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    • statute barring in Scotland is 5yrs from last payment/use date or date of default Notice + 14 days, whichever is the later. dont confuse that with the 6yrs debts show on credit files (DN's 6th bday regardless to payment or not). they'd never get a claim raised by august in 99% of cases . as long all these debts were taken out whilst resident in scotland and you have not moved since taking them out but failed to inform the original creditor before the debt sale....... then stay radio silent until sb date is reached. then if you wish send our scottish sb letter. just remember unlike E&W in scotland debts are extinguished, dead , gone , parrot. once SB'd dx  
    • Hi all, Love this site and it's no nonsense advice, have dipped in and out of the consumer forums over the years, mostly to assure myself that what I was doing was the right thing when dealing with various businesses (almost 100% success rate, thanks in part to reading and more reading here.). Anyway, the time is almost approaching where I might need to ask for some specific help and I have a couple of queries that I can't see definitively answered. Due to financial mismanagement and severe anxiety issues I stopped paying all unsecured debt in December 2018 (one slipped to the first week in Jan 2019 when the last payment was made having rechecked my bank statement from that period - all my unsecured debt direct debits were cancelled in early Jan 2019). This has left half a dozen debts;  a couple of credit cards, a bank loan, Shop Direct and some Hitachi Finance stuff having been sold on and passing the rounds through the usual suspects, Lowells, Link, PRA Group, others related to them, and then back to them again. I have somehow successfully managed to maintain radio silence and avoided anything more worrying than their begging letters.  I have blocked their phone calls and texts, bumped all emails to the spambox and had a chuckle at their desperate letters.  I've never had anybody at the door.  I have been at the same address since before I defaulted and all correspondence comes to my current home address.  I have NEVER contacted them or admitted any debt. In anticipation of them perhaps ramping up action at the last minute I've had a look at my credit report on Credit Karma (rec'd from this very place) and I see that the default dates on these range from May 2019 to November 2019. Also in preperation I've been reading, reading and reading lots here as advised. Obviously being in Scotland there are a lot fewer posts relating to these matters and it's always quite annoying when OP's do not follow up with any outcome on their cases - how rude! This has also left me a bit confused of when I am able to finally breathe easy (although cancelling all the direct debits in Jan 2019 was the biggest sigh of relief as I knew it was all going to be unmanageable and, well, default one, default all.). I've been reading that defaults should be filed 3-6 months after the missed payment but one of my larger debts was defaulted on 27th August 2019 when the last payment I made was 10th December 2018, meaning the first missed payment was 10th Jan 2019.   My query for now is - when should I infer that these debts are prescribed?  From when the payment was missed, or taking the default date plus 5 years from the credit report? The three I have with the May date are moot anyway as either way they are gone  - some letters from Lowell offering me 90% off to settle is what got me thinking these must have been near SB status, however I have one big 10k+ with a July date and another 10k+ at the end of August I am feeling a bit anxious again, even though I know there is nothing to worry about with the begging letters.  Reading the various forums I am not sure why the OC's didn't take action against me when I read time and again the surprise that other posters haven't already been taken to court for lesser amounts - I'm also surprised I've avoided any action this long as there are plenty in this forum and sub forum who are whisked off to the court by the beggers minions after only a year or so after defaulting.  There are no CCJ/decrees listed on my credit report and I have not received any such judgements against me.  I still just regularly receive the begging emails to the spambox, the blocked phone calls and the letters from the they. I'm also reading that there is no need in Scotland to send an LBC so what should I be looking out for to know that the time has come to engage with CCA requests etc? I'm afraid in a fit I threw a lot of the paperwork out but I have a box of stuff I'm going to go through which may have the original letters from the OC's. Thanks in advance for any advice.  
    • I'm at work now but promise to look in later. Can you confirm how you paid the first invoice?  It wasn't your fault if the signal was so poor and there was no alternative way to pay.  There must be a chance of reversing the charge with your bank.  There are no guarantees but Kev  https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/09766749/officers  has never had the backbone to do court so far.  Not even in one case,  
    • OK  so you may not have outed yourself if you said "we". No matter either way you paid. Snotty letter I am surprised that they were so quick off the mark threatening Court. They usually take months to go that far. No doubt that as you paid the first one they decided to strike quickly and scare you into paying. Dear Chuckleheads  aka Alliance,  I am replying to your LOCs You may have caught me the first time but that is  the end. What a nasty organisation you are. You do realise that you now have now no reason to continue to pursue me after reading my appeal since you know that my car was not cloned. Any further pursuit will end up with a complaint to the ICO that you are breaching my GDPR.  Please confirm that you have removed my details from your records. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I haven't gone for a snotty letter this time as they know that you paid for your car in another car park. So using a shot across their bows .  If it doesn't deter them and they send in the debt collectors or the Court you will then be able to get more money back from them for  breachi.ng your data protection than they will get should they win in Court-and they have no chance of that as you have paid. So go in with guns blazing and they might see sense.  Although never underestimate how stupid they are. Or greedy.
    • Thank you. Such a good point. They did issue all 3 before I paid though. I only paid one because I didn’t have proof of parking that time, only for two others.    Unfortunately no proof of my appeal as it was just submitted through a form on their website and no copy was sent to me. I only have the reply. I believe I just put something like “we made the honest mistake of using the incorrect parking area on the app” and that’s it. Thanks again for your help. 
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I was on Ingeus for a few months earlier in the year and they kept hassling me to go to mock interviews and teambuilding days and stuff. I then went on ESA due to surgery and when I went back on Jobseekers in August, I was told I'd be referred to Ingeus again. I didn't hear anything from them at all and then I signed off Jobseekers a few weeks ago because I'd started a Christmas job at a shop and now suddenly Ingeus are constantly phoning the house and emailing and texting me! :mad2: They want to know the name and phone number of my manager and are asking me if I need any help with funding for the job? Eh?

