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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Can anyone recommend an employment lawyer please

 

I spoke to Acas today they said my previous employer are in serious breach of contract, they admitted before I left they could not cope with HSE Policies etc, my injury was meant to be 2 years if they took me off post etc they did not accomondate this request. Now permanent won't be able to drive etc

 

Showed how much colleagues were getting on average on OHP my role was not mentioned etc, though earning up to 6 grand year less, most important job, pos work, they changed my job but no contract till 24 months later, no proper job title till then, no adjustable heeight trolley provided, no cushion provided, year later after training accused me of dozing of in manual handling training, asked for it when job changed, left two months till after initial accident.

 

Had not been told lifting incorrectly perrson was stood right behind me

 

Was angry they've left me with this condition, was angry not told how long for etc, they allowed to get away with not coping with those policies

 

Have mild PTSD from the bullying , was limping for example asked if I had been shot when limping, my injuries distracted team.

 

Known as ppa send off they sent 30-40 thousand prescriptions a month to scotland, was not known was in box having asked all declined told to get on with it, refusal to put in accident book, not believed injured, they took previous person off with her bad back off the job, not even provided with adjustable in height rolley, one company had not even available on day of accident was so low down etc, would have still had to bend down even if it were present.

 

No response to new injury claim, personal court proceedings on that being issued, they're not following protocols, started 7 may 2010

 

They apprieciated I was concerned that doing one would interfere with the Injury claim, he said it would not and thinks my case will have sufficient grounds to be allowed an extension

 

No union when I was there, I was employed 4 December 2006 to 31 March 2010, Acas seemed to think doing tribunal would be okay

 

I have prepared ET1 just need approval

 

Two occupational healths was assessed, mother present

 

Final occupational health never saw me, said since hes now better he can resume to normal duties; she failed to disclose symptoms, even no lifting etc, mother appalled.

 

I was victimised, bullied etc, bit like some of you on here, my manager refused to believe they had anything over 3 kilos, when 5 reams of paper is 10-14 kilos had to even lift that during recovery not even in individual reams

 

Reports from medical were discussed in open etc, called old man etc, others taken off heavy work with their bad backs, my scores reduced without concent, was earning up to 6 grand a year less than all of them, they made me do it all by myself etc

 

Acas said strong case especially as one employee had been told he would have no job if he came back full time

 

No exit interview, no opportunity to progress - £655 was overlooked in first claim, current schedule of loss £6800 in six months.

 

Two greivances sent both ignored

 

Could go on, statement ten pages, my ET1 event history 4 pages

 

No compassionate leave, they did not consider my gran family member, only one day as holiday for funeral

 

Squeak in ear, shape of ear changed, my hearing aids malfunctioned couldn't hear what was said in training.

 

Want to work, willing to work, experienced typist, future employers not taknig me on because of my back, for example hospital didn't give it to me because of my back.

 

I can walk but can't stand long periods, sciatica which final nurse who didn't see failed to disclose etc.

 

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Hello Andrew. I don't think CAG rules allow us to recommend an employment lawyer because it's advertising. Have you spoken to the CAB? They often have contacts for this sort of thing and they should have someone in your area.

 

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No union when I was there, I was employed 4 December 2006 to 31 March 2010, Acas seemed to think doing tribunal would be okay

 

Ermmm - on what grounds and when did ACAS say this? Because you say that your contract was terminated on 31st March. It is now 2nd October. A tribunal claim must be submitted within 3 months less a day of the termination - six months is permitted if there is an ongoing grievance and the matter relates to discrimination. By any count of that, you are out of time and cannot make a claim.

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I emailed them Friday and he said because they cannot cope with HSE policies etc, all my issues are serious breaches of contract he asked when I left etc he told me I should send in the ET1 form also. Said I was concerned of injury claim interfering which court proceedings are being issued, that the ET1 would interfere he said to get it ready etc. Each previous grience ignored forced to retract one. Not responding to protocols in injury claim etc

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I emailed them Friday and he said because they cannot cope with HSE policies etc, all my issues are serious breaches of contract he asked when I left etc he told me I should send in the ET1 form also. Said I was concerned of injury claim interfering which court proceedings are being issued, that the ET1 would interfere he said to get it ready etc. Each previous grience ignored forced to retract one. Not responding to protocols in injury claim etc

 

Serious breaches they may be - out of time they are, I'm afraid. Extensions to the three months are only very rarely given for exceptiuonal circumstances - I can see no reason here to believe that to be the case. I cannot understand why ACAS would tell you otherwise - they would have known yesterday that the claim was out of time.

