Parking Eye/DCB Legal ANPR PCN claimform - Ignored everything - Two Saints Retail Park***Claim Discontinued***

[alittleobstructive]

ParkingEye charge, ignored and now have a county court claim for £270.

 

I don't know how long my alleged overstay is stated but my Google Maps history has me in the vicinity for 1hr and 7 minutes. 

 

Gonna contest. I ignored as I thought a minor overstay would be filtered out of their winnable cases.

 

Need to acknowledge receipt of claim form ASAP but need help in forming a defence and getting disclosure of what they have against me.

[honeybee13]

Hello, welcome to CAG.

 

We need to ask you for information in order to advise you. Could you fill in as much as possible from the first sticky thread and then give us details about the court claim from the other sticky.

 

 

 

Best, HB

[alittleobstructive]

CCBC Northampton 

 

Name of the Claimant :

ParkingEye LTD

 

Claimants Solicitors: DCB Legal LTD

 

Date of issue – 03 Feb 2023

 

Date for AOS - will be doing this tomorrow on my laptop which is in work tonight

 

Date to submit Defence - 

 

What is the claim for –

 

1. D is indebted to the C for parking charges issued to vehicle ****** at Two Saints Retail Park.

 

2. The PCN details are 08/12/2021 ******.

 

3.The PCN was issued on private land owned or managed by C. The vehicle was parked in breach of the Terms on C's signs (the contract) thus incurring the PCN.

 

4. The driver agreed to pay within 28 days but did not. D is liable as the driver or keeper. Despite requests the PCN is outstanding. The contract entitles C to damages.

 

AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS

1. £170 being the total PCN and damages.

2. Interest at a rate of 8% per annum pursuant to s.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate of ** until judgement or sooner payment. 3. Costs and Court Fees.

 

What is the value of the claim?

Amount Claimed £185

court fees £35

legal rep fees £50

Total Amount £270

[dx100uk]

pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform

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register as an individual on the Gov't Gateway Site
Go to HMRC's login page.

Click the GREEN sign in button.
Click “Create sign in details”
Enter your email address where asked.
You will now be emailed a confirmation code. ...

You will now be issued with a User ID for your government gateway account.
 note down your details inc the long gateway number given, you might need it later.
 

then log in to the MCOL Website

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select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box.

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then using the details required from the claimform

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defend all

leave jurisdiction unticked.

click thru to the end

confirm and exit MCOL.

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get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?486334-CPR-31.14-Request-to-use-on-receipt-of-a-PPC-(-Private-Land-Parking-Court-Claim

type your name ONLY

no need to sign anything

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you DO NOT await the return of paperwork.

you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform.

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the defence you will eventually be filing is further down in the court Q&A you filed out above

 

but thats not due for a good few weeks yet.

 

your best bet now is to use our enhanced google searchbox

 

Parking Eye PCN Claimform

 

read a good few 10's of the threads listed nd then comeback with any outstanding questions.

 

di you also ignore their letter entitled letter of claim? that would have had a reply pack wanting thing like I&E list?

 

dx

 

[alittleobstructive]

Thanks. I understand this process now.

 

The defence will be probably to do with time actually spent parked and time allowed for reading a contract, entering and exiting the car park.

 

Depending on what evidence they provide of course.

 

[lookinforinfo]

Your PCN will tell you how long you overstayed for.  I would be surprised if it is only 7 minutes since you should be allowed a minimum of ten or fifteen minutes  overstay depending on the size of the car park. So the quicker we see the PCN the quicker we can work on your defence.

The good thing about you ignoring them to date is that you have not revealed to them who was driving. 

 

We will look forward to seeing what you have tomorrow.

[alittleobstructive]

GPS is pretty accurate. It has my movements all day. It's gonna be more a less 7 minutes and Parking Eye have form for over exuberance 

[dx100uk]

parking time will only play a part further down the process at disclosures stage.

 

you dont 'give away' or play your cards in your defence.

 

if its at all possible, bar the letter of claim 'pack' and bar the court claim pack.

 

is it possible for you to scan up to one mass pdf both sides of every letter to date?

read our upload guide very carefully 

 

[alittleobstructive]

Yes although I only have what arrived today from this Bulk Northampton Court

[dx100uk]

where is it all?

you binned it?

