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    • Including Default Notice Andy? Ok, I think this is the best I can do.. it all makes sense with references to their WS. They have included exhibits that dates don't match the WS about them, small but still.. if you're going to reference letters giving dates, then the exhibits should be correct, no? I know I redacted them too much, but one of the dates differs to the WS by a few months. IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim. 1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 24/12/2022. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. Conclusion 10. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • AMEX and TSB the 2 Creditors who you need to worry about the least, ever!  Just stop paying them and forget about it, ignore all their threat o gram letters.  Only if, and with these 2 it's a massive if, you end up with a claim form you need to respond, and there will be plenty of help here.
    • No, nothing from Barclays. Turns out i have 2 accounts on here, and i posted originally on the other one. Sorry about that.  
    • Always send with proof of posting from your Post Office, so there is a trail. Conversations , are designed to intimidate into paying, Emails are designed as another way of bombarding. Only EVER communicate in writing, by post.  
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hi all ,was wondering if i can claim under hardship grounds as im on benefits and last few weeks have seen most of my benefits (income support,child benefit and child tax credits) being taken in charges sometimes leaving me with £20 to live on and have tried phoning them but they just said basically tough .its mainly because they take a charge and it leaves me overdrawn so they then charge me again so cant get out of the situation. i am so down about it as i feel im letting my 2 kids down so can i claim under hardship .they owe me hundreds now and feel i should get that back sooner rather than later as i cant live on £20 wk.sorry ive gone on a bit just so mad so any advice would be really great x

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hi all ,was wondering if i can claim under hardship grounds as im on benefits and last few weeks have seen most of my benefits (income support,child benefit and child tax credits) being taken in charges sometimes leaving me with £20 to live on and have tried phoning them but they just said basically tough .its mainly because they take a charge and it leaves me overdrawn so they then charge me again so cant get out of the situation. i am so down about it as i feel im letting my 2 kids down so can i claim under hardship .they owe me hundreds now and feel i should get that back sooner rather than later as i cant live on £20 wk.sorry ive gone on a bit just so mad so any advice would be really great x

 

Hmmm, let's take this back a notch. Have you done a SAR yet? You haven't let your kids down because you have sort help here. They should be proud of you for that.

Have HBoS sent out an income and expenditure form to you?

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FSA Waiver on Bank Charges:http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regulated/Notify/Waiver/pdf/dir_quart_0709.pdf

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Hi Lucy

 

The best way to find out if you come under the FSA waiver rules for hardship is to :-

1 Complete and Income and Expenses summary

2.Have you done a complete list of all your charges on a spreadsheet!

3.You will need to gather all your evidences as proof of your hardship - this can be arrears on Mortgage/Rent, proof of all your benefits, Utillities arrears any court documents!

4. Then you need to do a letter enclosing 1 to 3 above explaining to Halifax bank why you should be considered.

 

Have a look in the library for the Income and Expenses sheet and also the spreadsheet for your charges summary.

 

If you need any further help just shout.

 

Please let us know how you get on.

 

Tuttsi xx

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in post 1 of this thread there is a letter you can use to try and stop them taking benefits. But I suggest this as a temporary measure the main thing is to open an account such as the Post office account so they can not get access to your monies and then start the claim under hardship using the new waiver guidelines

 

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-debt-issues/36790-bank-taking-your-benefits.html?highlight=are+the+banks+taking+your+benefits

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hi all ,sent a letter of RIGHT OF APPROPRIATION to halifax as i was due to have £70 of charges come out and it would have almost swallowed up my benefits so thought i would try.yes they did leave my money alone but next day they added them to my account and now have gone overdrawn and any money i have going in from benefits will be swallowed up completely and i have d/ds to come out next week as well .is there anything i can do other than close my account .any help would be very helpful thank you x

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Two threads merged, only thing I can think of is to reclaim the charges.

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Go and open a basic account at another bank or Post Office (not Lloyds or Bank of Scotland as they are part of Halifax). Get your benefits paid in there then Halifax can't touch them and you will have money to live on. Your Halifax account will continue to accrue charges, but you can try to reclaim the charges under hardship/ come to a repayment arrangement with them that you can afford.

The important thing is to get your money somewhere Halifax can't get it, then you can sort the rest out from there.

