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    • god they've got at you haven't they. told you all the usual utter BS. a CCJ vanishes from your credit file on it's 6th B'Day regardless to being paid off or not or paying or not. same with any debt with a registered defaulted date - it vanishes from your file on the DN's 6th B'day regardless. creditfix are Knightsbridge, (they renamed) there are 100's of threads here on Knightsbridge, if i remember rightly 2 of the directors of a certain very big IVA provider were struck off for embezzling £1m's out of debtors. pers i'd stop paying now.  end of . just ignore them all. 99% of your debts are to utterly powerless DCA's and probably were never owed in the first place only goes to firm up my belief from post one..you got had blind. its very easy to deal with the debts even those with CCJ's. can you copy and paste what you credit file says regarding the IVA please?   
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    • Sorry I meant credit fix - I really wish I'd known this before - kicking myself right now  If they come back to me asking for more money I'll cancel it and start trying to deal with the debt myself let's see what they say  Feeling tempted to cancel it now but scared that some of the debts will do more CCJ's on me and I'll have to wait 6 years again.  2 of the CCJ come of this year and then I'll only have the iva in credit file - effectively if I'd have not took out the iva in 2021 I'd have clear score by now - but then again would I because I would have been hounded the last 3 years, as bad as it is it's saves me lots of headaches whilst my debt was still within the 6 year mark.  I think most of them are near there but in all honesty no point chasing them if I do cancel iva I'd jjst wait for the ones who contact me and then start the relevant letter process on them.  Of over 6 years easy if not still possible to write off. My true victory would be having the iva wiped off my credit file as mis sold or something that way I Don't have to wait till 2027 Other option is to fight back and ask for them to offer the creditors to accept payments so far and use the following method    Will your IVA firm agree to complete your IVA on the basic of funds paid to date? The Guidance lists a lot of factors to be considered in deciding whether a settlement on the basis of funds paid to date should be proposed. You should read the list. But that may not give you any feel for whether they apply to you or not. The following are my thoughts on when an IVA should be treated as settled, not failed. They assume that you have £75 or less to pay a month: if you would currently qualify for a Debt Relief Order, then your IVA should be settled now  There is no point in making your IVA fail and you have to apply for a DRO – it will not generate another penny for your creditors. If you are renting and owe less than £50,000, check the DRO criteria now and talk to National Debtline on 0808 808 4000 about whether you qualify. You may have been told at the start of your IVA that you aren’t eligible – still check now as the DRO criteria have changed, your situation has got worse, and some people were given incorrect information about DROs at the start. if you have no assets that would be realised in bankruptcy (eg a house with equity, car worth over £2000), then your IVA should be settled now Same as (1), there is no point in making you apply for bankruptcy after your IVA fails. if your only asset is a car that is worth less than £8000, then your IVA should be settled now A car that is worth say £5000 would normally be sold in bankruptcy and you would be given a small amount to buy a cheaper car. But your creditors would not get any benefit from this as the Insolvency Service takes the first £8000 raised to cover its own costs. if you have significant assets, the closer you are to the end of the IVA, the less reasonable it is to fail it If you have been paying your IVA for 4 years, you have done your best over a long period. It isn’t your fault you can no longer continue. The fact you may have had equity to release isn’t relevant as that simply isn’t going to be possible. if your situation will clearly improve soon, then it’s unlikely your IVA will be settled I mean real improvements, not hoping that prices fall. If I can get them to accept payment to date or threaten with cancellation hopefully they may accept it -  Other option is to try and borrow money and pay make a full and final offer  Or I can just ignore and hope for the best which I'm very tempted to do especially if they respond to my review with bullying tactics despite me being skint as a fart with no mortgage as renting  It's so stressful but I've just checked the iva agreement from 2021 and it's Cabot 2 accounts Lowell about 5 accounts and then lots of repeats of the same debt with for example zopa and Cabot same amount listed twice -  also loyyds banks but I'm sure that's older than 6 years and not on credit file anyway  If I can somehow remove the iva from my credit file I'd be happy 
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Hi Guys

 

Applied for my CCA in October to which Experto only today responded with what they say is what MBNA have on file as my agreement. Not sure what to make of this, as this isnt the agreement I would have signed and returned to them when I made my application for Credit Card. Basically what they have sent back is 5 pages of what they say is my agreement. It is titled "Credit Card Agreement Regulated By The Consumer Credit Act 1974", what sticks out like a sore thumb is the lack of signature on this "agreement". On page 4 is has a section with a ticked box in it, is this supposed to be my signature? I guess without a signed document, this agreement is inadmissable as anyone could have put this document together.

 

What do you guys/girls suggest I do as my next form of action?

 

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Hi Ali

 

You may have better luck if you start your own thread and post up a copy of the contract.

 

I think it would be difficult to obtain an opinion without sight of the CCA.

 

Good luck

 

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Ali, as advised, if you start your own thread and pop a link here for us to find then you can be advised for your own situation. Is this an online application ? As that would only require ticking. Before a certain date though a paper copy also had to be signed.

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Ali, as advised, if you start your own thread and pop a link here for us to find then you can be advised for your own situation. Is this an online application ? As that would only require ticking. Before a certain date though a paper copy also had to be signed.

 

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Hi

 

Its been very quite however I did recieve another reduced settlement offer today, not sure where they get the figures from but they are not anywhere near as generous as MBNA's offers!

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Hi All

 

I hope all is well.

 

Not much to report although I received a letter from Debt Help Services(another trading style of 1st Credit) asking me to contact them regarding repayment.

