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    • I see, shame, I think if a claim is 'someone was served' then proof of that should be mandatory. Appreciate your input into the WS whenever you get chance, thanks in advance
    • Paper trail off the original creditor often confirms the default and issue of a notice...not having or being able to disclose the actual copy or being able to produce a copy less so. Creditors are not compelled to keep copies of the actual default notice so you will in most cases get a reconstituted version but must contain accurate figures/dates/format.     .    
    • Including Default Notice Andy? Ok, I think this is the best I can do.. it all makes sense with references to their WS. They have included exhibits that dates don't match the WS about them, small but still.. if you're going to reference letters giving dates, then the exhibits should be correct, no? I know I redacted them too much, but one of the dates differs to the WS by a few months. IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim. 1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. 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I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • AMEX and TSB the 2 Creditors who you need to worry about the least, ever!  Just stop paying them and forget about it, ignore all their threat o gram letters.  Only if, and with these 2 it's a massive if, you end up with a claim form you need to respond, and there will be plenty of help here.
    • No, nothing from Barclays. Turns out i have 2 accounts on here, and i posted originally on the other one. Sorry about that.  
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woah im in shock!

 

When i ordered my statements from Natwest, they just handed them to me (6yrs worth) with no ID or security, so i told them about it in my complaint and how illegal it is.

 

Next minute, a delivery guy brings me a nice looking package, i open it to find that theres a natwest box saying 'sincere apologies for behalf of the team' from the manager of the branch in question.

 

Oh thats nice, i think...Only when i look on the internet (like you do, to see how expensive it is) i see its 'chilean value brand of the year.

 

Now what do i do?!?!

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DRINK THE WINE ;) AND START YOUR CLAIM.

A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.

 

 

Good things come to he who waits

 

 

Its your money taken unlawfully from your account and you have a legal right to claim it back.

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DRINK THE WINE ;) AND START YOUR CLAIM.

 

Luvvin' that post Parkie!!!!!!!! xxx :D

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Try the website simply thankyou, which is who natwest use. It is not buying you off it is a gesture for a breach by staff of DPA, what would like? a public hanging of the member of staff? I am sure that it could be arranged. Television cameras there maybe? I am sure the Daily Mail could arrange a photographer. The member of staff could be sacked i suppose, for not actually following bank procedure, which they clearly weren;t. And i am sure a fraudster just knew you were waiting for 6 years worth of charges on statements. Hey maybe he might even have claimed the money himself!!

 

Sorry for the sarcasm but come on, what would you want for a staff mistake? Sacking?

 

Ooooooooooooh nattie........... keep your knickers on honey!!!! And jimmyboy - if you don't want the wine.........send it mine and Fendy's ways!!!!!!!! Woohoo!!!!! xxx ;)

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Loving that memo! But I am now wondering if I should have made a comlaint about my statements. I requested them in my DPA SAR, they arrived on the 39 day, and they were in a plain white envelope that was all torn open, sent 1st class and didnt even require a signature. I did complain verbally to Stuart Higley who just appologised. I have worked in a bank for 17 yrs, and am examined on the DPA anually. I was so engrossed in getting these turkeys to pay my edited money back, that I never put my complaint in writing, even though at the time I was sure that they had to send this sort of sensitive material in a secure way, and in a manner which would require a signature from the recipient. It could have gotten into anyones hands, which would have been wonderful for the potential fraudsters out there. A bit silly me thinks! Oh well!

 

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Loving that memo! But I am now wondering if I should have made a comlaint about my statements. I requested them in my DPA SAR, they arrived on the 39 day, and they were in a plain white envelope that was all torn open, sent 1st class and didnt even require a signature. I did complain verbally to Stuart Higley who just appologised. I have worked in a bank for 17 yrs, and am examined on the DPA anually. I was so engrossed in getting these turkeys to pay my money back, that I never put my complaint in writing, even though at the time I was sure that they had to send this sort of sensitive material in a secure way, and in a manner which would require a signature from the recipient. It could have gotten into anyones hands, which would have been wonderful for the potential fraudsters out there. A bit silly me thinks! Oh well!

