UKPC/DCB(l) ANPR PCN Letter of Claim now claimform - Crown Point shopping PARK, Junction St, Leeds, LS10 1ET

[wakeyshakey]

 

Hi All

 

I hope you are well.

I need your assistance please..I received a letter of claim from UK Parking control LTD for "parking longer than the maximum period permitted" at a shopping centre in leeds.

This was in 2020 so and dont recall much about the incident so sending off an SAR today

Do I need to do anything else while waiting for their response.. ie.. snotty letter to DCB Legal?

 

Thanks

 

1 Date of the infringement 16/12/2020

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] Not sure as this was years ago

 

 

[scan up BOTH SIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide] please LEAVE IN LOCATION AND ALL DATES/TIMES/£'s

 

3 Date received Not sure as this was in 2020
 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] I am requesting an SAR to check this

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? SAR requested
 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] NO
 

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up N/A
 

7 Who is the parking company? UK Parking control Limited

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Crown point shopping centre, leeds
 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.

 

There are two official bodies, the BPA and the IAS. If you are unsure,

please check HERE

 

If you have received any other correspondence, please mention it here

 

Copy the windscreen or ANPR section to your thread and answer the questions... Will do once SAR received

……....

In either case scan up bothsides of any letters/tickets in or appeals made out to ONE MULTIPAGE PDF ONLY

 

2023-03-17 DCB(L) Letter of claim.pdf

[lookinforinfo]

I did hope that you would include the original PCN so that we could see if it complied with the requirements of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. If it doesn't comply PCM can only pursue the driver and are unable to transfer the charge from the driver to the keeper should the driver not pay.

It is important then that if contacting PCM you do not say" I parked "or "I paid"  instead of" the driver parked" or" the driver paid" in case you were the driver.

If you can still locate it can you please post it up.

In the meantime could you please post the questions asked below. [And thanks for posting up the details on post 1].

 

 

[FTMDave]

Not at court claim stage yet LFI.

 

@wakeyshakey Yes, you need to get a snotty letter off to the fleecers to show that you'd just be a big headache for them if they did do court.

 

 

[wakeyshakey]

Hi LFI

 

I have posted an SAR requesting so my info. I don't have a copy of the PCN and have moved addresses since.

 

Hi FTMDave / All

 

I've made a rough draft of the snotty letter. Please advise of any changes I should make. 

 

Thanks

 

 

Dear Bill and Ted,

 

Cheers for your Letter before Claim.  I rolled around on the floor in mirth at the idea you actually thought I'd take such tripe seriously and cough up.

 

There is absolutely no intention of contributing to your healthy income by paying the sum mentioned to your client, UK Parking Control. It’s ridiculous that you believe people will fall for this type of nonsense. Regarding your overinflated Unicorn Food Tax, here is some homework for you and your greedy clients. Go and look up what the Protection of Freedoms Act Schedule 4 has to say. Good luck getting away with that one in front of a judge! I can assure you I will certainly not be doing so, as I am fully aware your claim has no basis in law, please do some research and read up on this!

 

I could go on, but I have better things to do with my time. In conclusion, I am not paying these daft claims, and I will not be responding to any more of these harassment letters unless you wish to waste the court's time, where I shall be sure to request an unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g).

 

COPIED TO UK PARKING CONTROL LTD

[dx100uk]

are bill and ted dcbl?

 

dx

 

[FTMDave]

No, Yasmin & Jamie are  https://dcblegal.co.uk/team/

 

[wakeyshakey]

Yes, Bill and Ted are.... but I'll change it to Yasmin and Jamie

[FTMDave]

Well after that change it looks good to go to me.

 

Invest in two 2nd class stamps tomorrow and get two free Certificates of Posting from the post office.

[wakeyshakey]

Hi FTMDave

 

Thanks for that

I'll get the letters sent tomorrow

 

[wakeyshakey]

Hi Guys

 

Hope you're having a good weekend. 

I sent the SAR and received a response asking for a copy of my Driving licence and a copy of my V5C .

