THE Election - Made your mind up yet ??

[Fred Bassett]

:A high price for England to, pay!

 

As always.

 

Get this though - my Daughter is at Cardiff Uni doing a degree in Adult Nursing and she gets a non means-tested bursary - something that would be denied to her if she studied in England. I don't mind, Cardiff's a fantastic city and it was her first choice because it was streets ahead of all of the others she looked at, but how ironic is that?

[babybear39]

Do you have to rely on newspapers to add weight to your opinion?

 

I don't.

 

In actual fact I was in a coma on the date that article was published and for four weeks following...

 

Yet,I awoke with my faculties in tact (sort of) and with the ability to see through the smoke and mirrors that my own profession was touting to the gullible public

[babybear39]

 

As always.

 

Get this though - my Daughter is at Cardiff Uni doing a degree in Adult Nursing and she gets a non means-tested bursary - something that would be denied to her if she studied in England. I don't mind, Cardiff's a fantastic city and it was her first choice because it was streets ahead of all of the others she looked at, but how ironic is that?

 

Plaid Cymru and Labour allow that to happne. It isn't pennies from heaven you know. It's money that is taken from the poorest of people to allow the youth to study. It's called balance

 

Oh, and one can only surmise that your Tory leanings mean that you have something to lose

[determindator]

I would like to add this is the climate to raise the profile of CAG and the cause of unfairness. The banks have the monopoly of the financial system and know not everyone is a banker. There's many social reasons why people go overdrawn and not because they deliberately intend too. That's another discussion bankers being responsible for allowing spend spend spend. This has been apparent in the last 20 years, simple economics tells you there's going to be a big black cash hole at some point. If they hadn't worked it out they're not bankers! Perhaps another name? Hoorah for them they held it off for twenty years.

[angry cat]

 

As always.

 

Get this though - my Daughter is at Cardiff Uni doing a degree in Adult Nursing and she gets a non means-tested bursary - something that would be denied to her if she studied in England. I don't mind, Cardiff's a fantastic city and it was her first choice because it was streets ahead of all of the others she looked at, but how ironic is that?

 

Yes, many things are free in Wales, as opposed to England!

[Fred Bassett]

Do you have to rely on newspapers to add weight to your opinion?

 

I don't.

 

In actual fact I was in a coma on the date that article was published and for four weeks following...

 

Yet,I awoke with my faculties in tact (sort of) and with the ability to see through the smoke and mirrors that my own profession was touting to the gullible public

 

Hi BB, that's a disingenuous sort of argument. Somebody has to tell us what's going on. It's the balance between absolute fact and opinion that we have to sieve when making up our own opinions - it's up to us to accept it lock, stock and barrel or to read between the lines. Read the Mail after the last TV debate and Brown was a disaster. Read the Mirror and Brown was head and shoulders ahead of the other two. I saw it and don't believe either version.

 

I suppose we ought to be grateful that we still have a free(ish) press.

 

Regards.

 

Fred

Edited May 8, 2010 by Fred Bassett

[babybear39]

Many things aren't free in Wales. The Welsh assembly has thought long and hard over what wold benefit the population. Prescriptions and students came top of their list and those have benefitted magnificently

[babybear39]

Free press? Freedom of speech? In the UK? You're 'avin' a laugh

[Fred Bassett]

 

Plaid Cymru and Labour allow that to happne. It isn't pennies from heaven you know. It's money that is taken from the poorest of people to allow the youth to study. It's called balance

 

Oh, and one can only surmise that your Tory leanings mean that you have something to lose

 

Like I said before BB, Plaid Cymru don't stand where I live! Ultimately, it is the taxpayers of Britain that allow it to happen - the English being the majority of them, so it's my money too. I'm just glad that I'm getting something back for a change.

[babybear39]

No Fred. That money comes from the Welsh budget

[angry cat]

 

Plaid Cymru and Labour allow that to happne. It isn't pennies from heaven you know. It's money that is taken from the poorest of people to allow the youth to study. It's called balance

 

Oh, and one can only surmise that your Tory leanings mean that you have something to lose

 

by BB:

Oh, and one can only surmise that your Tory leanings mean that you have something to lose[END QUOTE]

 

Wrong.

 

Do you really think that all the people who have voted for DC, are affluent?

 

That concept, is so very incorrect!

[determindator]

I notice the bankers didn't take any responsibility and admit the computer should have said 'no' 20 twenty years ago.

 

Now, let's raise the interest rates reaching iro 15% under Mrs T. Fabulous if you have savings! So glad the labour Gov gave responsibility to Bank Of England to take control of this.

[angry cat]

Free press? Freedom of speech? In the UK? You're 'avin' a laugh

 

:

"What a fuss about an omlette"

[Fred Bassett]

No Fred. That money comes from the Welsh budget

 

Does every single penny of that come from Welsh taxpayers alone BB?

[determindator]

Have you noticed something BB?!

[babybear39]

 

by BB:

Oh, and one can only surmise that your Tory leanings mean that you have something to lose[END QUOTE]

 

Wrong.

 

Do you really think that all the people who have voted for DC, are affluent?

 

That concept, is so very incorrect!

 

Well then mate you are in for a nasty surprise

[Bookworm]

I take it that the IMF agrees with Brown's way of thinking then.

More precisely, they relied on their knowledge of economy and how it works, looked at the parties' plans to get Britain out of trouble and decided that a wait and see policy under the current climate gets better results that the Tories "do it now".

You don't know what rules my head and it is very arrogant of you to presume that you do.

then I suggest you learn to control your typing fingers, as the way I could reach that conclusion was by reading your very own words.

[babybear39]

Yes D, I think I need a shovel :rolleyes:

[Bookworm]

Blair: Denounced as liar and murderer - UK Politics, UK - The Independent

So people shouting it from the gallery make it true? An interesting concept.

 

As far as I can tell, he hasn't been found guilty in a court of either, therefore it is potentially libellous to call him either, BB is absolutely correct.

[Fred Bassett]

Yes D, I think I need a shovel :rolleyes:

 

Just don't take any of our English mud BB. You can have anything else, but not our mud.

[Bookworm]

Prescriptions and students came top of their list and those have benefitted magnificently

Typical liberal crap, waste the taxpayers' money on benefit scroungers and layabouts doing nothing to earn their keep.

[angry cat]

I notice the bankers didn't take any responsibility and admit the computer should have said 'no' 20 twenty years ago.

 

Now, let's raise the interest rates reaching iro 15% under Mrs T. Fabulous if you have savings! So glad the labour Gov gave responsibility to Bank Of England to take control of this.

 

I went off to find this for you:

 

The Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) and Natwest Bank Fraud, Illegal and Unethical Practices

 

Labour, let this happen!

Lord Myners (ex couttes/natWest) assisted with the, could I say, enquiry...

 

RBS, have been in the pockets of labour for years; they rode roughshod over all the rules.

But, nothing was done to rein them;

RBS, brought the country to it's knees and;

then, Labour bailed them out!?

 

What was it that Fred the Shred said to GB?

Answer;

'a cash flow problem'.

[Fred Bassett]

Typical liberal crap, waste the taxpayers' money on benefit scroungers and layabouts doing nothing to earn their keep.

 

Pity that liberal crap didn't extend to England. I have to pay for my prescriptions.

[determindator]

Yes D, I think I need a shovel :rolleyes:

 

Oh no BB imvoa you are holding them off very very well!

[angry cat]

So people shouting it from the gallery make it true? An interesting concept.

 

As far as I can tell, he hasn't been found guilty in a court of either, therefore it is potentially libellous to call him either, BB is absolutely correct.

 

Sue the newspapers then and all the others who spoke same