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I don't think the Sunaks are going to have a good weekend, are they?

 

After the tax trusts there"s also the question of what the IRS are going to pick up on and want to talk to them about because of them having green cards until pretty recently. A friend worked for an American owned multinational and says the IRS were really tough about pursuing tax they thought was due, even with people who went back to Europe.

 

I really can't understand how it's OK to be chancellor and hold a US green card for 16 months during that time while promising to live in the US forever and pay tax on your worldwide income.

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He'll likely still be moving there once he fails to get PM job

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back to energy

So why isn't the gov making it very very beneficial to have solar panels put on every suitable roof?

- perhaps a system where its installed for free, the freeholder owns it - the first 5 years electricity goes into the grid and the gov (taxpayer) gets the credit to pay back the installation costs  .. from then on it reduces the properties bills ..

 

the sort of capital investment that pays - rather than just short term profit to pals for nowt

 

(thats a summary as we know most people dont read more than a few lines)

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but even more than addressing energy needs, this needs to be addressed

 

"Thousands of people have signed a petition demanding accountability for politicians who do not tell the truth in parliament."

 

"“It is ridiculous that you have a system where the speaker can throw an MP out of the House of Commons for accusing somebody of lying, but an MP who is lying cannot be sanctioned in any way”

 

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Investigation by The Independent reveals that at least 27 false statements by ministers have not been corrected

 

 

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As our elected representatives, MPs owe us the truth. And yet, we have a political system that operates as if honesty doesn’t matter.

 

 

Full Fact said that failing to correct the record on repeated false claims in parliament meant Mr Johnson “is in breach of the rules of the House of Commons and the ministerial code”.

 

 

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Ongoing Brexit 'benefits ... (Partly = 'only' 95%)

 

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2 hours ago, tobyjugg2 said:

back to energy

So why isn't the gov making it very very beneficial to have solar panels put on every suitable roof?

- perhaps a system where its installed for free, the freeholder owns it - the first 5 years electricity goes into the grid and the gov (taxpayer) gets the credit to pay back the installation costs  .. from then on it reduces the properties bills ..

 

the sort of capital investment that pays - rather than just short term profit to pals for nowt

 

(thats a summary as we know most people dont read more than a few lines)

 

no comments?

Ok - how about the main profiteering energy companies are made to pay for (and quality assure) the solar installations in lieu of a windfall tax, for which they get the half the electricity generated for the next 5 years (or they credit the bill with 50% of the households unit cost for whats generated - they are getting the installation sites rent free) while they manage a transition to greener local energy .... then its the leaseholders

- they will get smart meters rolled out as part of it too - likely to require them

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Bear in mind TJ that unless you have a battery back up charged from the panels and a trip to cut the link to main and allow the battery to then power the house via a suitable inverter in event of power cut, the power goes off in an outage even if panels generating.  Thats what an installer told me.

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18 hours ago, tobyjugg2 said:

 

 

Breaking News .. Corrected

 

Shes gonna pay UK tax voluntarily

 

LOL - shame they haven't addressed the real issues so promptly

- I didn't think her not paying tax was a real issue .. She isn't a brit.

 

- get our Chancellor and Russian oligarchs paying - now that would be a story

 

 

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1 hour ago, brassnecked said:

Bear in mind TJ that unless you have a battery back up charged from the panels and a trip to cut the link to main and allow the battery to then power the house via a suitable inverter in event of power cut, the power goes off in an outage even if panels generating.  Thats what an installer told me.

 

Too True HB - which is why the mention of smart meters (meaning smart management/control system)

- but trying to keep it quite simple. Batteries could add quite significantly to the implementation costs but possible no reason why it shouldn'y be available as an option

 

Put Martin Lewis in overall management oversight with veto and no none disclosure so the populists dont just use it as another rip-off

 

 

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LOL, Sunak really has lost the plot politically hasn't he (not that he was politically asute IMO)

 

Hes apparently ordered an investigation into the 'leak' by a 'labour supporter'

 

1, Why was it a 'secret' to be 'leaked', apart from all his denials?

2. Since when has Johnson been a labour supporter?

3. Shame he doesn't investigate tax dodgers as promptly or forcefully as he orders an investigation into 'leaks' about his own families UK tax dodging eh?

 

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“We need urgent answers from the chancellor as to why he has been linked to a tax haven", Labour's Pat McFadden said.

 

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i know the news outlets are selling her as a possible .. but is that realistic, or are the news outlets reporting that .. creating it HB?

 

I know we ended up with Johnson, but Macron is no Corbuncle.

 

 

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I find it interesting that Sunak has apparently had removals in moving loads of their stuff out of downing street

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Yes, you wonder what Sunak's up to and the timing is interesting. A lot of people think he's blown his chance of being PM, so could he consider going back to the US?

 

That Marion lady is a serious journo and I'd say it's certainly a possiblity that Le Pen could win enough votes, although I haven't seen any polls saying what people might do in the second round. It's important for Macron to step up now and persuade people he's worth voting for in two weeks' time - and not just to keep Le Pen out.