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Seem to recall they also suggested I do civil court which I believe is six years isn't it

 

OK. I am even more confused now. You cannot submit an ET1 to a civil court - only a tribunal has the jurisdisdiction to hear employment matters. A civil court can hear such things as personal injury or loss (nothing to do with an ET1 or a tribunal) and debt (unpaid wages or awards). Very few breach of contract matters can be heard in civil court - mostly to do with the two matters I have already mentioned. Tribunals, on the other hand, have nothing to do with personal injury claims - if that is what your claim is about.

 

I think I should poiint out that ACAS are not lawyers and nor are they legal advisers, and I seriously doubt that many of them would have a clue about civil court proceedings. TBH, to date, what they have told you so far appears to hold up my view that these days they know precious little about employment law either. I can see no basis or justification for what ACAS have told you. And just so that you understand - I am an employment law barrister with 30 years experience, so I do know what I am talking about.

 

You need to see a solicitor (and a personal injury one - not an employment one) to see what legal remedies you may have for personal injury - you simply won't get very far without one, and certainly not in a civil court proceedings against a legal team from the employers. I can see no prospect of any employment tribunal accepting jurisdiction for a claim that is more than six months old.

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Yes I have a personal injury lawyer representing me they did not respond in 3 months 21 days, they're not responding to protocols; so she will be issuing proceedings but could another option to have an employment lawyer along side the personal injury lawyer, to reflect a lot of the employment issues; realise it would not be employment tribunal but with so many breaches took 24 months to get new contract etc.

 

My worry is my former manager has denied what he has said, is he allowed to do this, also is my other manager allowed to deny what she said about the reports saying I was better in the open, she called me an old man also would those have been allowed, they took previous person off the post work because she had bad back, then admitted they could not cope with H S E policies; owuld a judge see H S E policies a serious issue, of course I asked for all the training they denied it leading now to this permanent injury, having recieved it two months after, not when my role changed, and during my recovery they forced me to lift 10-14 kilos which was paper not even individual reams.

 

Been angry people weren't telling me how long for, then if I had been taken off it would have made it two year recovery they failed to accomondate that request now it's permanent won't be able to drive etc.

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Yes I have a personal injury lawyer representing me they did not respond in 3 months 21 days, they're not responding to protocols; so she will be issuing proceedings but could another option to have an employment lawyer along side the personal injury lawyer, to reflect a lot of the employment issues; realise it would not be employment tribunal but with so many breaches took 24 months to get new contract etc. I am sorry. I am obviously not been clear enough. The employment issues, even if they would have been of interest to a tribunal, are not pertinant to a civil court unless there is a clear and quantifiable loss, and the clear and quantifiable loss that you have mentioned is alleged personal injury. So if your employer didn't pay notice pay, or made unlawful deductions from your salary, then you could, even if out of time, make a civil claim. But you cannot take an employment dispute through the civil courts except where the claim may relate to a quantifiable loss resulting from, say, negligence. So, for example, the court wouldn't care whether it took 24 months, 240 months or whether you never had an employment contract in the first place. None of their business. And to be honest, a tribunal wouldn't be much bothered either - you have a somewhat unrealistic view of what tribunals do.

 

My worry is my former manager has denied what he has said, is he allowed to do this, also is my other manager allowed to deny what she said about the reports saying I was better in the open, she called me an old man also would those have been allowed, they took previous person off the post work because she had bad back, then admitted they could not cope with H S E policies; owuld a judge see H S E policies a serious issue, of course I asked for all the training they denied it leading now to this permanent injury, having recieved it two months after, not when my role changed, and during my recovery they forced me to lift 10-14 kilos which was paper not even individual reams. Are employers allowed to lie. No, of course not (or not in court anyway). Can they lie and get away with it - yes, of course they can. They do it all the time. Whether you can prove that they are lying is what matters. But again - a judge in civil court doesn't care about your employers policies or whether they could or couldn't cope with them. It' entirely irrelevant. What they are concerned with is whether you can evidence that you have suffered a loss or injury which can be ascribed to your employers actions, and which can be turned into a cash compensation. Their only interest in H&S policies in in this context. So they won't be sitting there saying "You (the employer) breached health and safety and you must pay for that" - they will only be looking at the extent to which your injury was provably caused by the employers actions.

 

Been angry people weren't telling me how long for, then if I had been taken off it would have made it two year recovery they failed to accomondate that request now it's permanent won't be able to drive etc.

 

I honestly cannot see what an employment law specialist can do for you now - except, possibly, run up bills you cannot afford. Anything that might have been a matter for a tribunal is now out of time, and personal injury is a very different area of law.

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