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no SB clock stops on claimform issuance.

if it does get autostayed

then it will cost them £275 via an N244 to attempt to lift the stay.

of which the court will write.

 

dx

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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costing more money they might never get back.

you need to understand that these tactics are the only ones any DCA/debt buyer can ever do. they, legally, are totally powerless, which is why they try to use the courts, to hope people wet themselves and cough up.

 

threaten, intimidate, embarrass, etc etc are their only tools.

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I received the attached the other day from drydens and was just wondering whether it required a response or if it had any purpose.  No change in status at MCOL.  Defence showing as last action, will this update to stayed ever? Many thanks 

 

text of letter below.. Wondering the purpose of it and whether I should reply. Thanks

 

 

Edited Letter2.pdf

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how come they have your email?

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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thread tidied.

 

how come they have your email address?

 

4 hours ago, scottles37 said:

No change in status at MCOL.  Defence showing as last action, will this update to stayed ever? Many thanks 

 

On 17/01/2023 at 10:05, dx100uk said:

there will be no notification nor update to it being autostayed

 

as for that pdf.

not important simply ignore .

 

arrows always try and return the legal fee for a CCA request.

in most arrow threads here already

 

dx

 

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and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Ok .thanks. Sorted.

 

They do have my email from another case many years ago. But that letter was hard copy forwarded to myself 

 

I don’t need to keep checking mcol?

 

They will update me if anything changes?

 

Would be nice to have 100% closure on this but I guess that’s not possible.

 

Thanks for all your help along the way. 

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I would be responding to that letter to inform them that it must not be used towards the balance as that will reset the limitations. (irrespective of the clock stopping) it may start to tick again if the claim remains stayed or is with drawn.

 

The payment must be treated as the statutory payment pursuant to sec 78 of the Credit Consumer Act as per the act but if they wish to refund it that's their choice but will be treated as payment for your request.

 

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no demand they do it as per the consumer credit act.

state clearly that the £1 PO was the FEE under that act for requesting a copy of the agreement and should this ever be subject to further action, this letter will be used as evidence.

 

dx

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I am thinking of sending the below by post. Would be grateful for your thoughts. Many thanks

 

I refer to you letter dated 19th January 2023 regarding the cheque for £1 that you claim to have cashed.

This cheque must not be used towards the balance, the payment must be treated as the statutory payment pursuant to sec 78 of the Consumer Credit Act as per the act. This was clearly stated in my previous letter dated 22ndNovember 2022 which included this statutory fee where I requested a copy of the credit agreement relating to your claim. Should this matter ever be subject to further action, both these letters will be used as evidence.

 

Whether you chose to refund this payment or not, it will still be treated as the statutory payment for you to provide me with a true copy of the credit agreement relating to the above account, together with any other documentation the Act requires you to provide.

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means nothing really.

 

drydens are not a DCA they are solicitors.

dont forget arrows have various DCA trading names too. 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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no thats not what it means.

 

as explained earlier, the claim is autostayed now

it will cost the claimant +£275 to lift the stay .

but without paperwork ....not a chance

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Understood. So worst case, I get informed of new paperwork and stay is lifted and we carry on. Best case I don’t hear anything again but will not really know 100% if it’s done and dusted. 

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n244 from the court.

 

very rare

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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dead now autostayed.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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