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    • I have just read the smaller print on their signs. It says that you can pay at the end of your parking session. given that you have ten minutes grace period the 35 seconds could easily have been taken up with walking back to your car, switching on the engine and then driving out. Even in my younger days when I used to regularly exceed speed limits, I doubt I could have done that in 35 seconds even when I  had a TR5.
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    • Thank you for posting up the results from the sar. The PCN is not compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4. Under Section 9 [2][a] they are supposed to specify the parking time. the photographs show your car in motion both entering and leaving the car park thus not parking. If you have to do a Witness Statement later should they finally take you to Court you will have to continue to state that even though you stayed there for several hours in a small car park and the difference between the ANPR times and the actual parking period may only be a matter of a few minutes  nevertheless the CEL have failed to comply with the Act by failing to specify the parking period. However it looks as if your appeal revealed you were the driver the deficient PCN will not help you as the driver. I suspect that it may have been an appeal from the pub that meant that CEL offered you partly a way out  by allowing you to claim you had made an error in registering your vehicle reg. number . This enabled them to reduce the charge to £20 despite them acknowledging that you hadn't registered at all. We have not seen the signs in the car park yet so we do not what is said on them and all the signs say the same thing. It would be unusual for a pub to have  a Permit Holders Only sign which may discourage casual motorists from stopping there. But if that is the sign then as it prohibits any one who doesn't have a permit, then it cannot form a contract with motorists though it may depend on how the signs are worded.
    • Defence and Counterclaim Claim number XXX Claimant Civil Enforcement Limited Defendant XXXXXXXXXXXXX   How much of the claim do you dispute? I dispute the full amount claimed as shown on the claim form.   Do you dispute this claim because you have already paid it? No, for other reasons.   Defence 1. The Defendant is the recorded keeper of XXXXXXX  2. It is denied that the Defendant entered into a contract with the Claimant. 3. As held by the Upper Tax Tribunal in Vehicle Control Services Limited v HMRC [2012] UKUT 129 (TCC), any contract requires offer and acceptance. The Claimant was simply contracted by the landowner to provide car-park management services and is not capable of entering into a contract with the Defendant on its own account, as the car park is owned by and the terms of entry set by the landowner. Accordingly, it is denied that the Claimant has authority to bring this claim. 4. In any case it is denied that the Defendant broke the terms of a contract with the Claimant. 5. The Claimant is attempting double recovery by adding an additional sum not included in the original offer. 6. In a further abuse of the legal process the Claimant is claiming £50 legal representative's costs, even though they have no legal representative. 7. The Particulars of Claim is denied in its entirety. It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief at all. Signed I am the Defendant - I believe that the facts stated in this form are true XXXXXXXXXXX 01/05/2024   Defendant's date of birth XXXXXXXXXX   Address to which notices about this claim can be sent to you  
    • pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’.  Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time.  You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID.  You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.<<**IMPORTANT**  then log in to the bulk court Website .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website .get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?486334-CPR-31.14-Request-to-use-on-receipt-of-a-PPC-(-Private-Land-Parking-Court-Claim type your name ONLY no need to sign anything .you DO NOT await the return of paperwork. you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform.
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Hello

 

Ok, will do.. I'm terrible around a computer.

 

I've removed the above and will re post now.

 

I'm having to wait until I get a handle on this as I only seem to be able to attach the first page of each PDF to one document...

 

So frustrating...it's embarrassing how awkward I am around I.T.

 

I've honestly spent about 2 hours today trying to save previously written documents into PDF and create a separate folder.

 

Help will arrive this afternoon so will up load then.

 

Thank you

 

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If you are using word.

 

Simply remove any identifiers in the files text then do file, save as , and select .pdf from the drop-down menu.

 

Then select where to save it.

do that for each file not a pdf.

 

Then put your other pdfs in the same folder.

 

Then goto one of the many free online pdfmerge websies, drop and drag all the pdfs onto it 

Hit merge and save the merged files back under a new name.

 

You might have to do that in 2 lumps, then merge those to one file .

 

If you see the file size is greater than 4.8Mb, then use an online pdfreducer site to shrink it 

 

 

If all fails I'll give you a secure email to mail files too redacted or not or pdf or not and I'll do it for you.

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thank so much for your help.

 

I have now completed an attempt via my phone..which I'll upload now as a start

 

Thanks once again

 

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Draft Set Aside Application.pdf

 

 

I can already see that Ive printed off documents to scan which have errors on...

 

Will amend accordingly - assume all this is draft for now

 

Thanks...

 

They are not my amended ones...

 

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Yes, it's a draft - but it's an excellent draft.  Well done.

 

In your proposed defence you might as well stick in that the claimant is suing the wrong person.  Their claim should be against the driver of the vehicle and they have not established keeper liability under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.

We could do with some help from you.

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Hello

 

Thank you for your interest.

 

 I'm still waiting for the set aside date to be set.

 

I have the confirmation that the court received my application etc but have not had a date through.


I’m surprised at how long it’s taken and had thought that perhaps I’d been lost in the system but apparently not.

 

I will update this post when I have more information and will detail the result of the hearing once I eventually have one.

 

Thank you once again.

 

 

 

 

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You're right, it is taking a hell of a long time.

 

Thanks for coming back and updating us.

We could do with some help from you.

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Good afternoon

 

I contacted the court via email and telephone and as yet the only information that I have regarding this process is that a judge had the case details on the 7th March.

 

I have also been informed that I will be notified if any progress within 5 days - 5 days ago.

 

A very long drawn out process going on here…

 

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Thanks for keeping us informed.

 

This has taken a hell of a long time, but as you say, at least you have a date to work to.

 

The one good side of this taking for ever is that it should muddy the waters re who has been responsible for such a long timescale and help hide the fact you delayed the application by six months.

 

For completeness can you please upload this latest order from the court?

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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we dont allow JPG's as those can be posted directly to a msg and then everyone members or not can see them.

we use PDF as you have to be a member to see those and then we know the enemy are not members to see things.

 

just convert to PDF using the websites listed in upload

and hit choose files at the bottom of the msg box.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Good luck with this.  I've just pointed out your set aside application WS to a new user as an example to be followed - it was the best example I could find on the forum!

We could do with some help from you.

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