 

Is it worth sending an account in dispute letter again to these guys or is it best to ignore them? I just want to make sure that should they ever choose to litigate I have covered the bases.

 

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Dear Sirs,

 

Account Ref

 

Account in Dispute

 

 

This account is in dispute. Please return to original creditor for resolution of dispute.

 

Further correspondence from you will be read and filed only.

 

Etc, etc..

 

 

Paper trail established. :-) Send via Free proof of posting only. Dont waste money on recorded or special delivery costs for these people. As long as you have proof that you sent it and it isnt returned by the post office then it has been delivered. :)

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Dear Sirs,

 

Account Ref

 

Account in Dispute

 

 

This account is in dispute. Please return to original creditor for resolution of dispute.

 

Further correspondence from you will be read and filed only.

 

Etc, etc..

 

 

Paper trail established. :-) Send via Free proof of posting only. Dont waste money on recorded or special delivery costs for these people. As long as you have proof that you sent it and it isnt returned by the post office then it has been delivered. :)

 

 

Excellent thanks CB! I wonder what they will do, the contract is flakey the default is dodgy. If they had accepted my original repayment offer they would have had over £1000 off of me by now.

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Excellent thanks CB! I wonder what they will do, the contract is flakey the default is dodgy. If they had accepted my original repayment offer they would have had over £1000 off of me by now.

 

Hopefully and if they have any sense then they will return the account to the original creditor. :rolleyes:

 

Sadly, they hope to bully and pressure people into repaying. I find it hard to believe that creditors were no prepared to accept short to mid term compromises in the early stages. They would have saved themselves £thousands in administration and legal costs and people would have felt honour bound to repay someone who had shown some consideration for a situtation that many of us didnt ever think we would find ourselves in.

 

But they didnt and because of this dodgy dealings by the creditors in the early stages of the contracts have now come to light. They only have themselves to blame.

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Hopefully and if they have any sense then they will return the account to the original creditor. :rolleyes:

 

Sadly, they hope to bully and pressure people into repaying. I find it hard to believe that creditors were no prepared to accept short to mid term compromises in the early stages. They would have saved themselves £thousands in administration and legal costs and people would have felt honour bound to repay someone who had shown some consideration for a situtation that many of us didnt ever think we would find ourselves in.

 

But they didnt and because of this dodgy dealings by the creditors in the early stages of the contracts have now come to light. They only have themselves to blame.

 

Wise words CB, that is exactly the situation with me and I am sure many others. The fact they were not compassionate or helpful when discussing my case led me to this website to find out my rights which in turn led me to dispute the debt.

 

The fact is they have also added almost £2k in additional charges to the original balance thus making a bad situation worse. Personally due to the way MBNA and subsequent DCA's have spoken to me and handled the situation has made me more determined to defend my corner.

 

The help of you and others with this has been greatly appreciated.

 

All the best

 

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I requested all information from Experto Credite back in July 2010, only today have they responded with a letter, stating that I need to go back to MBNA to get this information. However Experto want me to propose to them repaying the outstanding balance.

 

Is there any recourse in the fact that Experto admit they have limited information but are not providing it as requested as well as the time it has taken them to respond?

 

Also can I not refer the debt back to MBNA as a result of the response from Experto, given that MBNA hold all the information?

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I requested all information from Experto Credite back in July 2010, only today have they responded with a letter, stating that I need to go back to MBNA to get this information. However Experto want me to propose to them repaying the outstanding balance.

 

Is there any recourse in the fact that Experto admit they have limited information but are not providing it as requested as well as the time it has taken them to respond?

 

Also can I not refer the debt back to MBNA as a result of the response from Experto, given that MBNA hold all the information?

 

 

Hi alimehmet

 

Have you sent a SARS to MBNA? Have they provided an enforcable contract?

 

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You need to resist folding under pressure from experto as the common consensus is that if they have your account its probably defective in some way shape or form.

My mbna accounts went to them after mbna racked up a further 9 months of charges but it did go with a defective default notice as well which was helpful.

I've only had limited contact from experto after i told them the cca was improperly executed,the default notice was defective and if they wanted to take me to court they should consider bankruptcy as an option as i'm not worth anything as it is,not being a homeowner etc.

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Its been a long time since my last post. I stopped all payments in 2012 but have today received a letter threatening a stat demand!

 

Should I respond?

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Responding to S>O>S.

 

 

They will need to personally serve a Statutory Demand.

 

 

What is the value of the outstanding debt, bozalt - there was a change to the amount at which a Stat demand could be issued from £750.00 to £5,000 last year.

 

 

I will ask one of the site team to look in on you to advise if you should make any response to this.

 

 

IMHO, I wouldn't rush to do anything just yet.

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http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?439719-Bankruptcy-threshold-increased-from-£750.00-to-£5-000.00

 

 

Yes, October 2015 the minimum limit was increased to £5,000

 

 

If I recall, weren't there quite a lot of charges on this ?

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Thank you for your reply Citizenb.

 

There were around £2k in charges and the total balance is claimed to be around £7.5k.

 

 

The last payment was made in 2011 although I notice 2 x £1 credits have been applied subsequently whenever I have requested CCA from the othr DCA's they farmed it out to.

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who saying SD

scan the letter up as a PDF please.

 

 

upload

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi DX100UK

 

1st credit are the letter writers, copy attached for your reference.

 

I read that they got themselves into trouble in 2009 for sending out SD's.

 

Thanks

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pers i'd ignore them.

its designed to get a response.

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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