Stop The Pay As U Go Road Tax

[nogard23]

Difficult to see how this could be a "stealth tax" if the Gov. are publishing details and everyone knows about it. Tax,yes. Stealth?No.

[gwc1000]

Methinks there might be more fly tipping coming

[falcon185]

Thats the problem nogard23, not everybody knows about it, this has not been publicised so to speak, all they have done is post it on No10's website, unless you visit it, you wont know about it until its too late, downright stealth if you ask me!!

[nogard23]

A tax for saying no? I would refuse to pay it! But then i would be taxed again!

[saint-luco]

absobloodylutely stop it now

[nogard23]

Think about it, Falcon. A transmitter in every vehicle, huge factories belching out smoke making them ,hundreds of orbiting satelites, huge buildings full of civil servants tracking our every move and sending out summonses, not very stealthy.

[falcon185]

So have you signed up nogard?? ;-)

[saint-luco]

but isnt that great

[falcon185]

Not stealthy once implimented nogard but stealthy in actually initiating it dont you think??

[falcon185]

In response to your mention of hundreds of orbiting satalites nogard, there is sufficient already orbiting, all they have to do is reprogram on mother earth ;-)

[falcon185]

And as for hundreds of civil servants tracking vehicles, ever heard of computers?? lol and computer generated letters/bills?

[nogard23]

Everything this government does is underhand deceitful. It looks like we are going to get a PM by stealth. King Tony chooses his sucessor.

[falcon185]

I have to say though from initially posting this has started quite a healthy debate

[falcon185]

So what happened to the Democratic vote?? If Tony resigns then they should have a leadership vote, once a new leader is elected then they should disolve Parliament and have a General election, let the people decide who leads the country not in house so to speak!!

[gwc1000]

I do think if road pricing is introduced that lots of motorists will plan their journeys to avoid motorways as they will be the most expensive and opt for the "B" roads as they will be cheaper. This will be bad news for people living in villages. I travel from the South to Manchester on a regular basis and I have never and will never use the M6 toll. And I know lots of people the same. Since it was introduced I have only once got held up on the M6 at Birmingham.

[falcon185]

I think you may well be right gwc1000, a lot of people would decide to use "B" roads, I think in all honesty this has not been well thought out by the Government/D.O.T. It seems there are a lot of issues to be resolved before they could impliment such an impacting plan.

[seadart]

Thank God Air and Sex can't be taxed! Come on all sign up

[gwc1000]

Another question- what about people visiting GB from Europe who bring their car with them. Will they get free use of our roads?

[hagenuk]

This all comes down to one thing, money. This scheme is expected to raise £28 Billion a year for the treasury and is based on the EU Galileo project. The EU is pressing for road pricing to be imposed across the EU to common standards, which must include paying for the use of their Galileo GPS system.

 

Thus not only do these madmen want to take us to a 21st century version of 1984, where Big Brother knows where everyone is all the time, they want us to pay for it and to subsidise their Galileo system, which is of course essential to any military ambitions of the EU, as they cannot rely on the free of charge US system not being switched off or made inaccessible if they do something military the US disapproves of.

 

It has a lot less to do with this Government and a great deal more to do with what the EU have decided is best for us.

[falcon185]

Bump!!

 

Anyone signed it?

[stan5131]

just signed falcon. hope its not too late.

[falcon185]

Thanks Stan, no its current until the 20th of this month so your not too late m8. ;-)

[seadart]

1.5 million have signed and rising, but the the mp's don't like it and are saying they'll ignore it!

[falcon185]

How can they ignore the very people who voted them in as their MP to voice our opinions not their own!!! It seems they forget the real reason why they are there not to tow the party line!!! Makes your blood boil!!

 

1.5 million, shouldnt that tell them something?

[gwc1000]

Their argument will be that 58 million haven't signed. One alternative that hasn't been considered is why don't we just accept that there is and there will always be some congestion at certain times of the day and live with it? If it's a choice between paying more or just putting up with the congestion I'd rather accept every now and then sitting in a traffic queue rather than being priced out of my car.