Prime Minister's Question Time

[DoomPriestKano]

Since I've always wondered how I would run the country if the village idiot was removed from office, i've decided to play a little game.

 

I'm the prime minister, below is how I would fix this country and initiatives I would start to achieve the targets.

 

The first person to reply is leader of the opposition party (which at this stage would be the conservatives, but you can judge which party I would be via my manifesto below). Second person to reply is leader of the Lib Dems or whichever 3rd party it happens to be. Any subsequent posts are by random members of the house (you can state which party you represent before your question, can be fictional if you like).

 

Fire your questions at me about the manifesto and i'll reply in a very prime-ministerish way, think of this as a game where were all in the house of commons and debating with each other (which tends to be better than most soap opera's anyways).

 

So, here goes. (ignore any spelling mistakes, i got little to no sleep last night and i'm sat at work bored )

 

IMPORTANT NOTE: Although you can be representatives of fictional parties I would ask that you dont ask any un-related questions such as "BUT WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE PENGUIN ARMY ADVANCING ON OUR BORDERS??!!!111111one", the aim of this game is to see how people would solve the countries problems or change things to make them work, so constructive if possible pleeease

 

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Prime Minister Mr. DoomPriestKano

2010 Manifesto and Initiatives.

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"Members of the house, esteemed colleagues and honourable representatives, having been chosen by the people to fix Britain, I shall not disappoint".

 

"Britain is in a dire financial situation. With our defecit reaching hundreds of millions per year, this cannot continue and therefore I shall enact the following procedures, initiatives and schemes to remedy the situation, these issues may be controversial but I invite you to discuss the matter with me and if we can provide any workeable alternatives, I welcome the opportunity".

 

 

1) Defence

 

"Britain has always been a beacon for democracy, helping those under opression and promoting free will and freedom throughout the world, however we cannot fight a war on a defecit, despite my own patriotic feelings telling me to remain in Afghanistan and Iraq, I intend to withdraw all troops as soon as possible, they are currently poorly equipped and cannot do their job effectively without appropriate support, I will not be responsible for the deaths of our brave soldiers and we must now look to saving Britain before we save anywhere else.

 

The previous prime minister has said that we currently have a number of active nuclear trident submarines as deterrent against aggressors, I believe there are too many of these submarines and plan to reduce their numbers, saving several billion pounds which will be re-invested to reduce our current defecit."

 

 

2) Crime

 

"Another scheme which the previous prime minister suggested introducing, and one which I actually support is a national DNA database. This is a highly controversial subject and one that many people have objected to, which they have full rights to do. To remedy their concerns I make this pledge, which will be enacted as part of the law to govern the system, that the data collected will NOT be used to spy on the person in question, the data will be used solely to drastically reduce the crime rate within britain as DNA evidence is a very important and powerful tool in the fight against crime. I invite anyone to supply their arguments against this and I will consider any alternatives offered."

 

"Further to this, I intend to introduce the National ID card across britain, these cards can be used as passports but without the size and inconvenience as cards do not degrade in quality as fast and can also be stored easily, this card will be the chief form of identification for british citizens. Card potection has come along vastly in recent years so producing forgeries of these cards will be difficult and there will be several instantly-recognizeable methods of spotting a fake should they arise."

 

"There will be an amendment to the law stating that anyone who breaks ino a property is at the mercy of the property owner, reasonable force to eject the offender may be used, if it is proved that the property owner has used excessive force, criminal charges may be initiated against that person.

 

"Those who cause child neglect and are proven to have acted willfully in abusing a child or causing a child's death as a result of neglect will be steralized andwill NOT be eligable for adoption schemes".

 

 

3) Prisons + Punishment

 

"Firstly, the definition of "life" shall be changed from a minimum of 25 years to it's literal meaning, if you get life, you will spend the rest of your days incarcerated".

 

"Our prison system is overcrowded and this has led to early release for many dangerous people who should not be allowed back on our streets, therefore I propose that a new off-shore prison facility be built to house all current prison inmates, this correctional facility will be a maximum security facility, and will NOT have the current luxuries that all inmates enjoy such as sky television, games consoles and other items. These criminals have broken the law and as such should be trated as what they are, giving them luxuries and a roof over their heads will do nothing but convince them to re-offend when released if they have nowhere else to go."