Bank of Scotland account 1 - £2,666 WON

Bank of Scotland account 2 - £2,500 on hold

GE Capital charges -£30 won (hey, every little helps!)

Barclays Partner Finance £425 charges - £225 offer accepted.

 

Finally debt free after 4.5 years, thanks to my Debt Management Plan through Payplan. There is no better feeling :D

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Exactly as I said.

 

If you have control of your money in the Post office or similar account ( or credit union) then you will have a choice about your priorities - which will not be the charges .

 

Then start action to reclaim the charges through the halifax then the FOS as a hardship case.

Please note I am not an expert - I am not offering opinions or legal help - Please use all the information provided on the site in FAQ- step by step instructions and library- thanks Jansus:)

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"What makes the desert beautiful is that somewhere it hides a well." - Antione de Saint Exupery

 

 

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Are there letters on CAG that would ask them to freeze the account or put it in dispute when they start chasing the debt?

Please note I am not an expert - I am not offering opinions or legal help - Please use all the information provided on the site in FAQ- step by step instructions and library- thanks Jansus:)

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif

offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

"What makes the desert beautiful is that somewhere it hides a well." - Antione de Saint Exupery

 

 

PROUD TO BE AN ORANGE

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is there anything i can do other than close my account .any help would be very helpful thank you x

 

I have to agree with suzieblooz and janus, If you do not open a new account, they will continue to add charges.

 

You will find a letter in the library, regarding janus's question.......

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-debt-issues/20758-creditors-dcas-letter-templates.html

 

Regards.

 

Scott.

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thank you all for getting back to me yes will open another account with p/o have cancelled all my d/d as will be charged for everyone of them , im sure i saw a thread on here about asking for the charges back as it was all benefit money and they are not allowed to do it but i cant find it anywhere , but anyway shall continue to claim under hardship and see what happens ,thanks again to everyone x

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im sure i saw a thread on here about asking for the charges back as it was all benefit money and they are not allowed to do it

 

Yes, they seem to ignore certain rules :rolleyes:

 

Continue with your claim, keep us posted.

 

Regards.

 

Scott.

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ok ive just checked my online bank account and another £35.00 has been added to the existing £70.00 they took out a few days ago ,thats 3 bloomin charges in a matter of days ,now im gonna have to beg ,borrow and steal nxt wk just to eat .im so bloomin mad now good mind to phone em up and tell em i want my money back NOW!!! lol. i wont thou coz they wouldnt give a damm and make me look like a pratt.well folks i know what i will be doing this wkend so expect a few posts as i go on my journey lol.

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keep us updated, will watch with interest. Once your money is going elsewhere it will make such a difference. They were taking £500 a month off me in charges at one point, that was nearly all my wages. Once I opened a new account I was amazed at how easy it was to manage my money.

Be prepared - Halifax will get nasty over the outstanding amount on your account. Don't speak to them on the phone, put everything in writing. Do an income and expenditure sheet so they can see you are offering a realistic amount to them, and definitely use the hardship route. They will add interest and charges for months, but will eventually get the message and stop. At least this puts you in control of your money, not them.

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Bank of Scotland account 1 - £2,666 WON

Bank of Scotland account 2 - £2,500 on hold

GE Capital charges -£30 won (hey, every little helps!)

Barclays Partner Finance £425 charges - £225 offer accepted.

 

Finally debt free after 4.5 years, thanks to my Debt Management Plan through Payplan. There is no better feeling :D

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Yes, they seem to ignore certain rules :rolleyes:

 

Continue with your claim, keep us posted.

 

Regards.

 

Scott.

Slap yourself mate, even you have read Steven4064 and that there are no such rules on direct payments into an account. come on, you can think when you are here ;)

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FSA Waiver on Bank Charges:http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regulated/Notify/Waiver/pdf/dir_quart_0709.pdf

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thank you all for getting back to me yes will open another account with p/o have cancelled all my d/d as will be charged for everyone of them , im sure i saw a thread on here about asking for the charges back as it was all benefit money and they are not allowed to do it but i cant find it anywhere , but anyway shall continue to claim under hardship and see what happens ,thanks again to everyone x

 

Have they given you any money back lucy? All they said to me was to contact money management team but i could manage fine if they didnt keep taking my money.

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