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    • Appreciate input Andy, updated: IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows;     I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim.   1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. The Defendant has not entered any contract with the Claimant. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 21/12/2022. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. Conclusion 10. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Claimant has been unjustly enriched at the expense of the Defendant by purchasing bulk debt at a greatly reduced cost and subrogating for the original creditor in trying to recuperate the full amount of the original debt 12. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • Morning,  I am hoping someone can help, I am posting on behalf of my friend so I will try and provide as much info as possible.  Due health reasons, she is currently not working and unable to pay her contractual car finance payments. She emailed 247 Money and asked for a 3 month payment holiday, they refused this straight away with no reasons as to why. They have told her that instead she can make a payment of £200. She is currently getting £400+ a month ssp so this is not acceptable. She went back to them and explained she cannot make this payment and they have not offered an alternative plan. Its £200 or she falls into default.  She is now panicking as she does not want her car to be taken away. What options does she have?  Thank you, 
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I am sure that this would be a sackable offense if the door stepper was employed - usually they are self-employed but still should be stopped from working for IJ.

 

He will almost certainly have a "arrangement" with a mortgage provider although it may be difficult to prove.

 

 

GK

It was a phone operator who was trying to bully my wife.

He was named in my complaint to RBS concerning this matter.

I am waiting for further responses from RBS and IJ who have both asked for time to investigate the case. If i am not satified with the outcome the s*** will start to hit the fan. !

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IJ have sent me a letter for me to set up a standing order to pay them.

They politely say that i requested this option. Are they aving a laugh !

Should i bother to remind them that they did not action the cca request properly or just ignore them.?:-x:-x:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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I telephoned RBS customer services and told them that IJ had not responded correctly to my CCA request and returned the postal order and told me to send the request to RBS directly.

The RBS told me this was the right thing for IJ to do as the debt was with the RBS not IJ.

I explained that the request clearly states that that being the case IJ have to pass the request on themselves ! RBS did not agree and said i should send the request to them.! The 12+2 days are up since sending IJ the request what should i do now ?

 

Hi,

 

Just been reading your thread having had dealings with IJ.

 

I am afraid that RBS are wrong with their statement as the DCA has a duty to pass your request on to their client. Below is a small exert from the "What Consumer" website:-

 

CCA Request - Section 77 - 79

 

Under these two sections of the Consumer Credit Act, it is your right to request a copy of the executed credit agreement from the creditor, along with specific and current information concerning the debt (s 77 relates to fixed-sum loan agreements, s 78 refers to running-account credit (credit cards) and s 79 to hire agreements).

 

With regard to loans, the specific information must include:

 

The total sum to be paid, as per the agreement

The sum still outstanding and the due dates for each installment

The total sum payable, if different from the agreement.

The creditor has a period of 12 days working days in order to provide the agreement and the statement. If they cannot provide the information, the debt cannot be enforced until they do.

 

In addition to this requirement, new regulations now require loan providers to provide statements to be sent to the consumer no later than one year after the contract was made. Failure to do this will mean repayments (and interest) can be halted until the statement is sent.

 

Your request must be made to the creditor (via the debt collection agency if one is involved) with the payment of £1)

 

Regards.

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Originally Posted by hypern12

I telephoned RBS customer services and told them that IJ had not responded correctly to my CCA request and returned the postal order and told me to send the request to RBS directly.

The RBS told me this was the right thing for IJ to do as the debt was with the RBS not IJ.

I explained that the request clearly states that that being the case IJ have to pass the request on themselves ! RBS did not agree and said i should send the request to them.! The 12+2 days are up since sending IJ the request what should i do now ?

 

This is utter crap by RBS. IJ are chasing you for the money. You send the CCA to them. If they are not the Creditor then they are LEGALLY obliged under S 175 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 to pass your request on to RBS. Its not your job to contact RBS for this. In fact under S 189 of the same Act IJ could well be defined as Creditors thus having all the rights AND responsibilites of the original creditor

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In other words IJs pathetic attempts to pass the buck just show them up for the undoubted CRETINS that they are. No wonder they are sacking so many threat monkeys:D:D

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IJ wrote in response to my complaint about their company's bully boy tactics and apologised saying they did not have recordings of the calls to check on what had been said by members of their staff. oh yeah

They say all their staff are trained to be courteous and professional at all times but all future correspondence will be by letter. suits me !

They go on to say they will accept payments by a previous arrangement.

Pity they could not supply the cca i asked for.

The file of letters they have sent will make interesting reading for my MP as i think that will be my next port of call.

How can they defend not supplying the cca then send out letters asking for payment it's pathetic.!!:D:D

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IJ now are saying that i set up a payment arrangement last week and that i am now in arrears of that arrangement. What arrangement !! more like derrangement !!.

Sent them a letter saying that i do not accept their apology and want further action over my complaint over their scare tactics and the account is in default letter was in there too.

Am gonna contact RBS as well to see what action they have take over the matter as that is where the original complaint was sent and they were going to investigate IJ'S conduct. :-x:-x

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IJ have answered an my letter of complaint and account in dispute letter by saying they have told me how to get a copy of the cca by contacting the RBS directly.

IJ keep refering to an arrangement i made to make payments on the account and that they are still awaiting a further installment.

I have made payments to IJ in the past but they always asked for more money and said i could afford to pay more. !

The manager who sent the letter tends to think IJ have done nothing wrong. !

I have also sent RBS a letter demanding answers to the concerns over IJ's handling of the matter and told them i hold them accountable as they employ this bunch of clowns. !:mad::mad:

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The financial ombubsman investigation is still ongoing and have heard nothing more from IJ. But would you believe it ! Wesscott are now chasing the debt you gotta hand it to the RBS for bloody cheek. !

I have decided to reclaim the charges from the RBS just to keep them on their toes. :rolleyes:;)

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:whoo:My friend just told me this. She was getting harrassed by phone calls so what she does now is says "just a minute I'll get somebody (No Name)" then puts on a fake chinese accent and says "ooooo you order chopsuey, curry...whatttttt you order etc etc." She says it really p****s em off as she can hear them in background lol lol

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