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I received this lovel communication from Robinson Way. Instead of tearing it up as I usually do I read it

 

Dear XXX

 

On behalf of our client Cabot Finacial we have sent you a whole series of letters, we have tried to telephone you and our local representative has repeatedly called at your address all with no success.

 

Our client wants full payment etc etc

 

 

Our client may be willing to accept a reduction in the amount you owe.

 

If you wish to take advantage you must telephone so that we can conclude the deatails.

 

yours faithfully

 

I may be new here but is this not just one firm of Parasites acting on behalf of another. If I send the CCA letter to Robinson Way they would probably have to pass the account back to their clients Cabot who Im sure could not comply with the 12 day rule. Any ideas

 

As regards their local representative calling on numerous occasions. BALLS. I thought they had to advise you of a visit. Besides I am on long term sick and am in the house most days

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Write to Robinson Way and tell them you do not acknowledge any debt to them or any company they may purport to represent. Tell them the matter is therefore in dispute and you require details of all previous letters sent as well as details of their representatives visit includes dates and times.

 

Then send a CCA letter - see the stickys - to crapbot and wait for them to default. Remember to send it recorded delivery and keep the receipt. Any further letters you recieve keep them carefully. When they default report them. If they, or Robinson Way, keep sending you stupid demands you can tell them to either get stuffed or invite them to take you to court and persuade a judge to make you pay. They won't!

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So the CCA should go to CRAPBOT rather than Robberson Way

 

No No...send it to Robinson way...I can tell you here and now what they'll do..They'll accept the £1 as payment...LoL...Let them...Then sit back for 40 odd days until they've committed a criminal offence...Robinson way are owned by London Scottish Bank btw...Go to templates, CCA letter..Send it to Robinson way...

Just hate every DCA out there

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bump did you get anywhere on this in the end?

If my advice has been helpful please feel free to click on my scales :grin:

 

Creditors and DCAs - Letter Templates & Budget Planner (CCA request letter N)and other templates)

 

Debt Collection Agencies & Statutory Demands, a few strategies

 

Abbey charges, Won

B-card non-disclosure of S.A.R, WON £30 costs awarded

B-Card, court for harrasement, failed to defend WON £175 http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-debt-issues/125554-28-days-later-no.html#post1422508

B-Card charges, partial refund, still fighting

Vanquis-Cabot, GIVEN UP :lol:

HFC & my mum, no brainer, no CCA http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-debt-issues/133330-hfc-my-mum.html#post1404514

 

PLEASE donate to CAG however small. They are fighting for YOUR rights as a consumer. http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/

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I have tried this total ignore policy with a few DCAs and it seems to work. They threaten me with all sorts I ignore them and they pass it to some other ****. As each day passes I get nearer to the magic six year mark. I know they have diddley squat so i just ignore their silly letters. None despite all their promises and threats have instituted any legal proceedings against me yet

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i guess they left you alone since ?

If my advice has been helpful please feel free to click on my scales :grin:

 

Creditors and DCAs - Letter Templates & Budget Planner (CCA request letter N)and other templates)

 

Debt Collection Agencies & Statutory Demands, a few strategies

 

Abbey charges, Won

B-card non-disclosure of S.A.R, WON £30 costs awarded

B-Card, court for harrasement, failed to defend WON £175 http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-debt-issues/125554-28-days-later-no.html#post1422508

B-Card charges, partial refund, still fighting

Vanquis-Cabot, GIVEN UP :lol:

HFC & my mum, no brainer, no CCA http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-debt-issues/133330-hfc-my-mum.html#post1404514

 

PLEASE donate to CAG however small. They are fighting for YOUR rights as a consumer. http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/

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Robbo Way are acting on behalf of Cabot with me. I CCA them and they have sent PO back and said they are requesting CCA from Cabot!

 

Go Figure

[COLOR=blue]THAMES CREDIT: STATUTE BARRED LETTER SENT [/COLOR][COLOR=red]No reply[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]HILLSDEN SECURITIES: CCA REQUESTED [/COLOR][COLOR=red]No reply[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]ROBINSON WAY: CCA REQUESTED [/COLOR][COLOR=red]In default, 30 days up 6th April[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]LOWELL: CCA REQUESTED [COLOR=red]In default 30 days up 6th April made offer for F&F - refused [/COLOR] :D [/COLOR]

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Robbo Way are acting on behalf of Cabot with me. I CCA them and they have sent PO back and said they are requesting CCA from Cabot!