 

"In regards to punishment, as well as being registered on the sex offenders register anyone who commits a sexual crime with an underage person (or overage and unconsented) and the act is admitted or found guilty beyond any reasonable doubt, offending party will have their reproductive organs removed. Likewise, the act of murder shall result in the ending of the offenders life or life imprisonment using the same guidelines as previously mentioned for sexual crimes, the crime must be pleaded guilty or proven beyond any reasonable doubt."

 

 

4) Transport

 

"The rail and bus companies will be bought and re-nationalized so we can protect jobs and focus on improving the country's transport system".

 

"The high-speed rail network will be expanded to cover all major cities, this will not be enacted until the defecit is under control and ticket prices will rise slightly to fund the expansion, with a 25% drop in ticket prices after the expansion is complete, this ticket price reduction will be for a period of 6 months to refund the public for the expansion funding"

 

 

5) Finances

 

"Footballers in england who earn over 25000 a month will be taxed at 50%, and a further 1% for every £10,000 thereafter (meaning if christiano ronaldo was still playing in the UK, he would be taxed at 56% as he's currently on a hideous £80,000 wage)".

 

"MP's will no longer be able to claim mortgage costs on second homes, instead they CAN claim on travel expenses, and any expenses directly linked to their constituancy. MP's will take a 25% wage reduction, including myself, which will be used to reduce the defecit".

 

"To help reduce the defecit we MUST look to britain's finances before helping anyone elses, therefore all governmental aid overseas for disaster relief will be halted until the defecit is under control, there are charities who can help those overseas and I urge the public to donate to them if they wish to make a difference".

 

"Banking bonuses paid above £30,000 to any employee of any bank of financial institution at the end of the fiscal year who have situation within the UK's borders will be taxed at 50%, seeing as they get paid millions despite a drop in profits this shouldn't worry them much".

 

"We will be immediately recovering the billions we have paid the banks to bail them out, if they refuse to pay we will pass the issue to a debt collection agency who will then constantly harrass them to recover the money, let's see how they like it".

 

"All benefits will be merged to one department, there will no longer be several benefits for different situations, you will call a single number, they will assess your situation and pay you a single payment for anything you are entitled to"

 

"The previously suggested Robin Hood Tax will be taken into effect, this system states that any financial transaction that leaves the country shall pay a 0.005% tax, this will raise billions and will be used directly to reduce our defecit, I am raising the tax to 0.010% to double the revenue, this will still be unseeable in transaction fees by companies".

 

"Using the money gained from all the aforementioned financial initiatives we will immediately drop the defecit by paying off all external loans and debt owing to other countries".

 

 

 

"Should there by any further issues you need me to state my position on, please feel free to ask, Mr. Speaker, I now invite all questions from other parties".

[The GodMother]

simple way of sorting the country get them all in the same place, prefferablty parliment at PMQ time, and blow them up.

 

Country sorted and the sensible will run it.

[mazbck]

Introduce a National Service scheme again for all 18-20 year olds so that they can learn discipline, respect and have the knowledge of a basic career at the end of the 2 years, ie mechanics, electrians and plumbers.

[The GodMother]

Opersition leader of the Consumer Action Group. Party.

 

1) Defence.

 

Tridant is going to cost this country lots of money to replace are you going to be getting rid of this as well as submarines?

 

I would like the opersition leader to know that despite having 2 members of my family in the armed services that i agree we cant be involved in a war when we have not got the funding or the equipment to do the job properly.

[mazbck]

ooops me got it wrong

 

I think Ill try again tomorrow, its not a good idea to post what I think is good ideas when Ive just taken strong strong painkillers!!!

[The GodMother]

Leader of the opersition The Consumer Action Party.

 

The national DNA database.

 

How are the goverment going to deal with out of date information? By this i mean changes in name due to marriage, divorce or deed poll.

 

How long is it going to take for a deceased persons data to be removed from the system?

 

The system will it be for adults only or will children also be on the system?

 

ID cards.

 

At what age would you expect somebody to start carrying a ID card?

 

Also What age would the data e collected from and how would the goverment ensure the information was correct?

 

There has been a lot of ppl who have found out the blood group they assume they are and have been for several years told they are this group who have recently found out it is wrong how would the goverment deal with this type of suituation and the national idenity cards?

 

What type of Information would be stored on the ID cards?

 

Admentment re burglerys.

 

We support this admendment but as part of this support we would like to see the introduction of stronger security.

