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    • I contacted Sanctury housing in August 2023 after informing them my father in law who had Dementia had moved into a Nursing home December 2022. We kept the flat for 8 months until such a time we could accomodate some of his furniture that my wife wanted to keep. I contacted them in August 2023 to let them know the situation by email as I was the named person that could speak on his behalf. I informed them that we had left it to late for POT and were seeing a solicitor for Deputyship of his financies. I asked them what information would they need in order to give notice on the flat and we could provide details of his condition and nursing home. This went ignored I left it a month and then called them October 2023. I was promised a call back from a manager over the next few days. This never happened and it was end of November when I contacted them again and they had no record of me calling them. I explained the email and again I was told the local manager to the area would call me. This never happened and I ended up emailing them in January 2024 with a copy of the email from August. Again this went ignored and I had explained to them that we couldn't just go to the bank and stop the DD as we had tried. This email again went ignored. I then had a letter written to our home address in February asking us to get in contact with them (local manager) as they were concerend nobody was living in the flat. He had an email address so I copied in the last 2 emails to say I had been trying to give notice since August 2023. I also stated that I would like the rent that was paid from August 2023 refunded back to his account as I had officially tried to give notice then and it went ignored. He replied to us about wanting to look at the flat then notice could be given once he had contacted the nursing home to confirm he was actually living there now. Notice was giving for the 22 March 2024 and this would be when rent would stop and no further payment would be taken by this point. The fact I asked to be back dated went ignored. I have since noticed on 2 banks statement for April and May that they are still taking Rent payments of £501 from his bank. Further to this which seems very strange. He was with Eon Next for his utility bill again we were having problems getting this stopped as they needed a named person on his account which there wasn't one despite me managing his online account for him. I didn't check the email address that often that I used to set it up and went to check as noticed the credit he had built up with not living there was all getting refunded in February. The email said £600 would be refunded to his account with a (sorry you are leaving us message) but how can he leave as nobody but himself had access to speak with them. I also noticed the lady in the flat above him had a letter from her bank sent to his address with his address details but his name which was dated 4th March well before we had given notice and it said (thank you for giving us your new address details) we have set all this up for your account.   So Sanctuary housing must have been aware he wasn't living there from the ignored emails for the lady above to start changing address details to move into his flat before the housing manager had even got in contact to ask if anyone was living there. What I basically want to know his do we have any legal standing to claim the rent back from when I first contacted them in August 2023? There is roughly £3000 to come back  
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    • I see what you mean. I will wait till the 8 weeks is up and then take it up with FOS. Before I do will be on with some more details on the SAR. Thank you once again. 
    • Tagging @stu007 who's great with this. You should have at least 2 months notice with a Section 21 notice (Which Form 6A is used) For now, scan, redact and upload anything you think will be useful    
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Hi ,

thought I'd give a quick update on my case, Its 3 weeks since I had the first letter informing me of an investigation, & 2 weeks since the meeting, they have yet to get back to me, in the first letter 3 weeks ago they stated it could take up to 20 days but no longer.

Aswell as my case there has also been another case running with another member of staff which I have been involved in as her Rep, she was actually dismissed for allegations of theft which was on very dodgy evidence, anyway we had the appeal hearing on Friday & the decision was overturned & she has been re-instated, much to the annoyance management.

Today I was due to have a meeting with the Head Teacher & someone from HR as well as my area Rep, this was called because of the troubles going on with various members of staff, from , pay, equality etc.

My area rep has received a call from HR saying the Head doesn't want me at the meeting, as part of the meeting will be to discuss my case.

We can't believe them, as before my investigation meeting 2 weeks ago, my area rep tried to talk to the Head Teacher about me , to which the Head said that she couldn't discuss the case as she was not the investigating officer.

It just doesn't make sense.

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Just updating again,

My area rep insisited on me being at the meeting yesterday, informing them that they were ignoring an elected trade union rep which the local authority recognises, the head relented & agreed to my being there.

They also informed my area rep & myself that there is going to be a hearing about my case & they were just going through the details & then will let me know, my area rep told them that as far as she's concerned & the head office of the union, this is victimisation of a union rep & this will be taken forward as such, to which the head & her HR rep said they disagreed (obviously), & that the head would be sitting on the panel at the hearing, my area rep then said, well you want to be very wary then, to which the HR rep said, well ok we will have someone else.

Its just unbelievable.

As a side note, we had to discuss other problems occurring with other members of staff.

The personwho had her job re-instated has had a major confidentiality leak, started by the head who has laid the groundwork to make it very difficult for her to come back to work without having to defend herself.

The head stated to all members of staff that this person was dismissed & rightly so according to the evidence, but that the decision was overturned, to which members of staff said that as far as they were aware this person had been off on long term sick as was put on the sickness board, and then to top it all off after the head made this statement, a member of the office staff then decided to tell staff all about the case, what it was & the very fine details that only someone that was privy to this info would have known.

So now the union have issued a victamisation against this person & the Head for this case aswell, also stating defamation of character & slander.

These are the people sitting in judgement of me.

sorry its so long winded but I thought a little bit of backround info.

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It sounds as if your area rep has things well in hand. I’m glad she insisted you were in the meeting, shows your employers that you will not be bullied.

Stick with it and please keep us informed.

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Just a quick update,

Its 2 week since that last meeting I was in & still I haven,t heard when my hearing will be.

They have to give me five working days notice, which means even if I receive it tomorrow, that would make it next Thursday & I along with other union members are on strike next wednesday & thursday, and then I break up the next day (friday) for 6 weeks.

I just don't know what game their playing.

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Hi

Just thought I'd give another update, well I sill haven't heard a word about my hearing, and now I am on holiday for 6 weeks as we broke up yesterday.

I along with other union members were on strike this weds & thurs, & picketed outside my sch, this was a national strike, but my head decided to take it personally & had a go about me to other members of staff that were not on strike, saying that it was my doing, & in the words of other staff members being very bitchy about me.

She came out to the picket line & tried to intimidate me, but I said that everything we was doing was legal & gave her a letter stating that.

She done this infront of 35 other union members to which I have their support, as they are disgusted by her behaviour.

When I returned to work yesterday, she blatently ignored me.

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Hi,

Along time since i posted on here, but I didn't have anything to report.

Untill now.

Well After hearing nothing about my hearing from management since this started in March, I received a Letter informing me of a hearing date for the 10th Oct. I couldn't believe it after all this time. Any way I have been off sick, so couldn't attend & they have yet to make another date. But in the mean time I have been offered another job, So I will be handing in my resignation.

Also the Head teacher is under investigation, as large members of staff have written letters to the local authority, governors and other senior staff complaining about the Head teachers practices with regard to employing family members, without advertising the jobs, one of the family members was 15 when employed, also for giving a tender for a huge contract to a family member.

The local authority are now investigating.

So I am so pleased to be out of it.

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