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    • Another update - just had another round of Text messages, Emails and letters. Physical  letters still going to the old address (forwarded by royal mail). All messages were exactly the same as the previous round with threats of CCj's, Attachment of Earnings, Warrant of Execution, Bankruptcy and Charging Order. Seems to be a 2 week pattern of 1 week letter, following week email - texts seem to be a bit more randon, but always over 10 days between each one.  Not sure if IDR are working diligently behind the scenes to recover monies from me,  or are just spamming me in the hope that i stick my head above the parapet
    • Here  (edited for personal information).    Claimform.pdf filed defence.pdf
    • 1. the claim is for sum of 1650£ due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for capital one account with an account reference of xxxx 2. the dependent failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s87(1) of the consumer credit act 1973 which has not been complied with 3. the debt was legally assigned to the claimant on 18-03-21 notice of which has been given to defendant  4. the claim incudes statutory interest under s69 of the county court act 184 at a rate of 8%per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of 132£ the claimant claims the sum of 1782£ defence. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim vague and are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 1. The Claimant has not complied with paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) Failed to serve a letter of claim pre claim pursuant to PAPDC changes of the 1st October 2017.It is respectfully requested that the court take this into consideration pursuant to 7.1PAPDC. 2. The Claimant claims £xxxxxx is owed under a regulated consumer credit account under reference xxxxxxxxx. I do not recall the precise details or agreement and have sought verification from the claimant and the claimants solicitor by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request who are yet to fully comply. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unable to recall the precise details of the alleged agreement or any default notice served in breach of any defaulted payments. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant contends that no notice of assignment pursuant to s.136 of the Law of Property Act & s.82 A of the CCA1974 has ever been served by the Claimant as alleged or at all. 5. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of assignment/balance/breach requested by CPR 31. 14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence any cause of action and service of a Default Notice  pursuant to sec87(1) of the CCA1974; and (c) show how the Defendant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 6. After receiving this claim I requested by way of a CPR 31.14 request and a section 78 request for copies of any documents referred to within the Claimants' particulars to establish what the claim is for.  7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief Should the amount be the figure in the particulars or the final figure with the added fees Should the amount be the figure in the particular or the final amount with fees added
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Out of interest... was is Glos cc?

HSBC

09th June 2006 - Data Protection Act Request

21st June 2006 - Acknowledgement from HSBC

30th June 2006 - 33 letters arrive - 6yrs statements

01st July 2006 - Preliminary request for £2868.24.

12th July 2006 - HSBC offered me £1995, I declined.

17th July 2006 - LBA sent, now £2970

01st August 2006 - MCOL for £3778 (inc 8% + fees)

08th August 2006 - HSBC defending ....

31st August 2006 - SETTLED IN FULL - Wooooooohoooooo.

Halifax

09th June 2006- Data Protection Act Request

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10th July 2006 - Preliminary request for £1393.08.

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24th July 2006 - LBA sent, now £1421.

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16th August 2006 - SETTLED IN FULL - woooohoooo

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The bank in question is Lloyds. The solicitors have most probably received my letter before the stay order as it went to them on Monday by Recorded Delivery. So the offer was accepted before the court order. Logic, huh?

I don't want to clog up BF's inbox- I hope he monitors this thread. I have 7 days from 4th of July to object to this order. Bugger.

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" The claim is stayed pending the determination of the Elliot v Lloyds TSB 6UB01701 currently pending in the London Mercantile Court, in which similar or the same issues appear to arise."

 

Seminole; any idea re; does it affect me if my claim seem to be already settled or can the settlement be voided following this order?

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Can I ask is it a very big claim? I'm worried now, thought it was just Glos.

BOS - Prelim letter del 19/5/06 LBA del. no response - filed 12/06

Clydesdale Financial Services - Gave them their chances off to court we go!

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" The claim is stayed pending the determination of the Elliot v Lloyds TSB 6UB01701 currently pending in the London Mercantile Court, in which similar or the same issues appear to arise."

 

Seminole; any idea re; does it affect me if my claim seem to be already settled or can the settlement be voided following this order?

 

I'm afraid that I don't know the answer to that but hopefully we will be able to advise.

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Do you want to apply to remove the stay?

 

Contact me

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The amount claimed was £3700 plus court costs and one extra charge which took place after the claim was issued. Total £4035.

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How long was it since you filed the claim? I just wonder at what stage the stay was put in place? I know you had had an offer of settlement but after the claim was issued how long? Just can't understand how the courts can keep accepting claims then putting them on stay. Also if your claim is put on stay are the banks not even more likely to settle so it doesn't go to mercantile court and become the test case?

BOS - Prelim letter del 19/5/06 LBA del. no response - filed 12/06

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I find this very odd, jifjaf joined today so we have no idea why he was sueing Clydesdale Financial Services or what he had wrote on the claim form.

 

Could this possibly be somebody trying to throw a cat amonst the pigeons. Surely if there were a test case somebody would have sniffed it out by now. I know that when I studied law you could read about pending high profile test cases. I think I'll spend some time looking out for this.

RBOS: Fob off letter recieved 28th June.

LBA for £2,690 & LBA for £3,240 sent 1st July. Replt to LBA'S recieved 14/7/06......fob off again!!! watch this space

:lol: MCOL submitted 19/07/06 :cool:

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It's not my case which is in Mercantile; it's someone's called Elliot, bless his/hers socks.

The claim was put in on 2nd of May and Lloyds' solicitors dragged it to the very last minute of every deadline.

 

Angelface; I wish, honestly. Unfortunately it is not a tease or a prank.

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Yep, the AQ was submitted about 3 weeks ago whilst the solicitors submitted on a very last day of the time frame. But no court date arrived- instead the stay order came through today.

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It's not my case which is in Mercantile; it's someone's called Elliot, bless his/hers socks.

The claim was put in on 2nd of May and Lloyds' solicitors dragged it to the very last minute of every deadline.

 

Angelface; I wish, honestly. Unfortunately it is not a tease or a prank.

 

sorry, I did realise that it wasn't your case. It's just that I hadn't heard about it going to court. Hopefully the court will make a sensible ruling and one that favours all us poor people. good luck

RBOS: Fob off letter recieved 28th June.

LBA for £2,690 & LBA for £3,240 sent 1st July. Replt to LBA'S recieved 14/7/06......fob off again!!! watch this space

:lol: MCOL submitted 19/07/06 :cool:

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I' have sent you an email which is receiving an out of office reply

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what happens if a case is put on stay with regards to a settlement? Is it possible still to withdraw the case if you are offered a settlement or are you 'stuck'? Would the banks be more likely still to offer a settlent if your case is put on stay to keep it from mercantile court or less likely because the case is 'frozen'?

BOS - Prelim letter del 19/5/06 LBA del. no response - filed 12/06

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OK, another question.. and scuse me for sounding stupid, but..

 

What is a mercantile court, and how does it fit in the grand scheme of things when it comes to the court system in this country?

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My post 62 on this thread

 

Thanks, must admit it's hard to keep track of so many threads on here sometimes. Still none the wiser how the Elliot vs Lloyds TSB case managed to get to the Mercantile Court, but I suppose it's time for some reading up on the subject and see what I can learn.

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so thats 3 stays out of how many hundreds (or possibly thousands) of claims? Admittadly, a little bit to reflect on, but no burst of the dam as of yet. The only factor that matters is who is "elliot" and how far the TSB lets the claim go. Do they have enough support? What is the detail of the claim?

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