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    • Between yourself and Dave you have produced a very good WS. However if you were to do a harder hitting WS it may be that VCS would be more likely to cancel prior to a hearing. The Contract . VCS [Jake Burgess?] are trying to conflate parking in a car park to driving along a road in order to defend the indefensible. It is well known that "NO Stopping " cannot form a contract as it is prohibitory. VCS know that well as they lose time and again in Court when claiming it is contractual. By mixing up parking with driving they hope to deflect from the fact trying to claim that No Stopping is contractual is tantamount to perjury. No wonder mr Burgess doesn't want to appear in Court. Conflation also disguises the fact that while parking in a car park for a period of time can be interpreted as the acceptance of the contract that is not the case while driving down a road. The Defendant was going to the airport so it is ludicrous to suggest that driving by a No Stopping  sign is tacitly accepting  the  contract -especially as no contract is even being offered. And even if a motorist did not wish to be bound by the so called contract what could they do? Forfeit their flight and still have to stop their car to turn around? Put like that the whole scenario posed by Mr Burgess that the Defendant accepted the contract by driving past the sign is absolutely absurd and indefensible. I certainly would not want to appear in Court defending that statement either. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I will do the contract itself later.
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Hi all,

 

New to the site and in need of a little help.

 

 

I have had my car stolen from a local independent garage whilst in for repair. The police have found the car burnt out. The garage say that i should contact my own insurance and want the money for the repair including the price of a new engine!

 

My insurance say it is the responsibility of the garage to cover for theft whilst in their care.

 

I am unsure as to the liability of insurance and whose insurance takes responsibly. Also i have doubts about the work carried out on the car as it seams a little to quick for the repairs to have been carried out.

 

Any help is greatly appreciated

 

Thank you

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you report it and claim through your own insurance company

 

then your insurance company deal with the garage own public liability/trade insurance policy

 

you pay the garage nothing

 

leave it up to your own insurance company

 

THATS WHAT YOU PAY THEM FOR

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The garage is correct OP. They do have a duty of care not to cause damage while working on your car and to ensure it is secured using the vehicles locks when unnatended. They dont however have to cover for damage not caused by themself providing they have the normal disclaimer signs.

 

You will have to pay them for the work as they have done what you requested they do. In fairness to the garage, if it was taken in requiring a new engine it is safe to assume the engine was fitted if it was driven from their site.

 

You will have to go through your own insurance. They will enquire about how the garage secured the car and if it wasn't secured they will pursue their insurer.

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I would

 

you have not been presented with any invoice prior to the threat or accepted any work was done

 

let your own insurance company do the donkey work

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What other vehicles got damage/stolen at the time? You sure the garage didn't decide not to do the work, then "arrange" for it to be stolen expecting your insurance to pay for their non-repair?

 

I agree with postggj, you initially claim through your own insurance, but they should pursue the garage through their business insurance. The garage bill is a matter for the garage to pursue through whatever insurance liabilities they have for "unpaid bills" perhaps.

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Just a thought, have you asked for the invoice for the engine they claim to have obtained from their own suppliers? Also have you asked for a copy of the invoice for the work they claim to have carried out? If they got both it should be date and time stamped to coincide with what the work was completed.

Maybe worth paying them a visit to ask for them on the premise that your insurer has asked for them to see what they say and how they react!

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I may be wrong but if garage wanted your car to be stay overnight at their premises then they should be liable for any damage. I think that garage is just trying to get out the engine money off you which was never fixed.

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