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    • She's an only child and he as a brother and sister. He has no will and we have done a check on this to find out if he had left one and nothing has come up. He has savings of around 28k His sister and brother are well off so 28k is nothing to them and aren't interested in his money. This just leaves my wife/his daughter. Would this still need to go to probate there is no estate e.g house or business to sell and the amount left in his bank is just small? When his wife died they just closed her bank account and moved her money across to his account and we just assumed that once my wife has handed in the death certificate and shown evidence of who she is the same would apply to her? We don't know yet the council have only just written to us today with a guide of what to do next.  
    • Did your FiL leave a Will and if so who is the Executor? Strictly speaking banks could refuse to take instructions until Probate is granted but In practice I would expect the bank to take instructions to cancel the DD if the Executor presents the death certificate and a certified copy of the Will
    • Hi   Sorry I probably wasn't clear enough. He had lived in the flat until December 2022 with Dementia by this time it was unsafe for him to have capacity to live on his own and he had to move into a nursing home. We had left it too late to apply for power of attorney so approached a solicitor in March last year for Deputyship. We were still in the process of dealing with it by May 2024. He passed away a few weeks ago and the solicitor was contacted to halt the application and we will just pay the fees of what work he has done up until now. My wife was the named person on her dads bank account but we didn't have the ability to alter any direct debits hence the reasons for applying for Deputyship as we were having problems trying to stop some payments coming out of his account Eon being another difficult company. We kept his flat on from December 2022 - August 2023. it was at this point I contacted Sancutary housing to inform them he was no longer living in the flat, it had been cleared out and was ready for a new tenant and that he had Dementia and had moved into a nursing home December 2022 and explained the reasons why we kept it on. As the named person to speak on his behalf I asked them what proof they needed in order to give notice on the flat e.g proof of dementia and proof that he was living in a nursing home and anything else they wanted. The lady in the upstairs flat and some of the other residence in the street had asked about him and we had told them he had moved into a nursing home. The lady in the upstairs flat wanted his flat for medical reasons so asked us once we had given notice could be let her know and she'll ask them if she can have it. We explained the difficulties and it was left at that but I did tell her I would let her know once notice was given. I contacted the company by email a number of times and also telephone conversations and nobody followed it up and it wasn't till the end of February this year that the housing manager for the area wrote to our home address to ask about him that he had been to the flat a couple of times and nobody answered and he had asked some of the residence in the street and they hadn't seen him for sometime. There was an email address on the letter so I contacted him and copied in the last 2 emails I sent Sanctuary regarding me wanting to give notice on the flat for at least 9 months explaining that it went ignored as well as telephone calls. I also stated I wanted to have his rent payments returned from the date I wanted to give notice which was from August 2023 as the bank wouldn't let us stop the DD without POT or deputyship explaining we were in the process of Deputyship. He gave some excuse about not having POT to cancel on his behalf and spoke to someone in HR and said he would contact the nursing home to confirm he was there with Dementia and if it all checks out we can give notice on the flat which came to an end on the 22 March 2024. There was not mention of back payments for the rent already paid or the fact I had asked to give notice in August 2023. Despite someone living in the flat from 1st April they continue to take DD payments for the flat and have taken another 2 payments of £501. another concerning thing despite Eon not allowing us to cancel the DD to his account the lady upstairs informed Eon that she was moving into the flat February 2024 and Eon refunding the account to his bank and said in an email sorry you are leaving us and canceled his account. Something they wouldn't let us do but a stranger. She also changed her bank account to his address despite the fact notice hadn't been given on the flat yet. So we need to find out how much information Sanctuary actually had for her to tell her power company she was moving into the flat in February despite the housing manager only just getting in contact to find out where he was. So a complaint is going into Eon and Sanctuary and we are going to take advice and ask the bank to charge back the rent. My wife hasn't taken the death certificate to the bank yet to inform them of his passing.  
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I recently found out that council sold my house to my ex. I was the original tenant and am not sure whether he even was on the lease, which I still have. I left when he became violent and the council didn't want to know. I did write to the council in 2005 to ask what criterion had to be met for purchase of the house and they said that he would have to either pay me out or get a signature from me relinquishing all rights to the property. Do I have grounds to sue the council? charlie

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When did you leave? What type of tenancy agreement have you signed? Who is(was) paying rent on the property?

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Hi, thanks for answering. It is a 'Secure Tenancy Agreement. I left early 98. I was responsible for the rent until then and the letter I received from the council in 05 does state that the non purchasing tenant has to agree to the sale whether I live there or not. Am I still able to sue? Cheers, Charlie.

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Sorry, just two more questions. When did you move in? And I think the EXACT wording of the letter from the council is important - could you post that please?

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When you moved out of the house did you sign a Notice to Quit? If not, you are still the tenant at that property, and in which case they can't sell it. If you did then your ex should've signed a new tenancy agreement and will have used his power of rtb under that.

 

If they signed up for a new tenancy then they should've got you to quit the old one, however, doesn't always happen

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No need to sign a NTQ to end a tenancy claire...