 

dx

 

[alittleobstructive]

Yup, always ignored private PCNs. Lesson learned 

[Nicky Boy]

11 hours ago, alittleobstructive said:

Thanks. I understand this process now.

 

The defence will be probably to do with time actually spent parked and time allowed for reading a contract, entering and exiting the car park.

 

Depending on what evidence they provide of course.

 

Obstructive,

be sure not to confuse your "defence" with your "witness statement" (which comes much later on).

The defence is basically just saying "yes, I want to defend". The witness statement is your detailed legal argument.

 

The initial defence you will file is as described in post 4 by DX above.

The idea is to use something bland and not to give any advance information to the fleecers of your full legal arguments.

 

[dx100uk]

id normally say await the CPR return for the documents ( not that that matter for your defence)

 

but i think its wise you send Parking eye an sar in this instance

 

dx.

 

 

 

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[alittleobstructive]

AOS submitted 

 

Letter as below written.

My only confusion is that about documents mentioned in particulars of the claim.

Have I rightly noted the PCN there?

or should I just leave that as documents listed below?

(template removed - please read the red at the top - dx)

[dx100uk]

just send the cpr as is.

 

dx

 

[alittleobstructive]

I haven't submitted my statement for defence as yet but the Court Date is set and DCB Legal are calling me to arrange a discussion where they'll probably just knock a few quid off the bill they'll expect me to pay.

ANPR had me in and out of the parking area an hour and 13 minutes apart. 1st hour is free.

I have evidence I wasn't there that long and that it was difficult to park that day. Don't want to say too much as I don't know who reads these.

Any advice on this conversation later today?

I may also need some help with my defence statement I will be submitting shortly.

[AndyOrch]

Topic merged ,if your topic is locked please report it to open rather than start another topic on the same issue.

 

Andy

[dx100uk]

you've already filed your defence last year (which was??  please post it up)

it witness statement time to be exchanged 14 days before the hearing date which is?

i notice we've still zero documents in the thread, did they reply to your CPR request? or since with it all.

if so we need to see EVERYTHING they've sent, bothsides, scan upto one mass PDF.

stop worry about readers here ...so what!!

thread title updated

dx

 

[Nicky Boy]

40 minutes ago, alittleobstructive said:

Don't want to say too much as I don't know who reads these.

Makes absolutely no difference. If you read a few other topics, you'll see that the only thing you need to do is anonymise any uploads.

To help you any further, we really need a lot more information.

Can you please upload evrything you have to date?

Ooops, cross posted with dx, but you get the general idea...

[dx100uk]

41 minutes ago, alittleobstructive said:

Any advice on this conversation later today?

you never ever converse on phone email nor by txt.

nor on the day before you both go in..

[Nicky Boy]

Yep, refuse the call.

Also, if they have your email, you need to write and tell them NOT to use it!

You really should have been keeping us in the loop on all this...

[alittleobstructive]

Well they have called twice now and not followed up with a call when I wasn't busy.

I can scan all the docs later but everything went as expected with the process.

I gave a breif defence initially as advised. They sent me all their info initially, photos of signs and the car park and my car going past the ANPR at stated times. I refused mediation as I don't feel I owe them anything so obviously not going to do a deal.

My witness statement and final disclosure before Court date in March is all that's left to do. 

My Google Timeline has me there for 1hr and 7 minutes. I was clearly actually parked less that that. I remember the day was flash floods and parking was a little more difficult than usual. That's the basis of my defence. 

Sorry, I kinda just got on with things.

It's been 11 months. I understood that at some point I would just go to court and I was comfortable with that.

I have some experience in court

[Nicky Boy]

There's probably going to be a lot more to your defence, but at the moment, we're just guessing. Need uploads

 

[dx100uk]

post up the defence you filed

its very important we see these documents they have sent.

we cant help you on a WS until these are done - as simply as that.

[alittleobstructive]

 

 

There's the N180 form I filled in. I have that. Can't remember the form I filled for the defence.

2023-03-09 DCBL CPR Reply.pdf