 

We also support the child neglect and sterlisation system.

[Jimbo-Jones]

The Godmother

 

In relation to the Bloodgroup and other DNA Queries.

 

As part of the proposed national service for all 18-20 year olds

 

1. Compulsory blood donation every 6 months for all serving individuals unless abstaining for religious reasons.

 

2 This will mean a fresh sample of DNA can be obtained from all individuals those abstaining for the above forementioned reasons will be requested to provide blood samples. This also means that at the same as keeping the militaries needs for blood donation will not be a drain on the NHS supllies but all excess (and there will be alot) will go directly to the NHS.

 

3. The samples will also be tested for any substance misuse thus rendering the need for the current Compulsory drugs testing system and teams requirements saving money and resources.

 

4. The individuals who decide not to stay in the armed forces on completion of national service will have given atleast 4 blood donations/DNA samples and as such any abnormailities or recording errors can be greatly reduced when it comes to issuing E-Identity cards which are DNA linked.

 

5. Identity cards are to be issued on completion of National service at age 20

 

Jimbo-Jones

Undersecretary of State for Defence

Edited March 21, 2010 by Jimbo-Jones

[patrickq1]

simple way of sorting the country get them all in the same place, prefferablty parliment at PMQ time, and blow them up.

 

Country sorted and the sensible will run it.

 

Temper Temper GODMOTHER violence begats violence......stick ep all in tower let em rot he he

[patrickq1]

The Godmother

 

In relation to the Bloodgroup and other DNA Queries.

 

As part of the proposed national service for all 18-20 year olds

 

1. Compulsory blood donation every 6 months for all serving individuals unless abstaining for religious reasons.

 

2 This will mean a fresh sample of DNA can be obtained from all individuals those abstaining for the above forementioned reasons will be requested to provide blood samples. This also means that at the same as keeping the militaries needs for blood donation will not be a drain on the NHS supllies but all excess (and there will be alot) will go directly to the NHS.

 

3. The samples will also be tested for any substance misuse thus rendering the need for the current Compulsory drugs testing system and teams requirements saving money and resources.

 

4. The individuals who decide not to stay in the armed forces on completion of national service will have given atleast 4 blood donations/DNA samples and as such any abnormailities or recording errors can be greatly reduced when it comes to issuing E-Identity cards which are DNA linked.

 

5. Identity cards are to be issued on completion of National service at age 20

 

Jimbo-Jones

Undersecretary of State for Defence

 

all this blood dude why dont we just emply a few draculas for good measure,if i wanna give blood then it will be my free choice not by a draconian law ,i am a free man ,i would strongly object to BIG BROTHER next we will have to fix up webcams in our houses so that goverment can keep a tight reign on us ...

 

[DoomPriestKano]

Leader of the opersition The Consumer Action Party.

 

The national DNA database.

 

How are the goverment going to deal with out of date information? By this i mean changes in name due to marriage, divorce or deed poll.

 

How long is it going to take for a deceased persons data to be removed from the system?

 

The system will it be for adults only or will children also be on the system?

 

ID cards.

 

At what age would you expect somebody to start carrying a ID card?

 

Also What age would the data e collected from and how would the goverment ensure the information was correct?

 

There has been a lot of ppl who have found out the blood group they assume they are and have been for several years told they are this group who have recently found out it is wrong how would the goverment deal with this type of suituation and the national idenity cards?

 

What type of Information would be stored on the ID cards?

 

Admentment re burglerys.

 

We support this admendment but as part of this support we would like to see the introduction of stronger security.

 

We also support the child neglect and sterlisation system.

 

 

 

I thank the honourable member for those comments, and in response:

 

 

1) DNA Database

 

"Should a citizen visit a doctor, hospital, or any other medical institution the practitioner they meet with shall access the DNA database during the appointment and check the last date the citizens details were updated, if this date is over 6 months the citizen must update those details during the appointment, it shall be a criminal offence to knowingly provide inacurate information and should the citizen refuse to update these details then treatment will be refused, in the case of emergency the citizen will be treated before details are confirmed. Should the citizen have no fixed address they must provide all information available and residence status shall be marked as unstable until a fixed address is available to update. These details should take no longer than 10 minutes to update so time should not be a major factor".

 

"In regards to those citizens who have passed away, a note will be placed on their file stating where they currently rest, in the case of any other method such as cremation, the address of the institution who carried out the cremation will be noted, the file will then be digitally archived allowing easy access to that file should there be a need to do so. After a period of 10 years, the file will be deleted entirely from the national database".

