again hip hop you are having a go at us again so i will tell you what we are going to do this is are last post because we put a lot of time and our own money into helping others on here and all as you want to do is fight with us on posts that do not have anything to do with you. august we won a case in court. if logbook loans do loans at a home or on the street then they are void ............... logbook loans DO NOT have a licence to trade out of a licenced office so they CAN not trade outside of cashconverters/mobile money . it is called a cold call licence to which they do not have. so go on hip-hop call use anything you like

Hip-Hop ims knows who we are to well ok. as i am shure he will tell you. ims has a bill of sale with nine regions ltd ...... he has been paying logbook loans ltd. same directors but two differant companies. by law a bill of sale is none transferable. so logbook loans ltd must have been given the loan by nine regions ltd ....... which ims and i know they did. ims i think we need to go back to court with them ... Hip-hop. Originally Posted by Nicky Bodmin CCTV seems to be all talk on this subject but when it comes down to showing what he has got then where is he. I have spoken to Julietta about his so called case and she is as blind to his case as we are. Who US he has anyone been given supported evidence of what he has said. You couldn't make this **** up. we have given details out as IMS will tell you. Julietta will not give out any information or court cases without our written consent as IMS will back us up on.

Hi nicky. you have been off for a long time. the photo of the car outside your home is a problem for lbl. it just cant happen. you need to see the real photo it should give were the lone location was taken ................ plus you need to know were the loan was signed. if everything was done outside or inside your home then both bill of sale and CA is void.

Hi stressedlady. the next step is to get a copy of the bill of sale. but with you not being the loan owner you will not have the details to apply to the supreme court. with being a 3rd party you will have no details at all. for around £100 you can have a solicitor send letters. 1 to the repo company asking to leave you alone and another to lbl requesting there interest in your car along with a copy of the bill of sale. why i say to use a solicitor is for two good reasons. lbl must reply to your solicitors request. and it will also stop lbl from reporting the car as stolen. which will be lbl next step if the repo guys cant get your car. so when the police call you just direct them to your solicitor. the next step now is for us to see your bill of sale for the car.

a simple google ............. ok i have done it for you. but i dont understand why you should need it as it has nothing to do with your problem. you are either fighting lbl for your loan or your going to start your own fight against what licence they have or not. http://www.oft.gov.uk/business-advice/offering-credit/ also when people ask for info i pm it to them ...........so please dont think we have not answered there post.

Hip-hop again you just want to fight . i dont understand it. i wish a team leader would switch you off or just leave our posts alone. we have contacted THFC1960. and we will call THFC1960 tomorrow.

Hi. stressedlady. good idea to hide your car. just remember the repo **** will try to follow you. so keep a good eye out. can you let us know what area you bought the car from. and how long have you had it for.

Hi THfc1960 i will pm you contact details.

Hip -Hop. why why do you need the feel to fight all the time. you are like a little kid. this thread has nothing to do with your problems why are you hindering others from getting info. it would be best if you just did your thing but dont question our advice. you have been doing it for a few months jeff has been dealing with bos for 27 years. he has helped others on here and Hip-hop he never charged any of them a pennie. now you are putting that good faith from jeff into question as to why he sould even carry on he his here to help not fight with you.

like i have said to you in reply to your email . our solicitor who has delt with bill of sales since 1983 does know what he his talking about and when he sees a case on here he will act. 5 members he has contacted and have won. lets take stubs you havent seen the outcome on the forum thats all done and dusted. trooper has had a judgment sent to him by me. and i have it here which is the same case as THFC 1960 and we are giving good info.

THFC 1960. it would be far far better to get a managers statement from your bank to whom you have been paying. that was my advice. yes you can just google the info like others say. but the courts will want facts not just printed google pages. and a statement from your bank is fact. Hip-hop. you know nothing of the court case with oft and logbook loans. we do we are witnesses in the case. you keep asking us to post findings and cases. with the case in a few weeks that would be stupid of us to do that on a open forum as lbl monitor it.

ask your bank. who is logbook loans .co.uk that is showing on your statements. who is the company

if the bill of sales are by differant loan companies then only the first bill of sale stands. and another thing to remember is its life time which is 5 years.

logbookloans.co.uk is on your bank statments. the domain name belongs to logbook loans ltd. this is who you are paying. you dont have a bill of sale with logbook loans ltd you have a bill of sale with nine regions ltd, you are dealing with too companys. you are paying logbook loans ltd and another company holds your bill of sale and your CA aggrement i.e nine regions ltd. if (dont do this) if you stopped payments now who would repo your car ??? it cant be logbook loans ltd (who you are paying) you dont have a bill of sale or a CA with them (its all in nine regions ltd name)

Hi lefty. i would like to look over the bill of sale . the CA repossession does not cover a bill of sale. if the car belongs to the loan owner and was at the address of which was stated on the bill of sale then they would not need a court order to remove the car. this is term 8 of the bill of sale.

