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    • statute barring in Scotland is 5yrs from last payment/use date or date of default Notice + 14 days, whichever is the later. dont confuse that with the 6yrs debts show on credit files (DN's 6th bday regardless to payment or not). they'd never get a claim raised by august in 99% of cases . as long all these debts were taken out whilst resident in scotland and you have not moved since taking them out but failed to inform the original creditor before the debt sale....... then stay radio silent until sb date is reached. then if you wish send our scottish sb letter. just remember unlike E&W in scotland debts are extinguished, dead , gone , parrot. once SB'd dx  
    • Hi all, Love this site and it's no nonsense advice, have dipped in and out of the consumer forums over the years, mostly to assure myself that what I was doing was the right thing when dealing with various businesses (almost 100% success rate, thanks in part to reading and more reading here.). Anyway, the time is almost approaching where I might need to ask for some specific help and I have a couple of queries that I can't see definitively answered. Due to financial mismanagement and severe anxiety issues I stopped paying all unsecured debt in December 2018 (one slipped to the first week in Jan 2019 when the last payment was made having rechecked my bank statement from that period - all my unsecured debt direct debits were cancelled in early Jan 2019). This has left half a dozen debts;  a couple of credit cards, a bank loan, Shop Direct and some Hitachi Finance stuff having been sold on and passing the rounds through the usual suspects, Lowells, Link, PRA Group, others related to them, and then back to them again. I have somehow successfully managed to maintain radio silence and avoided anything more worrying than their begging letters.  I have blocked their phone calls and texts, bumped all emails to the spambox and had a chuckle at their desperate letters.  I've never had anybody at the door.  I have been at the same address since before I defaulted and all correspondence comes to my current home address.  I have NEVER contacted them or admitted any debt. In anticipation of them perhaps ramping up action at the last minute I've had a look at my credit report on Credit Karma (rec'd from this very place) and I see that the default dates on these range from May 2019 to November 2019. Also in preperation I've been reading, reading and reading lots here as advised. Obviously being in Scotland there are a lot fewer posts relating to these matters and it's always quite annoying when OP's do not follow up with any outcome on their cases - how rude! This has also left me a bit confused of when I am able to finally breathe easy (although cancelling all the direct debits in Jan 2019 was the biggest sigh of relief as I knew it was all going to be unmanageable and, well, default one, default all.). I've been reading that defaults should be filed 3-6 months after the missed payment but one of my larger debts was defaulted on 27th August 2019 when the last payment I made was 10th December 2018, meaning the first missed payment was 10th Jan 2019.   My query for now is - when should I infer that these debts are prescribed?  From when the payment was missed, or taking the default date plus 5 years from the credit report? The three I have with the May date are moot anyway as either way they are gone  - some letters from Lowell offering me 90% off to settle is what got me thinking these must have been near SB status, however I have one big 10k+ with a July date and another 10k+ at the end of August I am feeling a bit anxious again, even though I know there is nothing to worry about with the begging letters.  Reading the various forums I am not sure why the OC's didn't take action against me when I read time and again the surprise that other posters haven't already been taken to court for lesser amounts - I'm also surprised I've avoided any action this long as there are plenty in this forum and sub forum who are whisked off to the court by the beggers minions after only a year or so after defaulting.  There are no CCJ/decrees listed on my credit report and I have not received any such judgements against me.  I still just regularly receive the begging emails to the spambox, the blocked phone calls and the letters from the they. I'm also reading that there is no need in Scotland to send an LBC so what should I be looking out for to know that the time has come to engage with CCA requests etc? I'm afraid in a fit I threw a lot of the paperwork out but I have a box of stuff I'm going to go through which may have the original letters from the OC's. Thanks in advance for any advice.  
    • I'm at work now but promise to look in later. Can you confirm how you paid the first invoice?  It wasn't your fault if the signal was so poor and there was no alternative way to pay.  There must be a chance of reversing the charge with your bank.  There are no guarantees but Kev  https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/09766749/officers  has never had the backbone to do court so far.  Not even in one case,  
    • OK  so you may not have outed yourself if you said "we". No matter either way you paid. Snotty letter I am surprised that they were so quick off the mark threatening Court. They usually take months to go that far. No doubt that as you paid the first one they decided to strike quickly and scare you into paying. Dear Chuckleheads  aka Alliance,  I am replying to your LOCs You may have caught me the first time but that is  the end. What a nasty organisation you are. You do realise that you now have now no reason to continue to pursue me after reading my appeal since you know that my car was not cloned. Any further pursuit will end up with a complaint to the ICO that you are breaching my GDPR.  Please confirm that you have removed my details from your records. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I haven't gone for a snotty letter this time as they know that you paid for your car in another car park. So using a shot across their bows .  If it doesn't deter them and they send in the debt collectors or the Court you will then be able to get more money back from them for  breachi.ng your data protection than they will get should they win in Court-and they have no chance of that as you have paid. So go in with guns blazing and they might see sense.  Although never underestimate how stupid they are. Or greedy.
    • Thank you. Such a good point. They did issue all 3 before I paid though. I only paid one because I didn’t have proof of parking that time, only for two others.    Unfortunately no proof of my appeal as it was just submitted through a form on their website and no copy was sent to me. I only have the reply. I believe I just put something like “we made the honest mistake of using the incorrect parking area on the app” and that’s it. Thanks again for your help. 
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Hi.