Is this something that i need to or should sent to them before I can receive copies of data that they hold on me?

 

Thanks

[dx100uk]

have you moved in recent times?

[wakeyshakey]

Yes I have. I moved about 2 yrs ago

[dx100uk]

send them a ctax bill copy

 

they are entitled to confirm your id as from the incident in 2020 you now have a diff address

can i just check without having to scroll back

that to date all the letters have come to your new address from them?

dx

 

[wakeyshakey]

Hi DX

 

Thanks for your reply.

Sorry I should have also mentioned that this is a separate SAR. I found a letter from my previous address for a parking charge I received from Eurocarparks so i sent them an SAR as well and received a response a few days ago asking for my V5C and a copy of my Driving licence.

So you're saying to send them a copy of my Council tax statement and not my driving licence and V5C?

I havent yet heard from DCB legal and UK parking control about the letters i sent to them

 

Thanks

[dx100uk]

click sar read all the posts

 

as this is for another speculative invoice 

please start a new topic!!

 

i question why you need to send an sar rhere is no need, !!

 

start a new topic

fill out our sticky please!!

 

dx

 

[wakeyshakey]

Hi DX

 

I sent an SAR as I dont have details of the PCN and asked them to also update my address so i dont get a backdoor ccJ.

If I do need assistance with this as well, I'l lstart a new thread

 

Many thanks

Edited April 17, 2023 by wakeyshakey

[dx100uk]

ok well atleast it updates your address and the sar is free.

 

 

[wakeyshakey]

Hi

 

I sent UK Parking Control, the Parking company this thread is relating to. I also included a copy of my Council tax.

 

They have replied asking for a copy of my V5C, Proof of address and my Driving licence.

 

They are the ones that sent me a Letter before claim to my current address and now demanding these documents before providing the SAR

 

Is this now standard practice and do i need to send copied of these documents?

 

Thanks in advance

[Nicky Boy]

No!

 

CT bill is adequate.

 

Guys, looks like another SAR non compliance claim may be on the way.

 

In my opinion, just let it lie, then issue a letter of claim 30 days after your original SAR.

 

Let's see what the others think...

[wakeyshakey]

Thanks Nicky Boy

 

I'll await replies

[dx100uk]

agreed 

[FTMDave]

Agreed too.

 

Strange there wasn't all this concern for identity when they were sending out their demands for money.

 

Come back here on 5 May when the 30 days are up.

[brassnecked]

Absolutely no need to send 2 forms of ID to fleecers Ctax bill more than enough. the clock is ticking for them after 30 days you can do something to them if you wish.

[wakeyshakey]

Hi

 

I have received the above response from DCB legal in response to my snotty letter. I am not able to scan it just yet so thought I would type it out. I will upload the copy Parking charge letter that was included as soon as I can

 

Thanks

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Dated 18 April 2023

 

We write in response to your letter received by us on the 12th of April 2023

 

We note within your response you believe the amount to be inflated. Please not the balance is £100 for the parking charge and £60 for debt recovery cost. Please note you were given the opportunity to pay the reduced amount of £60 if payment was received within 14 days of the date of the parking charge notice (PCN). Please see evidence of the PCN enclosed. However, the charge has been increased as payment was not made, please refer to the evidence of the final reminder enclosed.

 

Please note as stated under POFA, as stated on your PCN, should you not pay the amount in full within 28 days, you will be liable to pay the unpaid charge. As you did not file a successful appeal, with our client, appeal further with POPLA, nor did you make payment for the outstanding balance within 28days prvided, this firm has been instructed by our client to retrieve the outstanding balance of £160.

 

Please not, pursuing a legally owed debt is not harassment. You may wish to seek independent legal in this regard. Our client pursing this matter through the small claims court is the correct course of action

 

You now have 30 days from the date of this letter to pay the outstanding balance of £160.00.

Failure to make the above payment will result in a claim being issued against you without further notice

 

DCB Legal

[dx100uk]

usual twaddle

 

dx