 

"People who find themselves in an incorrect blood group can have their details updated free of charge by submitting a small form available from their local council, this will also require another form to be attached from a doctor stating that they have confirmed the citizen is currently in an incorrect group".

 

"In addition to this, the undersecretary of state's comments are also valid actions we will be persuing in support".

 

 

2) Identity Cards

 

"Data collection will be started at 16 years of age, when a file is created the first entry is free of charge, the parent of the citizen will be responsible for providing all details for the child at that stage, at 18 years of age the person in question must update their details themselves via a form (or via the internet) which can be provided by their local council. Should the child have no parents then the next closest family member will be able to submit a form on the child's behalf (providing ID to prove their relation to the child). These ID cards can be used as identification when opening bank accounts and as such, the system prevent that person from opening the account or using the card as ID for credit in any form whilst the details remain incorrect. If a child has no family at all to provide the form they will be able to visit their local jobcentre of council who can assign a case worker who will be able to update their details. For children under 18 who have no family or next of kin, ordering a new ID card shall be free. Changing details on your ID card shall remain free but providing a new card will be at a charge".

 

"Information included on the ID card itself will be:

 

Full Name

Date of birth

Current registered address

Reference number linked to that person's ID file

Valid from and Expiry dates"

 

 

3) Crime

 

"If the honourable member is referring to home security, there are many home security systems that citizens are able to purchase and install themselves. Should the honourable member be referring to services such as the police, my plan is to increase the numbers of police in every area as they are currently struggling to cope with all emergencies due to small force sizes, all current community support officers, who I regard to be close to useless as a job role, shall be trained to become full force members free of charge".

 

 

4) Defence

 

"Regarding Trident submarines, we cannot justify spending £20bn to update a submarine to extend it's life by only 5 years, a new system will be developed to deploy the trident missiles at a greatly reduced cost without the need for the submarines, in short, the missiles will stay, the most of the submarines will not, all the remaining submarines will be phased out as soon as a new deployment system is active"

Edited March 21, 2010 by DoomPriestKano

[patrickq1]

DNA DATABASE FOR SALE TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY WHO PAYS ME MOST MONEY ROLL UP ROLL UP INSURANCE COMPANY IE ATOS ORIGON who hold the biggest data base in the uk NEXT TO EXPERIAN your data will eventually be sold to insurance giants therefore making it impossible for certain families and individuals from ever getting adequate cover because of past family history ....cancer victims families being made to pay higher premiums because the risk factor is too great....beleive me this data is already out there especially with Atos Origon who are a subsidary of a certain giant insurance company....no restrictions have been placed on this company so data transaction we are unaware of is already taking place....BIG BROTHER beware we are watching you

[Jimbo-Jones]

all this blood dude why dont we just emply a few draculas for good measure,if i wanna give blood then it will be my free choice not by a draconian law ,i am a free man ,i would strongly object to BIG BROTHER next we will have to fix up webcams in our houses so that goverment can keep a tight reign on us ...

 

 

I think you have missed the part where it is for serving personnel only to give blood not the general public

 

The benefits are

 

1. Donors would be in peak physical fitness so would not feel the effects of loosing the 1 pint of blood donated as much as Joe blogs in civvy street.

 

2. You know that the blood donated is going to be clean from Disease/virals

 

3. Currently Blood required for Military hospitals comes from the national blood bank and the NHS this way we are not a drain on the NHS and can give back all the surplus. Another benefit to the amount of money spent on the Military by the tax payer this is something we can give back that has a measurable cost which can be offset when requesting budgets.

 

Not quite sure what the whole webcam government reign has to do with this.

 

As an ex-member of the RAF I have had to give blood a few times in a battlefield environment when it has been needed in one case it was a Doctor in a battlefield hospital in Afghanistan called out "I need anyone who has A+ blood to give a donation or we will likely loose this soldiers life."

 

I believe that most people within the armed forces that have been in hostile envirnments would have little or no issue with donating blood to ensure the survival of their friends and comrades in service nor with the surplus being given to the NHS.

[DoomPriestKano]

all this blood dude why dont we just emply a few draculas for good measure,if i wanna give blood then it will be my free choice not by a draconian law ,i am a free man ,i would strongly object to BIG BROTHER next we will have to fix up webcams in our houses so that goverment can keep a tight reign on us ...