 

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Don't worry - at least you've got your statements now and can start your claim. And let's face it, you could've come unstuck yourself if you complained as you actually work in a bank (small world this banking world after all!!!). Good luck getting your cash back, hedgey xxx ;)

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Hedgey, you need to be careful if you quote people especially if potentially libellous words are used on a thread. not the OP by the way

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I just felt wound up that they would send me cheap wine through the post. Another thing that shows how sincere their apology is is the fact that they cannot even spell "Piccadilly" correctly?! Makes me chuckle.

 

I recieved a letter today saying that these incidents are extremely rare...ooops...wait, this is the branch that was on watchdog for binning sacks full of confidential waste in December!

 

I wonder if they wil send the refund cheque as fast as the wine??

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Correction to my last posting. Don't drink it cook with it. ;) Nattie don't send a possee out for me. 9.5billion

profit. You lucky they never sent you a case of it.

A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.

 

 

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if you all are interested in looking at how much the bank paid for the wine, rather than the cheap shots on profits, see the website for simply thankyou posted further on the thread

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Nattie i have the uppermost respect for you and the work you do on this site is second to none. The fact that you work for Nat West and disagree with their rate of charging that they have unlawfully inflicted on their customers. Deserves the upper

most credit that can be bestowed on you. It is very comforting to no that someone at Nat West does care, and no doubt there are many who work for Nat West who have the same sympathies as you." Cheap shots on profits. " A great proportion of those profits have caused bankrupcy, hardship and misery to many men, women and children. Not just on this site,but all over the UK. Reap what you sow. Made round to come round. All your chickens come home to roost. These all apply very easily to Nat

West. I really don't care about some bottle of wine, but like you Nattie i care about all these people fighting for their rights against the insatiable greed of this bank.

Nattie had to get that of my chest. Sorry

Jimmyboy sorry for hijacking your thread.

A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.

 

 

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Parkvale,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, my hero....... wow. What a completely accurate, heartfelt and brilliant little para. I agree with every last letter you posted there. Karma mate......... what goes around, comes around. We are not having pops at Natwest staff, but at the organisation itself. Im sure 95% of the staff are good decent hard working honest people, but is the 5% bunch of t*ssers that spoilt it for the rest, and the fact that whomever you end up speaking to there with any kind of problem, or crisis or anything, the all pass the book. You can never ever ever come across somebody, a person, a human being with a real name etc. etc. with whom the book finally stops with, for your personal account. At the end of the day there has to be one person who is accountable for helping with your problems, but there never is. Its faceless........... and ultimately that faceless organisation shows you the door the second you get into any kind of pickle. They are a business run for profit, I totally understand that, but whatever happened to a little compassion for customers who have normally run their affairs in very good order, but for whom hard times have hit............ they dont want to know. Thats the bottom line. But what they also forget is that many of those customers experiencing hardship ultimately can and do get themselves out of the pickle, no thanks to Natwest, or whichever bank they are with, and when they do, and theyre back on track again, how can we customers who have been shown the door to give them back our now very good business and account. Why should they be surprised when we close our accounts, because believe my, my manager on premium rate two years ago, almost begged me not to move accounts. It was embarrasing............. Story of life. They only want you when youre winning, and if you are a nobody, like most of us are, (to them anyway), then they are just not interested ever in helping out and extending the hand of help, even when the can see we have a perfectly plausible way of getting out of our situ given time and a good business plan. Nattie, I re-iterate everything above, you are a star, but stop taking the Nasty West thing so personally. You are merely a cog within a wheel my friend, nothing more. But a star on here. Chill Nattie, chill. Fendy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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And as usual very good advice Nattie. Fendy xx;)

Cheer up. Plenty of claims going in. The tide must be at a huge swell by now. Any news from an insider point of view i.e. from the head bods there about claims increasing, have they noticed the tide getting bigger and bigger. Wonder if makes them wonder about perhaps changing tactics at all. Maybe even turn up to court to defend and actually give account of their breakdown. Hum, just a thought. Hope they dont decide to do it with me. Heck, legs might turn to jelly mush. fendy x

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Jellymush ??

A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.

 

 

Good things come to he who waits

 

 

Its your money taken unlawfully from your account and you have a legal right to claim it back.

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I was only joking, but good to hear the true fendy transalation of it ;)

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