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A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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It depends where you live. They will decide how many rooms you should need, and then base any calculations on the average price of houses that size in your area. This is changing, though, and will be more transparent under the new system.

 

If you pay 800pcm for a 3-bed house but the average rent for 2-bed houses in the area is 650pm you will automatically have to find that extra 150 - they effectively work out all further caluculations as though your monthly rent is lower of the two figures.

 

Hope that makes sense,

 

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they also bas the benefit rate on the rates for council propertys and then anything over that you have to pay.

 

So if a council 2 bed house is £50.00 a week you will get £50.00 a week benefit.

 

council tax benefit is based on a A rated property and if your property is a different rating then u need to pay the extra.

 

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they also bas the benefit rate on the rates for council propertys and then anything over that you have to pay.

 

So if a council 2 bed house is £50.00 a week you will get £50.00 a week benefit.

 

council tax benefit is based on a A rated property and if your property is a different rating then u need to pay the extra.

 

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Thats not correct at all. The maximum rent for a particular type of property is set by the rent officer taking in to account the 'market' rent for the area. For example, 2-bed flats (private) in my area cost from £375 to over £600. My council will pay up to £470. If I chose to live in a more luxurious flat, then I would have to pay the difference. It is not based on council rent values.

 

Likewise, the council tax benefit will be paid in full unless you live in a property larger than your needs. For example, my property is band B and I receive full CTB.

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It depends where you live. They will decide how many rooms you should need, and then base any calculations on the average price of houses that size in your area. This is changing, though, and will be more transparent under the new system.

 

If you pay 800pcm for a 3-bed house but the average rent for 2-bed houses in the area is 650pm you will automatically have to find that extra 150 - they effectively work out all further caluculations as though your monthly rent is lower of the two figures.

 

Hope that makes sense,

 

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Yes that makes perfect sense...Thanks!

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I have to state that the housing benefit system is a very complex procedure.

 

The rent is assessed by the Independant valuers office which is not linked to the council, they set values based on Current market conditions on private tenancies only. They DONOT take into account council tenancies. They give their valuation and you have 28days to ask for an appeal of the decision if you think it is wrong.

 

If you are indeed in a property that is too big for you, I feel you have 2options. Firstly you can either move on to somewhere smaller, or you can ask for a DHP a Discretionary Housing Payment, which is where the council make the difference between the benefit being received and the rent charged. I have to state that this is completely upto the council weather or not they award this additional benefit.

 

As for the council tax benefit, if you are on what is called a passport benefit(income support & job seekers) then you will qualify for full council tax benefit, regardless of size.

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We are in reciept of working tax credit and child tax credit so will not get full housing benefit anyway but the house has one room more than we need, however we do have my husbands 2 children (girl and a boy) staying at weekends so could do with the extra room.

I put a pre tenancy determination form in last week but have not had a reply yet.

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If you are receiving working tax credit you wont qualify for the DHP, The pre tenancy determination should be done anyday now. I would keep on top of them possibly call them. When it gets to your husbands 2children staying at weekends did you put that on the form? If so the rent assessed will be on your circumstances and will show you exactly what you qualify for.

 

Well done for going down the route of the pre tenancy determination, I have lots of tenants that just move in and say they can afford and dont think ahead what their finances are.

 

Hope you get the house and it works out for you, you seem like a sensible and good tenant.

 

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If you are receiving working tax credit you wont qualify for the DHP

 

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Technically- wrong, unless it is some kind of informal local policy. Eligibility for DHP is only restricted to whether client is in receipt of HB- nothing else.

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well it does actually depend on were you live. Robin9342 this is actually correct information based on were l live as we have had housing benefit rates capped as we live in a very low income area were most of us are on benefits. So the information l gave is correct.

 

The same with CTB. We have had this capped for the same reasons. Also the OP has not stated were they live so any information that we give may not be relivate to were they live anyway.

 

We dont have indapendaant valuers that tell the council how much the propertys are worth in this area the rent officer comes out and assess the property then will say what HB/CTB you are entitled to due to the cap in the HB/CTB capped rates.

 

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well it does actually depend on were you live.
No, it does not. The only exception are Local Allowance areas but they would not apply to CTB anyway. The way the HB is assessed (LA excepted) is standard nationwide.

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Well i have everything in writing from my council on how they assess eveything so l no what l have put is correct.

 

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Now there is no need to argue, all the information regarding benefits and how they are allocated are available on the local councils websites.

 

Joa - I can comment from over 12 local councils where they state that the DHP is Discretionary and a sfunds are limited they will not allocate them to people that work this benefit is used for passport benefit only -income support and JSA.

