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    • Ok, I don't necessarily want to re-open my old thread but I've seen a number of such threads with regards to CCJ's and want to ask a fairly general consensus on the subject. My original CCJ is 7 years old now and has had 2/3 owners for the debt over the years since with varying level of contact.  Up to last summer they had attempted a charging order on a shared mortgage I'm named on which I defended that action and tried to negotiate with them to the point they withdrew the charging order application pending negotiations which we never came to an agreement over.  However, after a number of communication I heard nothing back since last Autumn barring an annual generic statement early this year despite multiple messages to them since at the time.  at a loss as to why the sudden loss of response from them. Then something came through from this site at random yesterday whilst out that I can't find now with regards to CCJ's to read over again.  Now here is the thing, I get how CCJ's don't expire as such, but I've been reading through threads and Google since this morning and a little confused.  CCJ's don't expire but can be effectively statute barred after 6 years (when in my case was just before I last heard of the creditor) if they are neither enforced in that time or they apply to the court within the 6 years of issue to extend the CCJ and that after 6 years they can't really without great difficulty or explanation apply for a CCJ extension after of the original CCJ?.  Is this actually correct as I've read various sources on Google and threads that suggest there is something to this?.
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What members on here have to understand is that these forums are monitored. Now let us be honest....... somebody puts up a scan, covers the name and address and the reference BUT leaves the name of the bank or the name of the solicitor etc......... then they leave the amount claimed.

 

So simple logic. X bank has been referred to. They check who owes (let us say) £12,0354.11p (a unique figure which to find one the same will be I would say 1 in one trillion) and bingo. They know what is being asked, what the reply is to be expected, they can work out the IQ of the person involved (how a post is made, the english, there are a lot of things that give a game away).

 

You aint got a chance. The "brief" (barrister) will be told all of this so he can run you round his little finger. Solicitor rules of conduct state that a solicitor CANNOT mislead the court. So most judges will believe "him/her" and not "you". In my experience, most judges also are in favour of banks and institutions and against the "man in the street". They look at you as "the person trying to get out of a contractual agreement".

 

Read your "story". Understand it. Read the draft letters. Understand them. Jeez if you read McGuffick v RBS the letter sent for the s.77 application is the same as on here!!!! Read the posts on here. Read AND MOST OF ALL understand the CCA1974. Read the case law referred to. Read them again. See which parts of the Act and of the case law referred to apply to you. Most of all, stop trying to take the easy route. i.e. I post a question. I get a reply quoted letter and I just cut and paste. Most probably they have read it and will be expecting it.

 

IF you are not capable of "the fight" then arrange a monthly minimal payment. Look at all the pros and cons. Look at every angle.

 

Most of all, after having read the caselaw, the cases they will use, the Act etc try and make a statement for court which will show that they have no reasonable prospect of success and make them discontinue.

 

p.s. Just some advise

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well i can only speak from my limited experience and it was good, the judges were firmly in my favour in all 4 cases that i had go to court

 

mostly because they were the claimants , they were the professional institutions yet a total newbie like me (the defendant) with the help and advice on here was able to easily hold my own because they were not aware or showed total disregard for basic consumer law and best practice

 

the impression i got was that the judges were sick to the back teeth of these DCAs and their dubious practices

 

i got this feeling in my last case when the judge tore a strip of their rent a lawyer over poor POC and winked at me while she tried to bumble her way through the CPR rules and directions book

 

remember , they have thousands of claims to work on every day and its all a numbers game to them

you only have your own case and its yours , do your homework and you cant lose

 

just my take on it

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Or wait, sit tight and see if they take action. If they have an easy target they are much more likely to issue and then it is up to you to defend or make an offer accordingly.

 

Very good advice on here is NEVER be the claimant, leave it to the other side!

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Hmmnnn, never be claimant on the less clear CCA and unenforceability issues. The CCA was setup to protect so it has little that can be used to 'attack'. CPUTR has a little bit more.

 

When talking about reclaiming refunds of credit card/loan/mortgage arrears fees and charges though, this advice changes.

The matrix is intrinsically flawed. Within it is the program for it's own destruction. If you are reading this, you are in the matrix and it's days are numbered...so watch out! :eek:

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What members on here have to understand is that these forums are monitored. Now let us be honest....... somebody puts up a scan, covers the name and address and the reference BUT leaves the name of the bank or the name of the solicitor etc......... then they leave the amount claimed.

 

So simple logic. X bank has been referred to. They check who owes (let us say) £12,0354.11p (a unique figure which to find one the same will be I would say 1 in one trillion) and bingo. They know what is being asked, what the reply is to be expected, they can work out the IQ of the person involved (how a post is made, the english, there are a lot of things that give a game away).

 

You aint got a chance. The "brief" (barrister) will be told all of this so he can run you round his little finger. Solicitor rules of conduct state that a solicitor CANNOT mislead the court. So most judges will believe "him/her" and not "you". In my experience, most judges also are in favour of banks and institutions and against the "man in the street". They look at you as "the person trying to get out of a contractual agreement".

 

Read your "story". Understand it. Read the draft letters. Understand them. Jeez if you read McGuffick v RBS the letter sent for the s.77 application is the same as on here!!!! Read the posts on here. Read AND MOST OF ALL understand the CCA1974. Read the case law referred to. Read them again. See which parts of the Act and of the case law referred to apply to you. Most of all, stop trying to take the easy route. i.e. I post a question. I get a reply quoted letter and I just cut and paste. Most probably they have read it and will be expecting it.

 

IF you are not capable of "the fight" then arrange a monthly minimal payment. Look at all the pros and cons. Look at every angle.

 

Most of all, after having read the caselaw, the cases they will use, the Act etc try and make a statement for court which will show that they have no reasonable prospect of success and make them discontinue.

 

p.s. Just some advise

 

And it is amongst the best advice I have read here for a while.

 

The ONLY template letter anyone should use is the s78 request. After that you should have a reasonable idea of what you are doing and formulate your own response letters. If you can't then you have a lot of reading to do!!!

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Of course, a clever poster could lead a litigious creditor on a merry dance if they were to let slip they frequented this site and made themselves identifiable ;)

 

They'd have a job on their hands, although as I know for a fact that at least one DCA employs someone to frequent these forums on a daily basis..... it does pay to keep your wits about you if you don't wish to be identified.

 

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I havent read the thread but were any of the people in this case forum members? What were their thoughts on this outcome?

 

Not to my knowledge..... although it stands to reason they could have been. Sometimes knowledge can be a dangerous thing and in these cases, it was open to far too much interpretation by greedy consumers who should have done their homework more thoroughly.

 

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