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Thank you!Zero thats a piece of mind...:)

Somehow i compose it by using the templates as guides

By royal mail say. and not an email.. Maybe sent the LOD recorded deliverly...

 

Glad to join everyone who posts here... ... :D

 

I wouldn't even waste a stamp on ACS. Email is fine.:D

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One thing that concerns me is the fact that all advise STATES the only way to stop them is to not pay. People who are guilty SHOULD pay, so the two seem to contradict each other and will always lead to a flow of cash....

 

What people really need to do is constantly complain to all the said regulators / watchdog etc. Nothing been changed within a month? complain again and again and again and again.

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One thing that concerns me is the fact that all advise STATES the only way to stop them is to not pay. People who are guilty SHOULD pay, so the two seem to contradict each other and will always lead to a flow of cash....

 

What people really need to do is constantly complain to all the said regulators / watchdog etc. Nothing been changed within a month? complain again and again and again and again.

 

They aren't really concerned if you're innocent or guilty, that's not their primary aim. Don't think they are doing this out of concern for copyright holders. They are doing this to earn £££s and lots of it! So if you pay then all you're doing is funding their next round of letters etc. The SRA need to get tough with Mr Crossleys scheme and quick!

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So whilst the advise for guilty people has to be "seek legal advise from a professional", people should read a little more deeply into that and realise that it is only said because in the eyes of the law is the right thing to say ;).

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Oh on a side note, any one accused of using a torrent should note that during a torrent transfer, the only information that is divulged between the computers talking to each other is the IP address (of a router) the client being used e.g bit torrent / vuze and the version of said software. NO information regarding, computer name, network MAC address is every divulged over this connection. So all in all you have as much right to claim copyrighted material you have rights too was downloaded by anybody whos ip address you can gain access too. THAT is how poor this evidence is.

 

The BBC could slam millions of us for fines just for accessing their site, they would log our IP address, make up some file sharing log and claim we did it, how could we ever disproved it!!!!

 

DO NOT PAY UP TO THIS **EDITED**!

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This thread really should carry a health warning ;)

 

There's a number of new members joining to share their specific story regarding this debarcle. When reading their stories, consider that you don't know those people or their motives for posting. I'd like to say that everyone that comes to CAG is open and honest, here to help or be helped, but we know that isn't always the case. If the story is unbelieveably true, it probably shouldn't be believed. ;)

 

Oh, it would be useful if we could stick to the forum rules. I know emotions run high, but we have the future of the forum/site to consider while posting.

 

Health warning over :lol:

 

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Very Interesting !. The first would seem to imply that the less you say the better, but i wonder what difference being on benefits or having a solicitor would make ?

 

As for the 2nd one, am I correct in my reading of clause 2, where Digital Protect admit to putting copyrighted works on P2P networks with the aim of using them as bait to catch people ?

 

Andy

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Is this the same for NG Systems ?.

 

Good question!

 

Is this the "monitoring program" ACS:LAW are relying on to provide their "evidence"?!

 

From their website:

 

eyeNet

eyeNet Is a Powerful & Fast Traffic Analayser Featuring DPI - Deep Packet Inspection Technology

 

Google: ng3sys .com

NG3 Systems Ltd

Not exactly a well known company is it?

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Kinda hard to understand with the broken English, its a shame we don't have access to the actuall document.

 

From what I can make out a rating of 10 is certain win in court. Possibility to have admitted the offence but not settled.

 

rating of 5 is what seems to be given to people who flat out deny it.

 

any one going through a lawyer gets a rating of 3 and its not really worth pursuing.

 

This does not related to the possible way ACS could be operating though.

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Hi all,

 

My dad recieved a letter from ACS last june, the first letter was asking for £500, he then got a second around 6 weeks later demading £1000, then in the October of 2009 another asking for £350.

 

He ignored the first 2 (against my advice) but i sent a rather, um, shall we say, stern LOD in reply to the 3rd. We have not heard anthing since this was sent (early oct 2009). D o you think he;s decided to move on or should we expect it to pop up again in the future?

 

Many thanks

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Hi all,

 

My dad recieved a letter from ACS last june, the first letter was asking for £500, he then got a second around 6 weeks later demading £1000, then in the October of 2009 another asking for £350.

 

He ignored the first 2 (against my advice) but i sent a rather, um, shall we say, stern LOD in reply to the 3rd. We have not heard anthing since this was sent (early oct 2009). D o you think he;s decided to move on or should we expect it to pop up again in the future?

 

Many thanks

 

 

Well I think he must have moved on by now, judging by the amount of letters that he has sent to others. It surely does not take that long to take people to court. There obviously is know evidence there.

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Great site - thanks for all your efforts.

 

I have had one of these letters and replie with a letter of denial before reading this thread but after finding the Speculative Invoicing Handbook.