Hi what do you mean by done outside a shop ???.

Hi. you need to look at every bit of paperwork google everything. all your paperwork is logbookloans.co.uk. look who the ip address belongs to. Domain name: logbookloans.co.uk Registrant: Richard Cook Trading as: Log Book Loans Ltd Registrant type: UK Limited Company, (Company number: 3636230) Registrant's address: Bridge Studios 34a Deodar Road London SW15 2NN United Kingdom company reg number from above. Name & Registered Office: LOG BOOK LOANS LIMITED BRIDGE STUDIOS 34A DEODAR ROAD PUTNEY LONDON SW15 2NN Company No. 03636230 Status: Active Date of Incorporation: 22/09/1998 Country of Origin: United Kingdom Company Type: Private Limited Company Nature of Business (SIC(03)): 6522 - Other credit granting 7414 - Business & management consultancy Accounting Reference Date: 31/08 Last Accounts Made Up To: 31/08/2009 (TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL) Next Accounts Due: 31/05/2011 Last Return Made Up To: 22/09/2009 Next Return Due: 20/10/2010 OVERDUE clear and simple you are dealing with two companys. http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/general/oft1104.pdf

Hi THFC1960. nice to see you have done some homework. you are right both companys do not have a laudering licence. and we have won cars back. now it is important to look at every bit of paperwork you have and check all company reg numbers at the bottom of every letter. look at your bill of sale it will most likely say nine regions ltd. and your bank will give you details of the company account that you have been paying for the loan. and it will be logbook loans ltd. in which case you have defaulted on your bill of sale since day 1 because it is with nine regions ltd. you will need a solicitor to send a letter to nine regions ltd asking how this can be (dont send the letter yourself) they must reply to your solicitor.

one thing you do need to take into account. yes they can sell your car though auction but without a logbook it will be sold as scrap ........ not saying your car is scrap its how auctions sell cars with no LB. and this will reflect on the price they get for it and you will also have to pay the short fall. and if someone buys your car from the auction it only costs £19 for a new logbook. logbook loans dont hold LBs

Hip_hop. if you think your bill of sale is not right i would see a solicitor. you have done alot of work but what i can see is your are only reading things that you think will help you and not the true act. point 1. a solicitor who signs off a bill of sale Must be licenced by the crown. to do bill of sales. agents can witness bill of sales (on your paperwork you will see he has put his name and personal address) this make him a witness. if you are going to fight that your bill of sale is not valid then have it checked first. how much of your loan is outstanding ???? and you have a judgement and your car back ....... i would now hide it........... logbook will do everything right next time

Hi nikikitch. i have pm you. hope you understand.

if you are both reading the amendments of the bill of sale act 1878. then yes you are both correct. but at that time a solicitor had to be present on the signing. so on the day it was being signed as a true document making it affective from that date. a bill of sale is nothing until it has been signed by a solicitor. so again it is from the solicitor to redgistration in court. please see bill of sale act 1925. and not 1878. and this is why you will never see a case on out of date reg of a bill of sale. now hip-hop if you dont think this is right i will put you intouch with a guy who has been dealing with bill of sales in court since 1983.

sleepingdog. DO NOT PAY THEM> it is not up to lbl or ts or oft to tell you to pay this is only if a court say so ............ it is not your dept. and i will tell you its in your interest to hide the car. .... just let you problem flow let them take you to court. and another thing once a car has passed though a car dealers hands that kills a bill of sale. before you give up see a solicitor

Phelo. you will need to go back to your solicitor. and get him to ask for the return of your car or were it is. phelo in your posts you say the police took your car. if this is not the case and it was lbl then your car has gone they would have sold it 5 days after they took it. you need to talk with your solicitor. your solicitor must have contacted lbl at some stage. what was the outcome of that ???

boocoo. your friends problem has gone on too long so before i give you any info please answer some questions. 1, how has your friend got away with it for so long. (your first post was well over 12 months ago) this cant happen he must have had been asked to go to court in that time. 2, why have you not posted the bos or CA for anyone to check. your friend case has been going for 16 months ...... its not the bill of sale you need to be fighting your friend case in that time would have gone to court so i think your friend will find is the courts he needs to answer too not lbl. a judgement would have been made your case is to old.