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Thanks John, your a star!

 

They seem to be replying very quickly at the moment, must not have much to do!

 

I agree... work it out on a spreadsheet and then post it here so we can advise etc...

 

With an N252 you need to pitch your costs in just right so that it makes paying them seem more attractive than putting you through a costs assessment ;-)

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Spot on advice from VJ & Donkey as usual :-)

 

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Hi guys!

 

Been mental trying to sort this costing out, anyhoo, is now done and attached.

 

Could some of ya'll have a look for me please and see if it looks ok to send?

 

Now with the N252, do I use the original claim number, but we are now the claimant? It also says at the start of the form :-

 

Following an.....and then insert what happened, not sure how to title ours, notice of discontiuance?

 

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Hi guys!

 

Been mental trying to sort this costing out, anyhoo, is now done and attached.

 

Could some of ya'll have a look for me please and see if it looks ok to send?

 

Now with the N252, do I use the original claim number, but we are now the claimant? It also says at the start of the form :-

 

Following an.....and then insert what happened, not sure how to title ours, notice of discontiuance?

 

Cheers

 

E!

 

Numbers don't add up e.g. row 5 49 miles and 2 hrs => 49 * 0.40 + (2*9.25) = 38.10 not 40.85 as you put

 

give me 24 hrs and I will sort your worksheet into a proper one using Excel to do the calcs for you. will only take 10 mins but really bsy today

 

yes to teh discontinuance of claim thing

 

same claim number and you are still teh defendant

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there, the sums add up now and you can change the numbers and it will auto update

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Thanks gh, said it before, and ill say it again, you are a star!

 

So the descriptions I have put to account for the time is ok? Dont really think I need any more information than that!

 

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Printed the excel sheet out today but it wouldnt all fit on the page width wise, so came out on 4 sheets that you seem to have to hold together, anyone know how I can get it all on the pages width wise?

 

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which excel are you using?

it's all under print setup - you can limit the number of pages you want it on and it will scale appropriately.

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don't leave it blank - just sign with a different sig - OR use the digital sig that it advertised under you name sometimes (which is what I do for ALL my letters now - then they either get emailed faxed or printed and I don't have to remember to sign them :_)

 

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Hi guys,

 

Waiting to hear now, I would ask what is likeley to happen but there is no tellings with this lot, probably letter back saying we cant do an N252!

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