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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Hi,

 

Ok this may be a long storey but i would really epreciate any help and advice from anyone.

On the 1st March this year we rented a home from a couple who were getting into the property game,Me,My wife and 3 kids all moved to the property on the above date,the deposit and a months rent in advance was paid and everything was signed by the landlady.3 months down the line the landlady and her boy friend split up.the landlady wants her house back,a section 21 was served and expired on the 1st September we later found out that the deposit was not paid in to the goverment protection scheme,we found out that the landlady was going for an accelerated eviction,our solicitor told us that she could not do it as she has not paid the bond money into the scheme and the landlady could be prosecuted for purgery.anyway we got a letter from the courts telling us what has happened and this morning we received an eviction notice from the court,we explained the situation to the judge on the reply forms about the non payment of the bond money,anyhow the judge has went in favour of the landlady as she has told the courts that it was her boyfriend who took all the money and sorted everything out for the tennancy,i now have 4 weeks from the day to find a property and the local council are not very helpful.

I would really epreciate any help or advice on this as me and the wife are very close to the breaking point.

Many Thanks

Michael.

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Blimey, someone found a sympathetic judge! Unfortunately because you were not in court theres no knowing what evidence she presented or said so cant comment on it.

 

Seriously you need to be done the council re-housing department tomorrow with the Possesion Order. Now thats been granted they have to take notice, they will tell you to stay there as at the end of the 4 weeks she cant just turn up and change the lock. She has to go back to court and get an order for the bailiffs to evict you. But in my experience the council will usually rehouse you well before this.

 

The deposit situation is now a seperate issue, and despite the court judgement you may still be able to sue for this.

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This judge did not know what he/she was doing. A s.21 notice is invalid if the deposit has not been protected. It should not matter what the LL said in court. The notice itself was not correct.

 

It is also totally ridiculous to say it is ok for her not to comply with the legislation regarding deposit protection because she has a rotten boyfriend!!

 

This whole thing makes the English legal system look stupid!! It is a disgrace. Unbelievable! (Sorry - very cross about your situation!)

 

As Emma says, the process of eviction takes time and LL has to go back to the court to get the order enforced. Hopefully the council will have helped you out by then, but in the meantime it would not hurt to have a chat with Shelter who have a great deal of experience in these matters.

 

The other matter of course is the unprotected deposit. I suggest you write to each of the 3 deposit protection schemes and check that your deposit was not protected. (They will write back, so you will then have written evidence that it was not.)

 

I would say you should then sue her for the deposit + 3xdeposit, BUT, these claims are no longer being treated as small claims and therefore you could, if you lose, be liable for considerable costs. Whilst I think you have an open and shut case, I think you have enough on your plate at the moment without adding to your problems. However, once you are settled, and if your deposit has not been returned to you, you might think about going ahead.

 

In the meantime - you don't say if you have actually received the deposit back. Assuming not, write to LL and say that unless you receive your deposit in full within the next [7] days you will sue her for deposit +3xdeposit for non-compliance with the deposit protection legislation. Hopefully this will prompt her to return it. If not, come back to us and we will try and help.

Kentish Lass

Information given is based on my knowledge and experience and is not to be considered as legal advice

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The landlord has always stated that our deposit will be returned when we leave the property,we have advised her that we can claim compensation fron her as she stated that her solicitor has told her that will be dealt with at a later date!!

The letter of eviction from the court also states that she is not really entitled to repay me the deposit as her ex boyfriend took control of all the money.I also received a copy of the letter sent to the court by our landlord and basically it is a whole load of lies stating that we never paid the deposit to her and it was paid to the boy friend(which it wasnt).She had signed the tennancy agreement when i handed her the money.What really annoys me and the wife is that the law is there to protect us as tennants and this so called district judge has totally over ruled that law and seems to of taken pitty on this woman,so why on earth was this law introduced?It now seems as though all my neighbours are against me and my family as none of them speak now and other children in the street are saying to my children that we are supposed to of been moved out by now.I have the option to see my solicitor again to fight this case but is it worth the extra expence to just delay it for a couple of months,i will need my money for when i do move and christmas is just around the corner.

