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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
    • Thanks for all the suggestions so far I will amend original WS and send again for review.  While looking at my post at very beginning when I submitted photos of signs around the car park I noticed that it says 5 hours maximum stay while the signage sent by solicitor shows 4 hours maximum stay but mine is related to electric bay abuse not sure if this can be of any use in WS.
    • Not sure what to make of that or what it means for me, I was just about to head to my kip and it's a bit too late for legalise. When is the "expenditure occured"?  When they start spending money to write to me?  Or is this a bad thing (as "harsh" would imply)? When all is said and done, I do not have two beans to rub together, we rent our home and EVERYTHING of value has been purchased by and is in my wife's name and we are not financially linked in any way.  So at least if I can't escape my fate I can at least know that they will get sweet FA from me anyway   edit:  ah.. Sophia Harrison: Time bar decision tough on claimants WWW.SCOTTISHLEGAL.COM Time bar is a very complex area of law in Scotland relating to the period in which a claim for breach of duty can be pursued. The Scottish government...   This explains it like I am 5.  So, a good thing then because creditors clearly know they have suffered a loss the minute I stop paying them, this is why it is "harsh" (for them, not me)? Am I understanding this correctly?  
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Quote of the day regarding arch Brexiter Tim Martins withered-poons beer and staff shortages

 

"Blimey, at this rate even Tim Martin's going to admit Tory Brexit's screwed up the country before Keir Starmer does."

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Tim Martin apparently wants special visas for EU bottle washers and bar staff .... and EU lorry drivers, and EU students ... without whom his business seems to be failing ...

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As if he hasn't done enough damage already, Demonic Cummings is writing in his [paywalled] blog about organising a political movement with the help of Silicon Valley billionaires.

 

This movement is to find a Republican candidate who can be chosen in preference to Trump and beat Biden in 2024. He says that it's possible for a small team, like the one he had in the UK, is able to take over a government.

 

He wants this person, if elected, to close down the Pentagon and replace it with 'ABC' and get rid of a lot of federal government. Unsuprisingly, he has no ideas of what to replace them with.

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Boris does not look very well.

 

I thought recently he might have to stand down soon and be replaced.

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Who would the Tory party accept as leader  ?

 

I think it would be a run off between Gove and Rishi Sunak.

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and all they need(ed) to do is actually have basic customs processes and labelling in place like any 'sovereign' nation

.. or simply agree not to fall back from existing standards with the EU - and in doing so do FAARRR less damage to UK business

 

It aint difficult, any half way competent developed nation could do it in far less than 5 years ...

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You don't read of any progress being made, do you? There are lorry parks in Kent, but have they hired border guards or built customs posts, etc?

 

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I wonder how long the EU will live with constant extensions of the time limit when nothing seems to be happening.

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The Uk isnt applying rules (that they haven't implemented) to the EU are they - apart from hostile environment ... bacause 'hostile environment' is all they have implemented

... likely hoped that the EU would reciprocate allowing the UK cake and eat it by the back door

- but the EU did the work defined by the UK requirements of 'UK sovereignty from standards' even if the UK didn't

 

There seems to be hardly a week go by without the populists piling even more shame on our Nation.

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Income tax increase to pay towards care costs is fairer, provided some of this money is reserved, so it can used later on. 

 

Government should look at how to provide lower cost care. When a care home room costs £40000 per year average and staff are on minimum wage, there is someone making money from this. Should never let investment companies buy care home chains, as they are more interested in profit than care.

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I agree about income tax being a fairer way to raise the money. Pensioners on low incomes aren't paying any anyway.

 

Agreed about venture capitalists as well. They could be the next to find they don't have enough staff. I read earlier that carers are leaving to go and work for Amazon and the like for more money. I think they're very undervalued. 

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As if he hasn't done enough damage already, Demonic Cummings is writing in his [paywalled] blog about organising a political movement with the help of Silicon Valley billionaires.

 

 

This lifts the curtain slightly on the two main sets of players

 

Right wing capitalists - who seem to largely fund Johnson and (Murdock is a player in this IMO but there are far worse in the US - but Murdock revs up the noisy minorities)

Russia (who largely manage this as war) - who seem to be the ones spreading disinformation and support which helps Johnson, but who were more focused on Trump/US and Farage/european theatres

 

Then theres China ... and Turkey as the significant bit player.

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Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

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Demonic has spoken to Steve Bannon in the past, hasn't he? I can see his influence in the wrecking concept.

 

Bannon was supported by the mega-rich pro-Brexit Mercers for a while, they've been linked with Trump, Farage and Cambridge Analytica.

 

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Johnson is a dead man walking like Biden, seen the dark circles around his eyes?

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The bailiff: A 12th Century solution re-branded as Enforcement Agents for the 21st Century to seize and sell debtors goods as before Oh so Dickensian!

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Lord Frost is obviously talking nonsense.  EU does not need the UK, but the UK really needs the EU. 

 

As a small island that still relies on financial services too much, UK can't start picking fights.  UK has trade negotiations going on and trust is very important.

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Quote of the day:

"England has become a country where the pubs have no beer, farmers don't have anyone to pick their fruit, & even if they did there aren't enough lorry drivers to get it to the shops."

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Jonty Bloom has an article on the problems with the supply chain.

 

“The government has done little or nothing since the Brexit referendum to prepare for potential staff shortages.. It wasted 5 years.. seemingly terrified of admitting that Brexit is causing any problems at all, (it) is silent.”

 

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The UK’s supply chains face more problems every day. So why the denial over what helped cause this, and where is the strategy that will resolve it?

 

 

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Problem with labour shortages and training, is that central Government bark out orders from Westminster, as if they can solve long term issues simply by willing results to be achieved.

 

In regard to HGV driving courses, for unemployed or those on very low income, there have always been free or reduced rate courses available. But you need to have training capacity from many different providers in each area of the country. This takes time to arrange and requires a significant level of investment. 

 

So yes had Government injected billions in training schemes 5 years ago, we would not be having these issues. And also they should have looked to retain more foreign workers.

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