 

The GodMother - your independant rent assessor is based from outwith your area if you have a dispute with your rent you can ask them to re-look at it within 1 month of receiving your award letter, (outwith that in exceptional circumstances) they then get a rent officer from a different area to re-look at it and come back to you directly, it is not called an appeal it is classes as a redetermination of a rent officers decision.

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Joa - I can comment from over 12 local councils where they state that the DHP is Discretionary and a sfunds are limited they will not allocate them to people that work this benefit is used for passport benefit only -income support and JSA.

 

Of course, there is a huge amount of discretion when it comes to how the local authorities assess people, how much they award and for how long. That's why there should never be a blanket statement as in "If you are receiving working tax credit you wont qualify for the DHP"

because there are thousands of local authorities and i, despite working in welfare for many years, have never encountered restrictions like this or that DHP would only be paid to people who are receiving IS/JSA. That's why I reacted so strongly.

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Well i have everything in writing from my council on how they assess eveything so l no what l have put is correct.

 

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Oh, I do not doubt that you have correspondence from the council with regards to your case because your rent may have been capped to an eligible level, which is lower then actual level- exactly as robin was trying to explain. CTB can also be capped for many reasons.

 

And now comes big warning , a warning which I have posted before, some time ago and which I would like to be posted as a sticky, because this is not going to go away:

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS ADVICE FROM YOUR OWN EXAMPLES. THE BENEFIT RULES ARE COMPLEX. MOST ASSESSMENTS ARE CONDUCTED ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS. YOU ARE RISKING SERIOUSLY MISLEADING OTHER POSTERS. ADVISE ONLY IF YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL- ALL OTHER POSTERS: PLEASE RESTRICT YOURSELF TO SUGGESTIONS AT BEST.

 

I AM SERIOUS. It is exactly the same as with medications- you should always get yourself checked, because each of our circumstances are different. You should never take someone else's tablets no matter how similar you think their conditions is.

 

This is not to discourage posters; but caution need to be exercised when you advise people. You can lead people to make virtually life-changing WRONG decisions. You can be a cause of fraudulent application or financial hardship.

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It does not state is is about my case.

 

I work withim the mental health sector and this information has been issued to everyone within our area that would have anything to do with housing benefit council tax beneift cliam so l no the information l am given is not just about one person.

 

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Oops! I`m sorry I asked now!! :oops:

 

I know in my area the assesments are not the same for private as council tenants.

I know someone in a 3 bed council property for £280 a month HB and someone round the corner in a private rented gets £500 a month HB.

 

I just wanted to know really if there were set deductions for each bedroom not really needed.

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I just want to understand it well: you have information, in writing, from your local authority that the rent amount are capped at a certain level for assessment. Do you belong to Pathfinders /the Second Wave Group (2WG) ? Are you using Local Housing Allowance?

If not, what are the reasons for you LA to cap rents? Because you

live in a very low income area were most of us are on benefits.
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This is extremely peculiar and something that Local Government Ombudsman would be very interested in.

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I live in a Housing Allowance Pilot area and there is a guideline of allowance awards on the councils web page outlining how much you are entitled to and under what circumstances (i.e single person or overhoused). Have you tried the councils web page or benefits helpline?

Any posts submitted here on the Consumer Action Group under the user name GlasweJen may not necessarily be the view of the poster, CAG or indeed any normal person.

 

I've become addicted to green blobs (I have 2 now) so feel free to tip my scales if I ever make sense.;-)

 

 

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pebs- there are no deductions. Instead, your assessment will be done on a basis of "eligible" rent for a standard property for your family. You need to call your council's Housing Benefit department to ask what they would consider reasonable for your family, claim DHP on basis that you need the extra room for visiting children, that's why your house is bigger then the recommended size that's why rent is higher, which is not reflected in HB calculations.

Let me know if you need further help with this.

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for some reason we did not get half the amount of government money we should have got the last tax year. so the council put a cap on the benefits rates of housing and/or council tax. Also we have alot of low income ppl on benefits in this area and the council are paying out for about 90% of this areas rent/ council tax so sumething needed to be done.

 

I personally have not looked to far into the situation but l they did get some type of special permission so l dont know the full facts. I will look into this more when l am back at work but l might not be able to find out much.

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So I can claim this dhp on tax credits?

 

 

Of course- you can claim! But remember: it is not something that you are entitled to, but something that you may be awarded for a period and amount entirely at your council's discretion. Definitely worth trying though. Search the forum for "DHP" - I have posted about it before. To secure best chance of award it would be really great if you could see an adviser to proof read your personal statement. Focus (in an nutshell) about financial hardship and it's effect on you and your family, your inability to find enough for basic necessities, possibilities of rent arrears, importance of the children visiting.

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