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    • Hello, welcome to CAG. It would be a good idea for you to read other shoplifting threads here to get an idea of how this works. The police won't get involved now, so no chance of arrest. You need to avoid that branch of John Lewis for a while though. Basically, John Lewis's security people will give your details to either a firm like Retail Loss prevention or DWF solicitors who will then write to you with scary-sounding letters to frighten you into paying them some kind of penalty. They have no legal power and can't take you to court, only John Lewis can. Last time we saw a retailer in court against shoplifters, it went very badly for them and we haven't seen a case like that since - over 10 years ago. But you need to figure out why you did this. If you need support, talk to your GP and aske them. They will have heard it all before and won't judge you. Best, HB  
    • In addition to the information you've been given above, I suggest that you spend some time reading up on the stories on this sub- forum. There is a lot of information about suing as an entitled third-party. Take a couple of days – and by Monday you will be much more confident. More in control and you will have fewer questions to ask but the questions that you do think up will probably be more relevant and more interesting to your case. Do the reading. This is always an essential first step   Additionally please can you give us more details. What was the item, was it correctly declared, was the value correctly declared, what was the value that was declared? Very importantly what date did you send it?
    • I got caught today shoplifting some shampoo & conditioner at John Lewis. I felt absolutely awful. The people were quite nice as I returned the items without any hesitation, gave them my name, address & DOB. They did not ask for official ID, and let me go after taking my picture and then handing me a paper saying I am banned for life. I just now read on the paper that they may share my details with third parties (police) and am extremely stressed. I've previously shoplifted, not at this John Lewis but others of their stores (an absolutely horrible habit made worse by cost of living crisis).... How likely is it that they will actually start an investigation for this offense? May I get arrested for this? While I was in the backroom, the security was quite nice and told me that no police would be involved unless I broke my ban.
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Hi Blades,

 

Any chance of posting the document or a useable link.

 

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Blades,

 

It's OK - I found the info elsewhere thanks.

 

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yea its due to be heard in october ,different circumstances slightly though to the usual charge reclaim

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next-CCA turns up after they have committed offence,(30 days) S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) time!

monument -CCA not signed reported to TS for harrassment 1st letter sent TS are useless

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The main focus being that the bank was taking a lot in charges out of family credits/benefits leaving the family with little or nothing to live on.

 

The forum where I read this last night has now shut it's doors to non-members so I couldn't access this morning.

 

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Hi Steven,

 

Read through both the linked threads - there's passion and anger bubbling over here and it's great to see yet more inspiration for peeps who are following. Inspiration is what this site's all about - oh, and empowerment.

 

I'm not experienced enough to comment in detail on the content of your POC's - I've only just earned my Gold Badge which I noticed today!

 

I posted here because I'd heard from Johnnymitch in Barclays forum that Hobson had got his Stay lifted.

 

Have you seen the detail of the Torquay case which been de-Stayed.

 

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Can someone also clarify what the cost was for the N244 to be sent in cause I only paid £35 and Waxsyd the other person ive been speaking to was told they had to pay £65! Surely this is wrong to charge 2 different charges for the same thing, isn't it?

 

Sorry to hear that you misunderstood or were misinformed...Anyway the £35 fee is because like me you put the application in without asking for a hearing. If you wanted a hearing you would have to have paid the £65! So we got a result mate by being invited to one...Sorry other guys, but in hindsight I would have paid the £65 to get the hearing...

 

Hope that makes some sense,

 

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steven the whole benefit system is flawed to saw the least but when it comes to taking money off people that are only just coping is disgusting,the lady in question got her stay removed due to the bank taking benefits off her so its looking promising !

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marshall ward-no CCA

next-CCA turns up after they have committed offence,(30 days) S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) time!

monument -CCA not signed reported to TS for harrassment 1st letter sent TS are useless

associates visa-no CCA

think there might be a pattern here!?:lol:

GE Money- won

barclaycard-- N1 put into court

capital one - won

NatWest- won

 

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Hi,

 

Can anyone help. I have my letter from the court with regards to my hearing to lift the stay (copy attached). They also sent this back with a copy of my N244 form.

 

It does not say I need to take anything with me when I go to court neither does it say how long the hearing will be. Can anyone advise?

 

PS. It says the case may be refered to a different judge in a different court, is this likely to happen.

 

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It reads:

 

TAKE NOTICE that the hearing will take place on

29 Nov 2007 @ 2pm

at Sheffield Count Court

When you should attend.

 

Please note: This case may be released to another judge, possibly at a different court.

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Hi Hobson,

 

It's worth having a look through here http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/114505-bundle-stay-hearing.html in preparation for the hearing. You'll need to take along evidence to back up your application to have the stay lifted.

 

Click on the link in my signature for the new stays forum - you'll find a lot of threads in there with some excellent information on what to take with you to the hearing, what to expect, etc. x :)

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