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    • My Debt has also transferred to J&P,  I was getting letters to my previous address which stopped - i still have access to but its not where i live, there a letter on the way to Dubai confirming my current address as advised above. 4 weeks ago out of the blue i get a text regarding credit card debt and to call a number, ignored the message, the next day i get a letter from J&P to my current address. A couple of weeks in a row i get the same text and again a letter. They have managed to get my current phone number and address. I have just received a phone call from 07441 362857, I answered and they asked if my name was xxxxxx which i confirmed, they only asked my first name. after i confirmed they just put the phone down. Does this sound like a tactic to try and get me to ring them back, or could it be some other, totally unrelated scam? just seems weird they knew my name.  
    • ACPOA PCN 190424.pdf   1 Date of the infringement 30/3/24 2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 19/4/24 [scan up BOTH SIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide] please LEAVE IN LOCATION AND ALL DATES/TIMES/£'s 3 Date received 23/4/24 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] No 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? No 6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] N Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up Give answer here 7 Who is the parking company? APCOA 8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Ludlow Tesco 2856 For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. No  
    • So not entirely down to the ticket office, then. In fact you have been quite fortunate. The "Section 172" response provides the evidence the police need to prove that you were driving if they wish to prosecute you in court. In England and Wales there is a legal precedent which has determined that an unsigned s172 response does not meet the requirements of that part of the RTA. In effect, an unsigned response is equivalent to no response at all. (This precedent is not recognised in Scotland and there is a strategy to "go unsigned" to avoid conviction). When they receive an unsigned response the police are perfectly entitled to prosecute you for "Failing to provide drivers details" and they more often than not do. This offence carries six points, a hefty fine and insurance grief for up to five years. So you got lucky. The situation now is that the deadline for accepting a course is passed. Four months is the absolute maximum, with some forces cutting it back to as little as three months from the date of the offence. The police will not extend this because if you fail to complete the course before six months has elapsed, they can no longer prosecute you. They can only begin proceedings up to the corresponding date in June (i.e. if the offence was December 10th, they have until June 10th to begin proceedings). You will gain nothing by taking this to court. On the contrary you have a lot to lose. Courses are offered entirely at the discretion of the police, you have no right to one and the court has no powers to order one. Presumably you have been offered a fixed penalty of £100 and 3 points. If you are sentenced in court it will cost you at least three times that, possibly more (depending on your speed and your income). My advice: accept the fixed penalty and do it soon as there is a deadline for that as well and if you allow it to pass your matter will be taken to court anyway. Do not forget to submit your driving licence details as instructed when accepting the offer. If you fail to do so the police will have no time left to remind you (and they don't usually send reminders for this anyway) and, again, your case will end up in court.
    • put them all in one mass pdf please  read upload use the websites listed. dx
    • Hi all, I have an update: I have received the documents from the SAR, including photos. It appears that I was parked in a bay with a sign that requires a permit, however the pole that it is on does appear to be behind the barrier - see photo. Also, they documented that they DID NOT apply the PCN to my car because of safety concerns and I DID NOT receive the initial £60 PCN by post- see attached.CamScanner 05-10-2024 15.06.pdf appreciate nay feedback/ advice, current PCN fee stands at £100. CamScanner 05-10-2024 15.03.pdf CamScanner 05-10-2024 15.08.pdf CamScanner 05-10-2024 15.06.pdf
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Do you have a copy of the e-mail that was sent as you will be able to check the address as Cerbs quoted in an earlier post.

You really need to follow through the advice given about contacting the police etc.

Mr.Hart is a man of desperation in my opinion and the only way to put this to bed is to follow the advice given as the more evidence you have of fraudulent claims etc the easier the court case will be and not forgetting the bigger the claim could be... and why not for all the hassle and grief Mr.Hart has put you through.

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I personally would make a complaint against the officer that gave you the warning on the grounds you were not responsible for the email nor do you have such an email account and as such the email needs to be investigated so the true offender can be found and dealt with appropriately. And also ask for a copy of the alleged email and details as to the senders IP address so you can present it in court since there is currently court proceedings ongoing and it is therefore relevant to the court case.