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I am not saying the tenancy has ended as such, but to end the tenancy there isn't a need to sign the NTQ. The council could have received an order of possession from the courts, or it could be argued that the tenancy was ended mutually. It does not appear that the former has occurred, I suspect in any court case the council would argue the latter - I am trying to get a full picture in order to see how justified such an argument would be.

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Hi, no I signed nothing at all when I left. My ex was about to remarry a few years later and give me back the house. That went wrong and he stayed. Up until recently the kids will vouch that the council magazine was delivered to that address in my name only. I did ask the council to send me a copy of the lease but they said they would only send it to the council house address and not to my own new address.

Yes of course you can have a copy, I can either email one or if you let me have an address, I'll happily post one to you.

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I forgot to add on that I signed the lease september 92 and i left around march 98. The original tenency agreement, which I have says that I was the only tenant. would it have been possible to have had him added on. I know he nagged incessantly about it but I just can't remember whether he actually signed anything.

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Did you hand in any keys on leaving the property? Or did you inform the council that you had left the property(I am assuming you did) in writing or by phone?

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You could ask for a copy of your file to see what paperwork has been signed.

 

The Council are not allowed to add a second tenant to an existing secure tenancy agreement, and if they have done that they would have created a new secure joint tenancy with both of you - from experience I do know that Councils have made this mistake in the past.

 

I'm not legally trained so I don't want to comment out of turn. If in doubt about it you could contact a solicitor for a free phone consultation or one of the free solicitor service.

 

This is a grey bit, so someone more qualified than me might want to comment. As you informed the Council you had moved out they could have taken this as you implying you didn't want the tenancy. Also, by them accepting payment from your ex they could be seen to have created a tenancy with him - the difficulty here is whether they can say you abadoned your tenancy and if you claim you had an intention to return then they can't argue that, but don't know who it is down to prove that.

 

Also, when the RTB was put in by your ex he must have been a secure tenant for them to allow him to buy it. Usually files are checked for this so not sure where they got the information from, I would request a copy of your file.

 

By the way, when did he buy the property, was this before or after you told them you'd moved out?

 

Hope this helps and doesn't waffle too much.

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The problem is that by vacating the property and ceasing rent payments, the council could well argue, perhaps validly, that you had implicitly terminated your tenancy. Whilst I do not neccessarily agree with it, from a legal point of view they would probably be correct - I think it would be difficult for a court to side with you stating you are still a tenant, when you have not been resident in the property, nor paid rent, for 7 years. However - if the council have recognised you as a tenant in the letter they sent, this would be a different matter. However, this would have to be an EXPLICIT reference IMO. This is not a simple situation, and if you are considering taking it further I must advise that you consult with a specialist.

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I have to say I agree with you Mr Shed that this is a difficult one. I

 

would still request a copy of your file and if they refuse to send it to a different address (which I can't see any reason for). Advise them you will collect it and take ID and a copy of your tenancy agreement.

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Thanks, I'll get in touch with them in the morning. As far as I'm aware they never even knew I was not there. They were still sending the letters to me and I have never had any other form of communication from them. He bought the place within the last 18 months.

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In which case you must have had a joint tenancy? Otherwise they would be chasing you for rent.

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Depends if he ever went behind with the rent and he could've acted on your behalf to negotiate repayment agreements - which they could've failed to check he had authorisation.

 

Once you get your file you need to check if there are any reference to you leaving and any signing of new paperwork.

 

They must have based is application to buy based on some paperwork. If not, I don't understand how he's bought it unless it was fraudulently.

 

If it was a joint tenancy then you would still have had to sign to agree to him buying it - which could tie in with what you said the letter said about buying it.

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He wouldn't move out, at the time the police were unable to do anything because it was classed as a domestic and he paid the rent at times from the start of the tenancy so he would just carry on after I left. What I can't understand is that if he did join the tenancy then how comes I havent got any other paperwork than the original tenancy agreement?

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I've just requested the file by email from the woman at the council who sent the email telling me I would have to sign an agreement. I'll keep you posted on any answer! It may well have been fraudulent as he bought it after he got married. If they thought it was me then it should be interesting!

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Just a quick one,

My Ex and I took a council property, the day my wife went into labour with our first child. I hurridley went to council offices to pick up the keys signed tenancy agreement and went to join wife in hospital.

12 yaers late my wife buggered of and applied for another council house in another area (same council though). I was served with notice to quite as the house was to big for a man on his tod. I used my right to buy which was rejected as a notice to quit had been served.

I went all the way, the council (LEEDS SHITY) took me to county court to have me evicted. I fortunatley at the last minute, just before going before the judge, noticed on the tennancy agreement that I was the only signatory. Judge ordered in my favour. and also compensated me for the loss of equity in the 12 months from being denied my righ to buy and arriving at court to be evicted.

 

My home was valued at 48k I was awarded 20k in compensation, this was eight years ago. The house in now worth in excess of 220k.

 

So it pays to go all the way.

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