Tomorrow we will contact the court and ask to see this district judge for an explanation on his decision,wether thats allowed or not but i feel that im owed an explanation at least.

The local council use a banding scheme but there is not very many houses available in my area.

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This is all such nonsense. The owner of the house is the Landlord. It is the Landlord's responsibility to ensure that the deposit is protected. There are many Landlord's who are now having problems because their letting agents who were supposed to have protected the deposits have gone bankrupt or disappeared with the money but the law says it is the Landlord's responsibility and so it is. How can this judge talk such rubbish!! I simply do not understand how you can be made homeless and told you can't have your deposit back because the landlord has a lousy taste in men!!

 

Please, go and talk to Shelter. They have lawyers there who may be able to help you. I don't know if you can just go and see the judge. If you do get to see him, make sure you have every piece of evidence you can to prove your case and keep calm and do not lose your temper, even though you may feel you have a grievance. Did you pay the deposit by cheque? Perhaps you have your bank statement?

 

I really wish I could be of more help to you!

Kentish Lass

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The owner of the property who is the landlady and myself signed the contract.

we contacted Shelter today as as Kentonlass stated we should do(thanks for that),we explained the situation and they could not believe what was going on,we are now waiting for the specialist people in our area to contact us to arrange an appointment.We also contacted our local council who we are keeping them up too date and also they could not believe the situation.

We asked the court if we could make an appointment to speak to the judge but that was a no no.

I still would love to know why the judge proceeded with the eviction notice known fine well that the section 21 was invalid???

If the judge has made this decision can he reverse the decision or when you appeal does it go to the same judge or a different judge?

I will keep you updated on the situation as the days go on.

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Section 215 (1) of the Housing Act says:

 

If a tenancy deposit has been paid in connection with a shorthold tenancy, no section 21 notice may be given in relation to the tenancy at a time when—

(a) the deposit is not being held in accordance with an authorised scheme, or

(b) the initial requirements of such a scheme (see section 213(4)) have not been complied with in relation to the deposit.

 

The subsection is quite clear. If a deposit has been paid, it does not matter to whom, and has not been protected then no section 21 notice can be served until the deposit is protected. It seems the learned judge erred in the law.

 

Since I am not a litigator I am unsure how you can go about getting this put right. Obviously you can appeal, but you may be able to ask for the judgement to be put aside.

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I would like to know how you get on with this as my landlady has won a possession order even though I went to great lengths in providing what I thought was an iron clad defence in writing. I.E. No TDS notification, no gas certificate for two years, failure to respond to a report over 13 months without a hot water supply to sinks and bath (due to faulty heater), correspondance from her without full contact details, a separate deposit paid to her agent by cheque not mentioned in tenancy agreement.

I may have been stupid, but I am a fast learner ready to fight and what do I get (a Judge who doesn't read!) My fault again? I guess relying on the courts to know the law is not something us lay people should do. I have learnt my lesson, will be applying for a stay, apparently it will cost me £75 to do it. THis time I will turn up in person to explain!!!?? to the judge.

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Kathy - possession order via Section 21 or Section 8?

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Hi,Just an update on the situation.

 

After consulting shelter who could not assist us as we were not entitled to legal aid we have decided to let the landlord get away with it for now.The cost would just be too much for solicitors to proceed with this matter as we will need all our money for moving.The judge states i have to be out this week(friday) but we have no option to prolong it ie the bailiffs.

Last week my landlord gained access with my permission and she would like to gain access again this weekend between 9am and 2pm as she wants the gas man to service the heating.Are my able to tell her that she can only gain access once every 4 weeks or did i read that wrong somewhere else??? if its for the gas man then can i tell her to come back during normal working hours ie mon-fri???

Or can i tell her that she cant come in but the gas man is ok to gaib access??

I just cant wait til i move from this house as the whole situationis so depressing.

Thanks

Michael.

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