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    • Please see my witness statement below.  Please let me know what modifications I need to apply.  I haven't included anything related to "administrative charge while paying by credit or debit card" as I wasn't sure if I should include since sign says "it may apply"   Background  1.1 Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of November 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.    Contract  2.1 No Locus Standi, I do not believe a contract exists with the landowner that gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” From PoFA (Protection of Freedoms Act) 2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-  (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or  (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44  For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.    Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed  3.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.  3.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.  3.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.  3.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.    Unfair PCN  4.1         As stipulated in Exhibit 1 (Pages 7-13) sent by DCB Legal following the defendant’s CPR request the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows £60.00 parking charge notice and will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue. The defendant puts it to the claimant a request for strict proof when the signage changed to show £100.00 parking charge as the evidence provided by DCB Legal stipulated £60.00 parking charge was indeed the parking charge at the time defendant parked and included in Exhibit 1   4.3        The Claimant did not respect PAPLOC   4.4        It is also unfair to delay litigation for so long and claim nearly four years' interest.    No Keeper Liability  5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.  5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.    5.3        The claimant did not mention parking period instead only mentioned time 20:25 which is not sufficient to qualify as a parking period.   Protection of Freedoms Act 2012  The notice must -  (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;      No Breach of Contract  6.1      No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY.  6.2        The wording “Electric Bay Abuse” is not listed on their signs nor there is any mention on the contract of any electric charging points at all let alone who can park there or use them.    Double Recovery  7.1        As well as the original £100 parking charge and £50 allowed court/legal costs, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  7.2        PoFA Schedule 4, paragraph 4(5) states that “the maximum sum which may be recovered from the keeper is the amount specified in the notice to keeper”. Which in this case is £100.  7.3        The Parking (Code of Practice) Act 2019 is also quite clear that the maximum amount recoverable is £100.  Government ministers and government web pages explaining the Act refer to extra charges as "a rip off".  7.4        Unless the Claimant can clearly demonstrate how these alleged additional costs have been incurred this would appear to be an attempt at double recovery.  7.5        Previous parking charge cases have found that the parking charge itself is at a level to include the costs of recovery i.e. Parking Eye Ltd vs Beavis (2015) UKSC 67 which is the authority for recovery of the parking charge itself and no more, since the sum £85 was held to already incorporate the costs of an automated private parking business model and the Supreme Court Judges held that a parking firm not in possession cannot plead any part of their case in damages. It is indisputable that an alleged “parking charge” penalty is a sum which the Supreme Court found is already inflated to more than comfortably cover all costs. The case provides a finding of fact by way of precedent, that the £85 (or up to a Trade Body ceiling of £100 depending on the parking firm) covers the costs of all the letters. Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court V Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practise continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (...) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6        In Claim numbers F0DP806M and F0DP201T, Britannia vs Crosby the courts went further in a landmark judgement in November 2019 which followed several parking charge claims being struck out in the area overseen by His Honour Judge Iain Hamilton-Douglas Hughes GC, the Designated Civil Judge for Dorset, Hampshire, Isle of Wight & Wiltshire. District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgement or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating “It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverable under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgement in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for a addi8onal sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998.  7.7        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.  7.8        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).  7.9        The Defendant is of the view that the Claimant knew, or should have known, that to claim in excess of £100 for a parking charge on private lands is disallowed under the CPRs, the Beavis case, the PoFA AND THE CRA 2015, and that relief from sanctions should be refused.    In Conclusion  8.1        I believe the Claimant has got use to intimidation tactics and has got greedy. I believe the truth of the manor is the Claimant has used bullying tactics successfully for too long and is therefore assured that innocent drivers will fall into the trap of paying rather than going through the hours it takes to defend themselves. In the process, wasting the time of the Court, the time of the Defendant and everyone else who has advised the Defendant, out of sheer decency to help have a fair hearing and see justice delivered.  8.2        I am still in disbelief that I am being heard in this court, defending myself nearly 4 years after receiving a charge through my door. I have had to spend weeks’ worth of my life studying the letter of the law in order to defend myself from this ridiculous attempt at a swindle.  8.3        I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. 
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Donbracho,

 

1. In these Mercantile cases, the Leeds Court do not seem to be bothering sending out the defendant's defence to the claimant. It seems to be that they are bypassing that and going straight on to the hearing stage, so don't worry. You can phone the Court if you wish just to amke doubly sure.

