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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.    Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.   The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved.  Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
    • You can use a family's address.   The only caveat is for the final hearing you'd need to be there in person   HOWEVER i'd expect them to pay if its only £200 because costs of attending will be higher than that
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Hi everyone,

 

Thank you for taking the time to view my post. I really hope someone can offer advice..

 

I'm going to be blunt, and please forgive me, but I've never spoken about this to anyone before.

 

nearly 5 years ago my marriage broke down,

I had to leave my family home, and close down my business.

 

I moved away from the county I lived in as I didn't have any work any more, and my sister let me live in a flat above a pub she owned.

I slipped into a deep depression that was lifted when I started to see a new lady.

 

She left me,

 

My sister helped me until she knew I would be OK. She then made me move into her home.

 

I was seen by a GP and referred to mental health services.

I was put on medication, and had a direct line to support workers.

 

Around this time I applied for a credit card.

I had nothing, and I guess (I honestly don't remember)

I thought it would make me feel good about myself.

(I had already pawned my wedding ring)

 

I made a few payments,

had to move in with mum n dad.

 

I moved to my brothers,

but I had to leave there,

moved in with an old school friend

- sofa surfing.

 

Sadly I had to move out, and was living in my car

- only for a few weeks, but it was bad enough.

 

As you can guess after a while I had stopped paying the credit card.

 

I'm not proud to say I often bury my head in the sand.

 

it's now 4 years later, and I have a job

- been working 6 months!

 

I have a flat I rent now.

Things started to look up.

 

I am now on different medication for acute depression and anxiety,

it's still there, but as i said things have been getting better.

 

My ex wife and I are on friendly terms,

and in July she is about to remortgage,

which means I should get about £40,000

- which although having a bad credit score I was hoping would help me secure a mortgage to buy my own flat and save me a small fortune in rent.

 

Until now.

 

Today I got a letter from nottingham county court telling me I have a debt of £1550, plus costs with a company called restons solicitors

- they are acting on behalf of Cabot who bought the debt from capital one.

 

I called the solicitors, and said can I sort out some payment plan.

 

They said the only thing I can do is pay it off in full with charges.

They were not willing to enter any payment plan, and stop the action.

 

I cannot raise the money unless I get a very high rate loan.

And I can't risk that.

 

I know lots will say it's only money - but I have just started to see sunshine, and now my only chance of ever owning my own place is fading fast.

 

I'm rambling. Sorry - You have no idea how long this has taken to write - I have deleted pages.

 

I am 49 years old, I know in 6 years noone would want to give me a mortgage.

 

Oh - I'm sorry.

 

When I told them i took the credit out during my worse mental health time the guy really seemed to sound concerned. He kept saying, but you're better now - seemed to be prompting me what to say.

 

I was wondering if any of you can advise me?

 

I'm not trying to get out of paying it at all.

I want my life on track - with a future that looks happy.

I can probably manage £50.00 per month, but it would be tight.

 

What can i do to get this stopped, or held up so i don't get a CCJ?

 

Is there anything?

 

I really am so sorry to get my point across.

 

thank you all for staying with this and reading to the end.

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hi

to allow us to have the correct info to advise you properly

 

 

please fill this out

and copy n paste the Q's it here and add you answers

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Name of the Claimant ? CABOT FINANCIAL (UK) LIMITED

 

Date of issue – 17 FEB 2017

 

Date to acknowledge 7th March 2017

 

 

Date to submit defence 21st March 2017

What is the claim for –

 

1.The claimant claims payment of the overdue balance due from the Defendant(s) under a contract between the Defendant(s) and Capital One dated on or about Nov 30 2012 and assigned to the claimant on Sept 24 2015

 

PARTICULARS a/c no *****************84845

DATE 30/01/2017 Item Default Balance 1550.00 Post Refri Cr NIL TOTAL 1550.00

 

What is the value of the claim? 1735.00

Is the claim for a current account (Overdraft) or credit/loan account or mobile phone account? Credit card

When did you enter into the original agreement before or after 2007? After

Has the claim been issued by the original creditor

or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Cabot

 

Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? No

Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? No

Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Default sums” – at least once a year ? No

Why did you cease payments? I was homeless, jobless, and quite frankly was having trouble remembering even usual thing in my life and couldnt even take care of myself physically. I suppose to put it plainly I forgot (I know this is no defence)

 

What was the date of your last payment? January 2014

Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No

Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan I remember speaking with stepchange just before i became properly homeless - living in my car. I cannot say for sure if it was regarding this debt, but I am over 50% sure I did.

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pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform.

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register as an individual

note the long gateway number given

then log in

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select respond to a claim and select the AOS box.

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then using the details required from the claimform

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defend all

leave jurisdiction unticked.

click thru to the end

confirm and exit MCOL.

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get a CCA Request running to the claimant

leave the £1PO blank and uncrossed

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get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors

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don't sign anything

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dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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yes MoneyClaimOnLine

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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all in post 4 already

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I'm filling in the CPR31.14 now. (I done the mconline bit.)

 

On the form mentions documents mentioned in the claim. But I can't see any mention of any documents on the claim form.

 

I'm probably overlooking something obvious, but I won't carry on with the form until I'm sure of what is needed.

 

Also the form looks like it is for overdrafts; is it ok to use this form for a credit card too?

 

Sorry again - I know I take up so much of your time, and really do appreciate it.

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IN THE POC BOX....

 

 

1.The claimant claims payment of the overdue balance due from the Defendant(s) under a contract between the Defendant(s) and Capital Onelink3.gif dated on or about Nov 30 2012 and assigned to the claimant on Sept 24 2015

 

PARTICULARS a/c no *****************84845

DATE 30/01/2017 Item Default Balance 1550.00 Post Refri Cr NIL TOTAL 1550.00

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I can't delete the bits of the CPR 31.14 form that are in black. Should I leave them all in? (I've tried doing it in web browser, and saved to my desktop with same result.)

 

Or is there a word version?

 

Once again sorry if you may feel I am wasting your time, the more I try the more stressed I am getting - I really want to get this right.

 

Thank you so much dx1000uk for your help so far.

 

I'm sorry - I just saw the plain text. I will copy & paste it into a word document.

 

I hate wasting your time panicking instead of calmly reading through.

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there you go easy when you think about it...

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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there is a current account and a credit card cpr 31:14

make sure you are using the correct one...

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you simply copy and paste from the correct one.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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the link for the CPR 31:14 you clicked takes you to the library not the cpr directly....

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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no scroll down there are TWO CPR31:14's

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?387484-LEGAL-CPR-31.14-Request-Request-for-information-when-a-Claim-has-been-issued.

 

Don't know if it will let me post a link, but it's the text written in this post that I have used.

 

Really must try to sleep. Please don't think I am ungrateful.

 

Many thanks

 

I saw the other one.

 

Glad to say i used the right one..

 

Phew..

 

Now to bed.

 

Night everyone, and thanks again.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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don't miss you defence filing date whatever happens

 

 

time to go read like threads now with your player

copy your thread title into the search cag box of the top red toolbar

 

 

the more you read the stronger we become.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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