 

I have an outstanding debt on an HSBC credit card. It has been turned over to a DCA (Metropolitan). It is about 3500. I live in Australia and am not planning to return to live in the UK. I also have not contacted anyone about this account in about a year, but still get letters from the DCA. I am planning a visit to the UK in about a month. Can they stop me at the airport?

 

Also, can they try and get a DCA here to collect the debt? I have no property in the UK anymore, not even family or anything else...just going to see friends...

 

Can anyone please advise?

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Yes...somehow they managed to get my work address and my mobile number...they have quit calling...I hung up on them too many times...

 

Ha..let them waste postage writing to you in Oz, If it were me Id be sooo tempted to keep them talking for hours to Oz just to bump up their phone bill..ha

 

No..Of course they cant stop you at the airport..I know its been said umpteen times on here but..DCA's have no powers !

 

I've no idea what kind of credit checking is used in Oz but i doubt it is linked in any way to the UK ones, but I may be wrong.

 

Andy

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What about New Zealand? They are also writing me at the employer there as I am based in both....I am resident in NZ....and they are sending me (and calling me) there as well...there is very limited information on NZ in the above forum...

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There is - but it's buried in amongst the other posts.

 

Basically the same story - they can pester you but chuff all else as the debt is only legally enforceable in the UK.

 

There was a poster who was having some problems with one NZ DCA who had managed to get his UK debts listed on the NZ credit files even though they were disputed. Apparently there is some loophole in the NZ legislation that allowed them to post OS debts like this. They couldn't do anything to collect them so they screwed up his credit rating instead! It's completely ridiculous for any number of reasons - such as they had to convert the debt from sterling to NZ dollars before they could post it even though the exchange rate changed on a daily basis so the figures were always wrong!

 

The last I heard, the original poster was taking legal action against them.

 

If you want advice on NZ / AUS debt matters, I'd suggest you join the ex-pat forum. Although the CAG forums are superb, there aren't many members posting with questions like yours.

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The actions of DCA's maybe be annoying like insects flying around you but ultimately harmless and easily swatted, as others have pointed out the only problem would be if your NZ or OZ credit files were messed with, I have no idea about this, it would make an interest topic, sticky maybe ?. if someone knew more about this subject.

 

Andy

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There seems to a bit of a lapse in the Consumer protection legislation of the two counties. Here in Australia, there is no way that any overseas debts can be listed on our credit files.

 

NZ, on the other hand, has allowed at least one DCA to post an overseas debt by converting it to NZ$ first. As just mentioned, the legality of this is currently being challenged.

 

So far, there has only been this one instance reported on the aforementioned ex-pat forum so it may be just an isolated case which can be blamed on a mistake by the Credit file people rather than a more widespread problem.

 

The good news on this particular case was that as soon as the person concerned told the credit file company the debt was in dispute (Which it was) they immediately removed it from their records.

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Thanks for all of your help...calls have stopped in boith countries now, but letters keep arriving...but I guess that is why god created shredders,,,:cool:

 

How many poor trees must die at the hands of DCA's ? *sheds a tear*

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