 

 

 

"I would ask the honourable member of the house what, exactly he has to hide which would make him hesitant to join the national DNA database. The DNA database can be used by forces such as the police to identify if a person has committed a crime, I fail to see why this is such a disagreeable prospect for him".

[DoomPriestKano]

DNA DATABASE FOR SALE TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY WHO PAYS ME MOST MONEY ROLL UP ROLL UP INSURANCE COMPANY IE ATOS ORIGON who hold the biggest data base in the uk NEXT TO EXPERIAN your data will eventually be sold to insurance giants therefore making it impossible for certain families and individuals from ever getting adequate cover because of past family history ....cancer victims families being made to pay higher premiums because the risk factor is too great....beleive me this data is already out there especially with Atos Origon who are a subsidary of a certain giant insurance company....no restrictions have been placed on this company so data transaction we are unaware of is already taking place....BIG BROTHER beware we are watching you

 

"I would like the honourable member to explain exactly how someone would take what is effectively millions of peoples DNA records, and sell them to the highest bidder whilst bypassing the wealth of top security which would be employed to protect said data. I also ask for an explination of why an insurance company should, in their right minds, give life insurance to someone who's family has a chronic history of disease and complications, if all such insurance companies did not screen said customers every insurance company in the world would likely be bankrupt".

[The GodMother]

I thank the honourable member for those comments, and in response:

 

 

1) DNA Database

 

"Should a citizen visit a doctor, hospital, or any other medical institution the practitioner they meet with shall access the DNA database during the appointment and check the last date the citizens details were updated, if this date is over 6 months the citizen must update those details during the appointment, it shall be a criminal offence to knowingly provide inacurate information and should the citizen refuse to update these details then treatment will be refused, in the case of emergency the citizen will be treated before details are confirmed. Should the citizen have no fixed address they must provide all information available and residence status shall be marked as unstable until a fixed address is available to update. These details should take no longer than 10 minutes to update so time should not be a major factor".

 

"In regards to those citizens who have passed away, a note will be placed on their file stating where they currently rest, in the case of any other method such as cremation, the address of the institution who carried out the cremation will be noted, the file will then be digitally archived allowing easy access to that file should there be a need to do so. After a period of 10 years, the file will be deleted entirely from the national database".

 

"People who find themselves in an incorrect blood group can have their details updated free of charge by submitting a small form available from their local council, this will also require another form to be attached from a doctor stating that they have confirmed the citizen is currently in an incorrect group".

 

"In addition to this, the undersecretary of state's comments are also valid actions we will be persuing in support".

 

 

2) Identity Cards

 

"Data collection will be started at 16 years of age, when a file is created the first entry is free of charge, the parent of the citizen will be responsible for providing all details for the child at that stage, at 18 years of age the person in question must update their details themselves via a form (or via the internet) which can be provided by their local council. Should the child have no parents then the next closest family member will be able to submit a form on the child's behalf (providing ID to prove their relation to the child). These ID cards can be used as identification when opening bank accounts and as such, the system prevent that person from opening the account or using the card as ID for credit in any form whilst the details remain incorrect. If a child has no family at all to provide the form they will be able to visit their local jobcentre of council who can assign a case worker who will be able to update their details. For children under 18 who have no family or next of kin, ordering a new ID card shall be free. Changing details on your ID card shall remain free but providing a new card will be at a charge".

 

"Information included on the ID card itself will be:

 

Full Name

Date of birth

Current registered address

Reference number linked to that person's ID file

Valid from and Expiry dates"

 

 

3) Crime

 

"If the honourable member is referring to home security, there are many home security systems that citizens are able to purchase and install themselves. Should the honourable member be referring to services such as the police, my plan is to increase the numbers of police in every area as they are currently struggling to cope with all emergencies due to small force sizes, all current community support officers, who I regard to be close to useless as a job role, shall be trained to become full force members free of charge".

 

 

4) Defence

 

"Regarding Trident submarines, we cannot justify spending £20bn to update a submarine to extend it's life by only 5 years, a new system will be developed to deploy the trident missiles at a greatly reduced cost without the need for the submarines, in short, the missiles will stay, the most of the submarines will not, all the remaining submarines will be phased out as soon as a new deployment system is active"

 

 

Leader of the opersition.