 

I can say with absolute certainty that I didnt download the file that I am being threatened about although clearly I cant prove that. ACS:Law did get the correct IP address for my broaband connection.

 

A couple of questions:-

1. Is it possible for someone to spoof an IP address with p2p software?

2. If someone has managed to hack my wifi, am I legally responsible for it?

 

Once again, many thanks for a great thread.

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bob92101 Yes, P2P networks usually throw in a bunch of random IP addresses into the swarm and no, you're currently not legally responsible for this infringement if you didn't do it or authorise another to do it. So someone hacking into your WIFI doesn't make you responsible.

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Great site - thanks for all your efforts.

 

I have had one of these letters and replie with a letter of denial before reading this thread but after finding the Speculative Invoicing Handbook.

 

I can say with absolute certainty that I didnt download the file that I am being threatened about although clearly I cant prove that. ACS:Law did get the correct IP address for my broaband connection.

 

A couple of questions:-

1. Is it possible for someone to spoof an IP address with p2p software?

2. If someone has managed to hack my wifi, am I legally responsible for it?

 

Once again, many thanks for a great thread.

 

1. Yes it sure is and torrent programs always throw random numbers in so yes.

2. Not to my knowledge, after all if you've been hacked it's not your fault.

 

However if you get another letter with a questionnaire, don't fill it out, just send another letter of denial and maybe put a note in there about taking sanctions to get them to stop harrasing you.

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@ shenme & wonkyfunk303 - thanks for the replies.

 

I dont really know anything much about p2p but I dont see how P2P networks can throw random IP addresses into the swarm - surely they can only communiate between genuine IP address?

 

So far as my wifi being hacked - I will have to bone up on wifi and keep it switched off until then!

 

Again TVM

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That's cool! No probs! As for the wifi, it's not a legal obligation to have a secure wireless connection, but it sure helps keeping these pathetic vultures away!

 

It's a legal way to extort money, or attempt to! Well I'm over my 21days, sent later from day 2, not heard anything.....

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@ shenme & wonkyfunk303 - thanks for the replies.

 

I dont really know anything much about p2p but I dont see how P2P networks can throw random IP addresses into the swarm - surely they can only communiate between genuine IP address?

 

So far as my wifi being hacked - I will have to bone up on wifi and keep it switched off until then!

 

Again TVM

 

P2P IP address may not actually exist or they may be geniune users hiding beind a proxy or perhaps a spoofed IP address, this was demonstrated on TV recently, was it 'Click' ?. I cant remember now.

 

Obviously nothing is 'unhackable' but wifi routers should be pretty safe.

 

It should have:-

 

1. WPA2 turned on (the higest level on encryption, other options are WPA and WEP

 

2. SSID turned off, (so other can't 'see' your network).

 

3. Change the derafult IP address, its normally 192.168.1.1 or maybe 192.168.0.1 (Sky routers)

 

4. Change default name & password, these are normally admin & password or something equally guessable.

 

5. MAC Filtering (this only allows specific puters to use the network).

 

As you can see there are lots of options, although normally only the first one is considered essential.

 

If you need help, if you have a router from your ISP they should help you, or if not Netgear support is good, I havnt used other makes.

 

A wise move is to make a backup of your current settings before making too many changes.

 

Remember DO NOT make any admissions to ACS about your router or anything, a simple LOD is all that is needed.

 

Andy

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not sent my leeter off yet but got 1 back from my MP

 

she has contacted the soliciter regulators for the best course of action and she has also requested what possible action acs law are being investigat

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Hi everyone!My mum received one of these letters a while back, I can't remember what month of the top of my head. They wanted £495 from us.I know for a fact that the file they claim we downloaded was not downloaded at all.I explained the situation to my mum and following some online advice I found her, she sent of a LOD.A few days ago they sent their typical 'you have 14 days to cough up or we'll take you to court response'.She is rather worried about it though and wants to go see a solicitor, I'm worried if she does this then she'll end up paying out money she doesn't need to.Could someone please just lay out the basics on acs law and their procedure so I can show her please, she really doesn't understand what they are.Many thanks all!

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Just wondering how many people from the last batch (the £495 'porn' ones) that were received about April, have heard anything else?

 

Looks like the guy above has just heard again, I never sent a LOD and havent heard anything else. Whats others experiences?

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Just wondering how many people from the last batch (the £495 'porn' ones) that were received about April, have heard anything else?

 

Looks like the guy above has just heard again, I never sent a LOD and havent heard anything else. Whats others experiences?

 

I did receive a 2nd letter saying that i had responded with a template and that the offer had now doubled.

 

I sent another LOD stating that nothing had changed and i did not want and further correspondance.

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I received mine in April and sent off 1 LOD, as yet have not heard anything else. Lets hope that it stays like this although i am still expecting one more letter from them. I intend to send one more back if i get another one and that is it, and state on it that i do not want any further correspondance with them.

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