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good morning Bankfodder.

 

My claim will not be under five thousand, so that removes the small claim application

 

The money claimed are

 

1. Value of the car taken.

 

2.Cost of new engine and money spent on car.in the 6 month up to them taking lot.

 

3. Taxi fare for getting to appointments (work) and to shops etc

 

4.Money to put a replacement car on the road and the hire of car. this is an on going bill. The hire will stop on the day that I have replaced my car.

 

The total to date is around £1300 This figure has to be left open because of the hire cost.

 

I would put my claim as a fast track case because it is not a fixed cost.

 

The I would ask courts for compensation for destress.

 

Does the fact that it is a fast track application change any of the details sett out in the small claims guide please advice

 

Thanks

 

The amount claimed

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Hi Guys,

 

I have a very important question that could affect many court applications.

Has anyone gained judgment after their car has been sold. Have LBL paid the money owed.

 

Please can anyone find this out. But it has to be a recent hearing.

Im looking to see if they have the means to pay.

Hpow would I find out if they have got money.

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Sorry for second post here but this is important I need to no if I win will I be paid.

Has anyone recently had cost awarded and did they pay the costs

 

i am also in court soon with lbl. but my solicitor has spoken to a guy in london who won but to date has had nothing. as far as lbl they keep changing names and never pay anything. this info may also help you in court. here are some company house reg numbers. all of which belong to lbl.

Company No. 04286387

Company No. 04152421

Company No. 03636230

Company No. 05043147

Company No. 04987334

 

this has got to be the biggest fraud company ever. why are they allowed to trade.

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Hi SITE TEAM,

 

We have a big problem that till now has not been looked into. We are all concerned about getting some form of Judgment on LBL.

Brill if we do but how do we enforce this to get our money back.

We need some serious advice on what can be done

No good having Judgment if its worth nothing

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High all victims it's important that any judgment order includes ALL of their companies ........ including certain named individuals & addresses.

 

Those already in court should advise their legal reps of this asap

 

Don't assume that because their paperwork names certain individuals it's correct it may not be ;)

 

I'm (or rather someone else is:D) organizing a list which I'll let everyone have very soon

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Hi Guys,

 

Can any body please point me in the right direction for making a claim under restituional damages from my unlawful bank charges.

I have already asked the FOS they seem to not have any form of understanding of this at all.

They seem to think that its to do with the interest on the charges.

Is the any letter that has already been formed to do the request.

 

many thanks

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Hi guys

 

Can any one help me,

 

I am trying to find case I can use to make ref to with my claim for compensation against LBL for not just the cost of the car but the money spent on the car ie engine Alloys stereo sub amp body work done basically things I had spent on car but not had the opportunity to enjoy.

I have to get the claim ref right or I will not get the correct claim amount.

 

Thanks.

 

We have the Trail date first week January. I cant wait

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Hi Nicky,

Why do you need another case to refer too, you have receipts for expenditure spent on car, no?

 

In any event, if they have in mind to settle, and they generally don't until they are forced to, generally by cost implications, or an impactive judgment that would make a precedent ruling opening the floodgates for others.

 

They will simply obtain a CAP valuation, giving them the retail valuation of your make and model of vehicle, trade and disposal values of vehicles with a similar mileage and base any offering on that.

They will quote you " As you may be aware CAP is used as the industry benchmark for used car disposal values and provides the latest used car market values drawn from analysis of recent disposals data, including approximately 1.5 million transactions per year from all sectors of the motor industry.They may or may not accept some additional value for the other works done on the car and make a commercial offering.

 

You will than decide if you want to accept or decline.

 

Any evidence that shows real material loss, or expenditure spent like taxi fare receipts, or any other necessary expenditure laid out as a consequence of being without vehicle, will substantiate any claim on your behalf.

 

Don't forget, once a car was purchased by yourself, you personally, would have mitigated any further loss etc.

 

So gather all supporting evidence and present it to them with an offer for them to be commercial and settle.

 

Otherwise, this could drag on, only for the judge to direct that you both have further time to settle or he will penalise either or both parties for being obstructive.

 

Again, just my penny's worth with the usual caveats.

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