 

Why can't they just bloody leave me alone!

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would you need a doctors note if you fill out a JSA 28 for 2 weeks because the WP is making you ill?

 

No. Only if you claim ESA.

 

I don't know your friends situation; but he may be better off claiming ESA, if the WP is making him that ill?

 

Surely the WP isn't that bad it makes you ill?

 

It made me very ill. Got fed up in the end of being called a liar and generally treated like ****.

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No. Only if you claim ESA.

 

I don't know your friends situation; but he may be better off claiming ESA, if the WP is making him that ill?

 

 

 

It made me very ill. Got fed up in the end of being called a liar and generally treated like ****.

 

 

he suffers from anxiety and the WP is making it worse, he comes back from ingeus sometimes feeling so depressed plus all the stress and worrying is giving him headaches :(

 

he was due to see his advisor yesterday but couldn't go as he was feeling unwell, he has since filled out a JSA 28 dated from yesterday to 2 weeks time.

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does the jobcentre inform ingeus when someone has submitted a JSA 28?

 

No, probably not. Your friend should contact Ingeus direct and inform them of the situation.

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No, probably not. Your friend should contact Ingeus direct and inform them of the situation.

 

well ive told him that if he gets any texts from his advisor about another appointment he should tell them he has submitted a JSA 28, i can't believe the lack of communication between the jobcentre and WP providers :O

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well ive told him that if he gets any texts from his advisor about another appointment he should tell them he has submitted a JSA 28, i can't believe the lack of communication between the jobcentre and WP providers :O

 

The details of the JSA28 should be available on LMS which the WP has access to and should check before issuing a doubt. Don't assume they will though, tell your friend to inform them himself as well.

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The details of the JSA28 should be available on LMS which the WP has access to and should check before issuing a doubt. Don't assume they will though, tell your friend to inform them himself as well.

 

The WP has access to LMS? That I did not know.

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The WP has access to LMS? That I did not know.

 

 

Yep, and being armed with this knowledge has given me plenty of ammunition in my ongoing battle with Work Programme provider Seetec's vendetta against me which has culminated in my receiving an illegal sanction doubt leading to an illegal sanction.

 

The sh1tstorm that's about to descend on Seetec and some of it's staff may well result in tears.

 

So far I have my MP, JCP's Regional Director for East London, JCP's ESA advisor, and JCP's Work Programme liaison officer in my corner.

 

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges

 

Being poor is like being a Pelican. No matter where you look, all you see is a large bill.

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The details of the JSA28 should be available on LMS which the WP has access to and should check before issuing a doubt. Don't assume they will though, tell your friend to inform them himself as well.

 

 

i have and he wants to know if he can't contact his advisor via email?