 

Thank you for your response but l notice that you have managed answered in a non relivant way but whats new.

 

1) DNA database.

 

You have stated:-

"Should a citizen visit a doctor, hospital, or any other medical institution the practitioner they meet with shall access the DNA database during the appointment and check the last date the citizens details were updated, if this date is over 6 months the citizen must update those details during the appointment, it shall be a criminal offence to knowingly provide inacurate information and should the citizen refuse to update these details then treatment will be refused, in the case of emergency the citizen will be treated before details are confirmed. Should the citizen have no fixed address they must provide all information available and residence status shall be marked as unstable until a fixed address is available to update. These details should take no longer than 10 minutes to update so time should not be a major factor".

 

I am assuming you will be making Drs, nurses or other practisioner work longer hours. If the update should take no longer than 10 minutes then when booking appointment via the telephone in the morning for a 5 minute appointment system we currently have set up in my consituanty would need to be made into a 15 minute phone in the morning appointment or even the amount of patients that need seeing be reduced.

 

I would like to point out that this is not a isolated booking system all appointments at ALL drs surgeries in my constiancy and sorrunding area of about 10 miles have to same system, I have even chacked and the local neighbouring health authorie has the same system for most of there Drs surgeries, for a DR need booking between the hours of 8 am and 9am and you only get a 5 minute appointment.

Most of these appointments are taken within 10 minute as proved to me when i tried to get my 21 month old daughter in to see the Dr EVERY DAY last week. I was on the phone constatnly redialing from 8am and when i eventually spoke to one of the secetaries at 8.07am the appointments were all taken for the whole day. I ended up having to take my 21 month old daughter to A+e for a ear infection. I explained that by 8.07 am every morning of that week the Drs surgery had been full and as result l had no choice but to have her attend A+E due to serious high fever and severe risk of fevrial convolusion.

 

The A+e Dr did moan but has said that we dont have a adequate system for bookings and feel that this does need changing.

 

Also l would like to point out to the Prime minister that most of the time there is no Dr in surgeries and that Nurses are only available. During this time should a patient need a prescription then the prescription can not be issued due to there being No Dr or Nurse that is qualified to issue a prescription available. The Drs surgeries in my Constuienty, and 10 mile area, are open from 8am to 8pm but Drs are only on site from 10am to 1pm then 2 pm till 3pm and 4pm to 6pm. Nurses are only available between the hours of 9am and 1pm then 2pm to 4.30 pm. Please note surgery closes for lunch between 1pm and 2pm.

 

So out of the 11 hours a surgery is open there is only a Dr on site for a maximum of 7 hours and a nurse on site for 6.5 hours a day. by my caluulations this is a deficet of 4 hours a day for Drs and 4.5 hours a day for nurses. The surgery being open this long with no members of staff available to give the patients the assistance they need is a waste of NHS reasource.

 

Re deceased voters. How long will it take for the system to be updated to say you had died? I would assume that a Dr could do this or would you require a death Certificate and form filled out then sent to a different place.

 

Obviously we need to be careful when it comes to listing a person as dead so this can not be open to abuse but if the database is going to be accessed re the patient in relation to medical records basics, as in the system that is being rolled out to one system for relivant details about your medical history, tablets and next of kin etc then will the Dr be able to change more than Name Addy etc as you have stated in my question to the DNA database.

 

2) the identity cards.

 

May i suggest that maybe other relivant info needs to be placed on these important cards.

 

a) next of kin information should the need for this info come up.

 

b) a barcode that is scan able. This will obviously help with crime and medical records so that should there be a need for your identity to be valified for medical or riminal reasons then the police or emergancy staff will be able to scan the barcode to acess important information as in if you have allergies to certain drugs that might be used to save you life or medical needs, long term illnesses and current medications. The barcode could be scanned and you get a digital picture of what the person looks like should you suspect they are not telling the truth or even know they are using a wrong name etc. I would advise the use of the new fingerprint scanners that some police forces are currently testing could be used for this purpose.

[patrickq1]

why dont we just have a stazzi party ,dna forgot to re new my dna file I AM NOW A CRIMMINAL.....oh dear,

perhaps i shall go to isreal they do make some great forgeries....id cards with chip for you to be identified walking around town.....snatch squad waiting at every corner OK DUDE WHERE'S YOUR ID oops forgot to leave home without it I AM NOW A CRIMMINAL......oooops