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    • so return of goods order etc etc read upload  scan pages to jpg, redact in mspaint. the convert to and merge to one mass PDF  read upload and use the online listed sites for all 3 stages. do you want to keep the car? i will guess this was a manual paper claimform direct from the co.court or was it org sent from salford bulk processing and has just got reaq ssigned?      
    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue –  29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM 1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached  2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00. The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month. 3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement, Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us. Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement 9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate 4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:- a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement  number xxxxxx. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     The total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by First class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges 5.  At the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage. Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024  What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg  
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
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The old Brigs' been doing a bit of squirreling:spy: (secret) in reference to the much lauded highly respected:lol: CREDIT SCORE.

 

Hence the title: A CRA could be any one allegedly state your xxxx Credit Score is NOT Visilbe to any one other than YOU

The credit score is THE OPINION OF XXXX of the ability to obtain credit.

 

Scores are Calculated using the following factors.

*Conduct of Existing ACCOUNTS

*Amount of AVAILABLE credit

* DEFAULTED accounts

*The NUMBER of CREDIT APPLICATION SEARCHES

* PUBLIC RECORDS

The data is used by companies with other factors to generate their own credit score.

A poor score is not defamatory.

 

One of major problems I now see is that THE NUMBER OF CREDIT SEARCHES MAY INCLUDE SEARCHES MADE BY DCA's tagging their searches as OUTSTANDING DEBT? DEBT COLLECTION AS WE SEE From one major CRA's.

 

The question I now pose is ARE THEY WORTH IT AND DO WE NEED THEM Brig. ends rant:madgrin:)

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IMO they are not worth it and are just another money making vehicle for the CRA's. I got my score because I first thought it might be a useful tool in my quest to clean up my credit history but I recently received a credit increase from my MasterCard provider. Shortly after I received an email telling me my credit score had changed. Thinking this was nothing but good news I ordered my new credit score and was amazed to find that my score had dropped my a massive 30 points (840 Fine to 810 Fine). I contacted the CRA and was told that the drop was due to my having more available credit (a bad thing apparently) and whilst they wouldn't refund me they did promise to look at the trigger point for sending notification of score change, gee thanks :mad2:

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It occurred to me that very few people are aware of the mechanics of the mythical '' Credit Score''

that no one else sees, as you have said Lostatsea you believed being granted MORE credit would benefit

your '' SCORE' not reduce it.:madgrin:

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My credit Score is 999, my good lady's is 940. Both in reasonably well-paid jobs. Nationwide turned us down for a new mortage even though a single payment has never been missed anywhere.

 

Frustrating!

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My credit Score is 999, my good lady's is 940. Both in reasonably well-paid jobs. Nationwide turned us down for a new mortage even though a single payment has never been missed anywhere.

 

Frustrating!

 

Hi, sequenci,

 

I am about to go on another crusade on the uselessness of CRA credit scores, you have just posted the kind of response

I believe will be typical of many many peoples' experience, the more I get the bigger the protest:madgrin:

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I think we have a vicious circle NO Credit = Need Credit =but have no credit = can't have credit>have credit, get credit limit increase unasked for = lowered credit score and it just goes on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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That is the whole point of the thread!!

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I''ll do it for a fee!!!! (big one of course). I agree wholly:madgrin:

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DS has 4 defaulted accounts going back to 2006 all 4 are registered on the 3 main CRAs.

 

I have £10K available credit and zero owing on that available credit.

 

Exqueerian score.....900 (good)

Equitw*ts score.......240 (beyond bad)

Cruelcrudit score.....540 (fair)

 

Make any sense of that?

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Hi, DS that is why I started the thread after the info passed to me

about credit scoring by lenders etc.

I intend with permission from those who post to the thread to make this part

of the project I am feeding to my MP on the ''credit industry''.

To me it all seem senseless there will of course me no personal data

shown when I write up the project.

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i'm gonna pm you a link

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Thanks DS, will have a good read through that:madgrin:

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Last time I checked my score was 349 with Experian, I have every Tom, Dick & Harry offering me loans & credit cards. I've had a look at my report on Equifax but never checked the score.

 

I no longer check my credit reports, as I got no interest in credit. At one time I would of had a loan, car finance, credit card etc but too many problems now.

 

I'm now at a point in life that if I can't afford to buy something straight out then I don't want it... or I'll save up for it.

Have £20k+ in debt, seriously want to be debt free, currently in temporary accomodation and having business problems.

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Well said. I do have a low limit card just in case of emergencies all else

is cash or don't buy

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its not just about credit though. its also baout identity theft and checking yuor reports often is a useful way to see what's not, hopefully, going on.

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Totally agree on that the CIFAS/ Gone Away/ Public information & searches are of value,

but the credit scoring is pathetically useless, and may give individuals false confidence on their

ability to obtain credit an vice versa.

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I'm in the same boat as whatalife. I haven't a clue what my credit score is. I don't want to know cos I don't want credit. I don't have credit and never will. Been there and done it, never again. I have not bad debts in the last 5 years but I've also no credit history so would guess I'll have a minus score but it means naff all to me. If I check it I'll have an even bigger minus.

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I would have a check if only once a year just for any ID theft or links made.

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On a point raised previously: It is correct that finance companies don't use the credit score shown on your report (and as pointed out, they don't see it anyway).

 

All finance companies however DO use their own scoring system, usually intergrated into their computer systems. In fact although they may well tinker with the system to suit their own circumstances, most actually just buy the scoring softwear from someone like experian.

 

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The CRAs need regulating, and WE need to be able to access OUR OWN DATA without charge, and without penalty (ie deduction of points) for doing so.

 

As far as searches go these should NOT impact our scores as quite often we have NOT authorised the searching company, implied or otherwise to do a search 'just because they can'.

 

The whole CRA scene (including the so called Credit Expert) is rotten, as is the so-called 'industry' it serves.

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