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Okay I posted this another day but I have an update. I was with Ingeus for a few months then I went on ESA, then when I went back on JSA (in August) I never heard from Ingeus again. I was told I'd be referred to them but never heard anything from them directly.

 

Anyways I started work at a retail store for Christmas a few weeks ago and suddenly Ingeus are obsessed with me. I told the JSA about my job and how it was only for five weeks, and they said they would let Ingeus know (God knows why). The last few days Ingeus have been harassing me like mad. I've had TWENTY SIX missed calls from them today. They phoned me from their normal phone number and they've also tried to with-hold their number and call me. They've emailed me and text me a message saying they want to assist me with funding and travel expenses but I'm very suspicious of them. When I was with Ingeus, they told me that if I got a job while contracted to Ingeus then they could call up my employer and get feedback about my performance and persaude my employer to sign up for various contracts and make money off hiring me. Ingeus also said in the text they want my managers name and phone number and I REALLY don't want to give them it. As you can imagine my manager is extremely busy and stressed out due to the Christmas rush at the shop and he'd be majorly ****ed off if Ingeus start phoning him up and asking questions about me.

 

I just want them to **** off and leave me to work in peace but they won't leave me alone!!!!

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I just want them to **** off and leave me to work in peace but they won't leave me alone!!!!

 

Send them a cease and desist letter. Something along the lines of:

 

Your unwarranted and incessant attempts to contact me constitute harassment, and should you continue, it will be reported to the relevant authorities. For your information, I will report you for offences under the following:

 

  • Telecommunications Act 1984
  • Protection from Harassment Act 1997

As I am no longer claiming any qualifying benefits, I am under no obligation to engage in any way what so ever with yourselves.

 

What the hell, 26 calls in one day is excessive - I would report them to Ofcom and the ICO.

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Hi Osdset

Have read the details elsewhere. You have a very good case. Don't give up. Good Luck to you (not that you should need it).

 

Thanks Bakatcha

 

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What the hell, 26 calls in one day is excessive - I would report them to Ofcom and the ICO.

 

No, more than a couple of calls a day is excessive, 26 is outright harassment and should be reported to the police. They won't do anything of course unless it continues but they will give you an incident number which you should include in your cease and desist letter to show them you really mean business.

 

And while you're at it include a letter revoking permission to phone and email you and demand those details be removed from their database.

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Send them this it's a oldie but goody

 

 

(Address )

 

 

- HARASSMENT WARNING -

 

WARNING: PROTECTION FROM HARASSMENT ACT 1997

 

WARNING: COMMUNICATIONS ACT 2003. s127.

 

Telephone Number: (your number)

 

Re: Harassment by Telephone

 

 

 

(date)

 

Dear Sir/Madam

 

Your Reference: (National Insurance Number)

 

I am writing in relation to the telephone calls I have received from your organisation, which I deem to be personally harassing.

 

 

I now require the telephone number listed above to be completely removed from your systems.

 

 

I am of the view that your calling puts you in breach of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997.

 

This is a private telephone line, operated on a contract with the intention of receiving and making personal telephone calls, I have not authorised anyone to receive calls from your organisation using this PRIVATE TELEPHONE LINE.

 

By using this telephone number without my permission you are interfering with my ability to use my own private property for the duration of any call.

 

It is my right to require that this telephone line, which is licensed solely to me, be kept clear for my own personal calls.

 

 

It is consequently my view that you are committing the tort of interference with contract insofar as for the duration of each call you make to me without my permission, you are interfering with my contractual right to receive and make personal calls on my private telephone line.

 

Continued interference with my contractual rights in this manner will result in legal action.

 

If you continue to harass me by telephone, you will also be in breach of the Communications Act (2003) s.127 and I will report you to the Office of Communications, Trading Standards and the Office of Fair Trading, meaning that you will be liable for a substantial fine.

 

Be advised that all telephone calls from your company are recorded.

 

 

Kind Regards

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Thanks Bakatcha

I see elsewhere that you managed to get the seetec attempt to sanction you overturned. Well done! Of course 2 things occur to me:

1. It should not necessary for individuals to have to fight sand contest unfair sanction attempts in the numbers that are now occurring.

2. If you are unfortunate enough to collect a sanction doubt (muggins' turn) do not just accept it. Fight it all the way. Know your rights ... and use them.

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