 

2. Did you get a copy from the Court of the defendant's acknowledgement of service form - if you did it should say on there the address at which to serve documents on the defendant. If you have not got that, then the safest way is send the copy of the CMI to the defendant at the defendant's address that you put on the original claim form. (If you are not taking the CMI to the Court in person, consider sending it to the Court by Royal Mail Special Delivery (£4.35), that way you can track it and know it has got there. It is up to you whether you do the same with the defendant's copy).

 

3. From the way things have gone at previous directions hearings it seems there is no need to take a full court bundle with you,but by all means take with you whatever documents you have to hand. I'm not 100% certain on this.

Have any other CAG readers got anything to add on this point?

 

PS: Zsazsa's post 50 was entered simultaneously with my post 51 and that seems to confirm point 3 above.

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hey there thanks yet again for the advice calculator panic set in this morning thats all !, i have read your thread zsazsa and it helped a lot too.

 

have been on the blower to court today and they have received a defence and acknowledgement of service from lloyds but couldnt find them so cant send out duplicates lol.

they said to send CMI sheet to lloyds reg address and to SCM.

am just looking for the letter to attach to SCM copy saying... here it is most claims are settled before so come on nudge nudge ! -

i will include schedules of chages too.

I was thinking about bringing everything i could think of cause of how sneaky Lloyds especially can be bearing in mind the two cases that they have "won".

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Hi Send your cmi to the court mgr, the addy will be on the very bottom of your letter, and one to your banks solicitors.

Jenny

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Don,

 

If your bank's solicitor has not been in touch with you at all yet, and you therefore have no solicitor contact/address to send it to, you should send the bank's copy of the CMI to:

 

1. If you have been sent the Acknowledgement of Service form that the bank sent to the Court, then it should show the bank's latest address where documents are to be served (sent).

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2. If you did not receive the bank's acknowledgement of service form, send the CMI to the bank's address that you put on the original claim form.

 

(I have covered all of this at post 15 on the sticky thread http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/mercantile-court-cases-stays/96212-case-management-info-sheet.html . Also see my note there about method of delivery).

 

Thanks for the info about number of cases. At 209 its a biggy. How many are shown as being settled on your list?

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Just logged back in after a few days away from the internet. Big thanks to zsazsa and j.barton1 for your reassurances. They are greatly appreciated. I am taking the CMI to leeds Court tomorrow in my lunch hour - can anyone give me an idea how long it'll take me and where I go when I get there as I have to then brave the Post Office in the centre too in order to post the CMI to First Direct and their solicitors?

 

Just one other thing...I promise...still a bit confused regarding costs, I've added them to the CMI form, but what about the Wasted Costs Order thingy that I've seen mentioned by BankFodder on here somewhere (but handily can't now locate). Seems this is separate to the costs asked for on the CMI sheet, so how does it all fit?

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Firstly parking is a nightmare near the court in Leeds so be warned, if going by car you could spend your entire lunchour looking for a free bay, and it's not cheap either.

 

When you go through the doors of the court, be prepared to be frisked and metal detectored. There's 2 armed police in the doorway. it's a very ood sensation.

 

The reception desk is facing you just over to the right. There's a wall with all the listings for the day stuck up on them, walk past those and the reception desk is on your right. They may take it or tell you which office to go to.

 

I put the claimant in person costs as the last item on the form.

 

The wasted costs only applies if they settle out of court and then you need to apply to the court for the order for what are your claimant in person costs.

 

Hope you can understand what I mean.

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Mothership,

 

A bit more explanation on the wasted costs order.