 

Go Figure

 

yup,

 

p.s this old thread so might not get much response, i'm just having a clear out of threads :)

If my advice has been helpful please feel free to click on my scales :grin:

 

Creditors and DCAs - Letter Templates & Budget Planner (CCA request letter N)and other templates)

 

Debt Collection Agencies & Statutory Demands, a few strategies

 

Abbey charges, Won

B-card non-disclosure of S.A.R, WON £30 costs awarded

B-Card, court for harrasement, failed to defend WON £175 http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-debt-issues/125554-28-days-later-no.html#post1422508

B-Card charges, partial refund, still fighting

Vanquis-Cabot, GIVEN UP :lol:

HFC & my mum, no brainer, no CCA http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-debt-issues/133330-hfc-my-mum.html#post1404514

 

PLEASE donate to CAG however small. They are fighting for YOUR rights as a consumer. http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/

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they are trying to sell there door step lending division which lost 22 million last year

go on must be worth a quid

they cold alway sell the debts to them selfs and increase rw `s assets

by 22 million

see good accountants can spin anything

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I realise this thread is old now, but I thought I would share my experiences of this company, Robinson, Way & Co.

 

It started about five months ago. They claimed they were collecting a debt for British Gas. My husband advised them that we had not been customers with BG for eighteen months and that we had settled our account with them shortly after we switched supplier. He insisted they collect evidence from BG that we owed them money.

 

All went quiet for a couple of months and then the letters and phone calls resumed, this time, apparently, they were collecting for Cabot Financial.

 

We have ignored Robinson Way. Recently the letters changed, they now claim that my husband made a payment plan with them and has defaulted on that agreement. They are lying.

 

They regularly call the house at 8pm, which I find unacceptable and they won't take no for an answer. We rarely open the letters any more, we know what they say and it's all a bunch of nonsense.

 

If anyone has had success at getting rid of them for good, do please say how.

 

Thanks.

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I first took a lone out with HFC bank in the early 1990s I asked them various questions if ever I became unemployed through ill health or any unforeseen circumstances would the loan payments be paid by my policy what was part of the loan agreement.

 

the gent in the bank told me certainly its in black and white in my policy agreement all money would be paid by their insurer with my pol agreement.

 

I dont read paper work as its a load of crap people who write these clauses must have a second home called library because they spend more time looking info up to rip customers off.

 

To cut a long story short I have paid various debt collectors a lot of money through the years hoping my balance would go down but no the more money they asked for the more interest would be put on my bal.

 

Then HFC bank advised westcolts to take my account over again paid them ex amount of money.

 

This is the bug bearer westcolts handed over my account to rob way they are the most unhelpful people ignorant **** agrrement to pay monthly installments of 10 pounds been paying over 8yrs and just before xmas ceased to pay as I sent them 2 letters and 1 letter to HFC bank without any response.

 

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Now a rude women phoned me up only last week after all that time and told me my account is under reveiw and their client has asked for 25 pounds or legal court proceeding take place I asked for all documents to see if my account is still ative why women said I can assure Its still active I said I need proof and put phone down on them.

 

 

 

3 days ago received letter saying all of data letter correspondence at your request will be sent thanks for you coop.

 

Now playing the waiting game rob way play mind game try to bully people to summit for their own pleasure sad blitters.

 

What advise would anyone reading this article have for me is their any monies I could reclaim of the robbing so and soes.

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What advise would anyone reading this article have for me is their any monies I could reclaim of the robbing so and soes.

 

You'll be unlikely to reclaim any of the money you've already paid.

 

HOWEVER:

 

Send all your debt collectors a copy of letter N in the letter templates section:-

 

Enclose a pound with each letter (postal order, rather than cash or cheque).

 

Send recorded delivery, keep the receipts, DON'T SIGN.

 

DON'T TALK TO THEM ON THE PHONE!

 

If they can't supply a VALID copy of your original credit agreement, then tell them to go forth and procreate, and stop paying them - it's the Consumer Credit Act 1974 - if they can't supply a copy in 12 days, you don't have to pay any more until they do.

Carpe Jugulum

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