular way. To calculate your net pay you will need to look at your taxable amount only deduct NI and tax, then add your expenses equals your net pay.

 

 

 

You can easily check how much better off you are each week from questioned dates by using

Just enter your weekly gross, insert in Gross Income Every 52 weeks, and tick 1 week in Wage Breakdown, enter your correct tax code and calculate.

 

It is not PAYE system so the rules of this system do not apply here.

When it comes to the final figure on the P60 –it sums up all the taxable earnings and not a gross figure as the gross has still got expenses un-deducted from it as they are tax free.

 

 

Here is the payslip break down :-

 

 

Hours = 40.25

Rate = 6.50

Amount = 261.63

 

DEDUCTIONS

 

Tax = 0.25

Employee's Ni = 0.72

 

 

BREAKDOWN

 

Gross pay = 261.62

salary Gross = 261.62

Taxable = 145.00

 

Less

 

Tax = 0.25

NI = 0.72

 

add EXPENSES = 87.19

 

NON-Taxable = 116.61

less

Holiday Accrual = 29.42

 

 

NET PAY = 231.22

 

Hope the payslip details make sense, I could not cut and paste the PDF document, but have typed all relevant details...

 

Hope you can shed some light on this.. I am better off, but need to know if I will owe the tax man?

 

Many Thanks

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Hello there. This does sound odd if you don't understand umbrella companies, which I don't either.

 

You might want to post on the Employment forum here as well, because in the past we've heard from people who understand all this.

 

My best, HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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