As far as I am aware it only applies if you actually get to the hearing date and the bank either does not turn up or settles at the hearing. It has dragged you along on the day when you had no need to go. Hence the term wasted costs order. I believe you present it to the Court on the day under thsoe circumstances, so no need to worry about it as far as the CMI submission is concerned. Thread http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/mercantile-court-cases-stays/85750-haved-youhad-your-time.html

 

PS: If the bank settle before the hearing date and you therefore do not go to the hearing, the wasted costs order doesn't come into it, but you need to get the bank to include in the settlement the costs that you inserted at item 35 on the CMI sheet.

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Thank you everybody, you are all very helpful and it is certainly appreciated. Last time I went to Court in Leeds it was for not paying my Poll Tax (1989 I think) at what is now an O'Neills Irish pub behind the Town Hall and I lost!:lol:

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Hi all,

 

Just completing my CMI and will be delivering today hopefully to Leeds for 28th hearing.

 

Quick question - what is the standard time for the claimant in person costs for questions 35 and 36 ??

 

I have spoken to Court today and they suggested I sent a latest schedule of charges, updated from my original claim way back in January - would you add to the bottom line either the court fee and the claimant in person costs or both ??

 

Thanks

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Replies to Apd and Don posts;

 

Apd.

 

Answered at post 19 on http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/show-post/post-915078.html

 

How many hours does yours add up to?

 

Don,

 

See the previous Leeds threads about what happens if the defendant does not turn up at the hearing - I think it might be the situation that the Judge suspends the case and orders the defendant ( and claimant) to attend at a later date.

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Is there any reason why most of you are personally handing in the CMI sheet? I am just doing mine and was going to post it?

 

Barclaycard have filed a defence to my claim. Is there any reason why I should not use Jenny's format?

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Is there any reason why most of you are personally handing in the CMI sheet? I am just doing mine and was going to post it?

 

Barclaycard have filed a defence to my claim. Is there any reason why I should not use Jenny's format?

Hi Stans, There is nothing wrong with posting it...unless you live/work near court...posting it is still the best option.

You have received a defence so the original cmi sheet stands...there was an issue before as some of the claimants havent received a defence...so one of the questions needed answering differently...but there is an amended copy lower down...

 

HTH

Jenny

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aaaargh ! hello all have just checked over the schedule of charges fro my partner and have entered 3 amounts twice so the total owed is incorrect its 3209 instead of 3364 !! is it too late to change it or are we gonna get laughed outta court ?

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Donbracho,

 

4 options;

 

1. Have you sent your CMI to the Court? If not you could correct the mistake at item 4 on the CMI but I think you would also need to complete an N244 form (Form N244 - application notice).

2. If you have already sent the CMI, you could send an N244 form. (You could also send with it a revised CMI sheet with explanation at item 4 on the sheet),

3. You could say nothing and leave it to the hearing and 'confess' when you get there.

4. The bank may try to settle before the hearing, in which case they would no doubt correct the figure as part of the negotiation.

 

First of all, why don't you phone the Court to see what they say is best to do. You still have sufficient time to correct matters.

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hey up calculator havent sent cmi sheet inyet just reviewing everything before we do so its not too late ey !

i will revise the CMI and send with the N244 as well just to on the safe side thanks again

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Donbracho,

 

At item 4 of the CMI sheet you could say something on the lines of:

 

'Whilst the principles of the case as stated in the Particulars of Claim on the N1 claim form have not changed, the claimant wishes to make minor amendment to the value of the claim, arising from a duplication of charges shown on the schedule of charges. The amount claimed is amended to £........ (in place of the original amount claimed of £.........). Attached is a revised schedule of charges dated ............'

 

(I am assuming your original claim was submitted on an N1 claim form rather than a 'money on-line claim'. If the latter, then word accordingly).

 

You will also have to amend the the interest claimed to take account of the duplicated charges that you are omitting. You will need to bring the interest into the wording.

 

In sending a copy of the CMI Sheet and revised schedule to the bank, this will also let the bank know of the reduced claim value.

 

I think the N244 is also needed, but not sure. It might be worthwhile checking with the Court as it will save you some time and trouble if it is not required. (If it is needed, also ask the Court if you are to send the N244 to the Court only, not to the defendant).

 

If the N244 is needed you could send a covering letter to the Court saying enclosed is the Case Management Information Sheet and the N244 form showing a reduced value of the claim.

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