 

Some of the losing candidates have advised their followers to vote for Macron and the left wing man Melenchon said not to vote for Le Pen. He didn't seem able to bring himself to say to vote for Macron though and abstentions may not help. Most of the other candidates seem to think Le Pen is a bad choice, apart from Zemmour of course, who got 7% of the vote and made a 'victory' speech. He's recommended his followers to vote for her.

 

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Yes, you wonder what Sunak's up to and the timing is interesting. A lot of people think he's blown his chance of being PM, so could he consider going back to the US?

 

Sunak to US: You know that green card I put on hold ....

.. and referred himself to "Boris Johnson’s independent adviser on ministerial interests"

... Now that its ministerial interests' rather than 'standards' theres only the independent bit which clashes with the reality of the English used.

Surely that should be:    Boris Johnsons'  'independent' adviser on ministerial interests.

 

So who was the 'source' of the leak?

1. Johnson? 10-1

2. Truss?  8-1

3. Johnson + Truss? 8-1

4 A labour supporter 1-40

 

 

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That Marion lady is a serious journo and I'd say it's certainly a possiblity that Le Pen could win enough votes, although I haven't seen any polls saying what people might do in the second round. It's important for Macron to step up now and persuade people he's worth voting for in two weeks' time - and not just to keep Le Pen out.

 

Some of the losing candidates have advised their followers to vote for Macron and the left wing man Melenchon said not to vote for Le Pen. He didn't seem able to bring himself to say to vote for Macron though and abstentions may not help. Most of the other candidates seem to think Le Pen is a bad choice, apart from Zemmour of course, who got 7% of the vote and made a 'victory' speech. He's recommended his followers to vote for her.

 

 

Hopefully its just like Farage in the UK..

 

 

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If I had to be investigated as a minister, I'd probably want Lord Geidt as well.

 

I wonder what the leak inquiry will find. Reading yesterday's comments, a lot of them aren't ruling out that Johnson or no10 were involved and the timing was very political.

 

It's worrying that they're saying it's a criminal offence to reveal someone's tax status, although someone did say they thought that might only apply to HMRC employees.

 

Personally I think that kind of thing should be in the public domain for anyone becoming an MP because of the potential conflicts of interest. I see Javid has said he was a non-dom as well now, although Jolyon Maugham thinks he may have underplayed the length of time it lasted.

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The leak inquiry will find no fault, that's preordained whether there is fault or not

 

That the inquiry will not look at the simple facts that these tax havens shouldn't exist as a mechanism for 'not un-legal' tax evasion is the real issue.

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Met is dragging it out as much as possible despite Cover-up Cress gone.

 

Shows that the met issues are far deeper than just c-u-Cress

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what about repeat offenses? Johnson (allegedly) has a handful or more event attendances doen't he?

Mind you he'll blame anyone else .. including nut nut and the dog was the organizer ...

 

Didn't think fixed penalties included a '12 other offenses whitewashed with the one'

err 'other offenses taken into consideration'

and I thought the fines/penalties rose exponentially when repeated?

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So lets see

* Unlawfully prorogued parliament

* Repeated false statements in parliament - aka lying - confirmed as lying as uncorrected (x a couple of dozen at least)

* At least a couple of financial fiddles/inappropriate holiday gratuities etc

- some corrected after being caught (its OK Judge, I'll give the car back i stole - alls good - jog on and bye bye)

* Breaching his own lockdown rules

 

I'm sure I've missed dozens and dozens

 

 

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11 minutes ago, tobyjugg2 said:

what about repeat offenses? Johnson (allegedly) has a handful or more event attendances doen't he?

Mind you he'll blame anyone else .. including nut nut and the dog was the organizer ...

 

Didn't think fixed penalties included a '12 other offenses whitewashed with the one'

err 'other offenses taken into consideration'

and I thought the fines/penalties rose exponentially when repeated?

 

Nobody's letting on the number of people being fined compared with the number of fines being issued. 

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Large gatherings of more than fifteen people

£800 (reduced to £400 if paid within 14 days)

Doubles with each subsequent offence

 

 

£6,400 (for the fifth and subsequent offences)

 

 

 

Illegal raves and large gatherings of more than thirty people

£10,000

£10,000

£10,000

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In fact, given the egregious nature of these apparently repeated/ongoing offenses at the time, why are they getting fixed penalties rather than criminal charges?

 

Image if lucy donner poppy smith on the estate had thrown 100 person parties and held regular drinks every friday at her semi garden?

Ordinary people at the time were being threatened for simply talking to neighbors over a fence

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Wonder if sunak has reinstated his green card and booked a flight yet?

 

Forcing a by-election in a safe Tory seat is possibly all hes got left to repay Johnson for the 'leaks'

... and of course, the Tories winning the safe seat would see Johnson claiming it shows support for himself.

 

Looks like the only alternative for sunak is under Johnsons thrall.

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