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The Police Officer's that you spoke to have acted like Judge and Jury found you guilty WITHOUT presenting you with any evidence thereby not giving you a chance to defend yourself and to me that warrants a complaint as it goes against what we are meant to perceive of our "Justice system" . . . . innocent before being proved guilty eh :?::?:

 

As the Court case is still live all the relevant information re this alleged threatening email should be presented to them and the good thing is as you've been told not to contact Mr H this will go in your favour because if he keeps contacting you and getting 'rsy because you don't reply I think you'd be quite within your rights to get back in touch with the CID and get them to tell him to back off and wait till August to make his point in Court

 

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I personally would make a complaint against the officer that gave you the warning on the grounds you were not responsible for the email nor do you have such an email account and as such the email needs to be investigated so the true offender can be found and dealt with appropriately. And also ask for a copy of the alleged email and details as to the senders IP address so you can present it in court since there is currently court proceedings ongoing and it is therefore relevant to the court case.

 

Agree. You must not let this slip by uncontested.

 

Ditto Revenant’s points.

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A formal police warning cannot be made on the phone, a senior officer has

to authorise such action, to act on what seems to be a vexatious complaint

is totally out of a DC's remit.

Any further activity must be reported to the PCA and the Commisioner, don't

bother with the locals any more.

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I would be surprised if the call came from a Police Office, as they refused to provide their number, which they have to do on request. To not do so, is actually a disciplinary offence.

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The call is kosha. Have spoken to the met and it is a cid office etcAs she gave me a warning the matter is closed

 

If that is so, then I think you should make a complaint to a senior officer that you want the matter investigated properly. As the others have said, it is an easy enough matter to trace the origins of an email. I don't even know what a police "warning" given over the phone means, it sounds to me that it has a very dubious legal basis. I certainly don't think you should accept it.

 

Have they actually confirmed that this call came from a genuine Detective Constable, or merely that the number belongs to the MET?

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"She gave me a warning the matter is closed"

 

In other words, this DC told you that the matter is closed.

 

So the matter is closed. In other words they arent taking Hart's complaint any further.

 

Clearly they dont take it seriously

 

I can assure you that you didnt get a police warning about anything.

 

The thing that concerns me is why this "DC" mentioned the civil case. WTF is that to do with the cops, and why did this "DC" tell you the civil case had been dropped?

 

As this nonsense happened over the phone, the "DC" had no idea who she was talking to so was in breach of DPA for a start. It all sounds like a load of bollocks, to be honest.

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If that was not a police officer phoning then the misuse of that phone is a serious matter and the

person who made the call has several charges to answer THE POLICE COMPLAINT AUTHORITY IS THE FIRST STOP

not jusr for you ads but it will prevent others being treated the same way.

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Well met have said a letter will be out in the post so the doubters again can start now cooking there humble pie..

Why would I want to make such a story up, I have nothing to achieve from it.

people have seen word for word everything that has been sent to me and submitted by me, Except personal info.

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I want to get the letter first to confirm that it was a yahoo or what ever email account its supposed to have come from. I was that annoyed and frustrated at the call as it did not seem to make any sense, I really didnt catch the domain but I am sure she said ymail (only heard of gmail till then) but did ask her to repeat it.

As for the telephone number, I think you misunderstood what I said.. They called my mobile number and Unknown came on the screen. She provided me with the telephone number & crime number when I requested it, hence why we have tied it down to Muswell Hill and how I called them back.

 

Now again as for the email, I have not recieved an email nor sent an email to anybody..... The email was sent by Mr H to the police in his claim for harrassment/threatening behaviour - hence again my comment of he now looks the victim..

 

Until I recieve the letter from the police I will not send anything to anyone (giving it 3days) then I will send something next week if I could request some help when I set about writing something...

The chappy from the Met I spoke to did say and confirm to me about the DC saying the court case is ceased/closed but then said (he seemed a quite intelligent chap - mainly cos he took the initiative to call the number whilst i was on the line!!) from submission of withdrawing a claim it can take a while for the paper work to filter through.... that being said I am still treating this as an open case until otherwise.

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I have not disbelieved anything you have said, just queried the way that the Police Officer had performed their job. Sounds below par work to me. They can't really just phone someone, tell them that a complaint has been made against them and that it had been closed. Or is this a case of the Police not being too bothered and just looking to save work.

 

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