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    • statute barring in Scotland is 5yrs from last payment/use date or date of default Notice + 14 days, whichever is the later. dont confuse that with the 6yrs debts show on credit files (DN's 6th bday regardless to payment or not). they'd never get a claim raised by august in 99% of cases . as long all these debts were taken out whilst resident in scotland and you have not moved since taking them out but failed to inform the original creditor before the debt sale....... then stay radio silent until sb date is reached. then if you wish send our scottish sb letter. just remember unlike E&W in scotland debts are extinguished, dead , gone , parrot. once SB'd dx  
    • Hi all, Love this site and it's no nonsense advice, have dipped in and out of the consumer forums over the years, mostly to assure myself that what I was doing was the right thing when dealing with various businesses (almost 100% success rate, thanks in part to reading and more reading here.). Anyway, the time is almost approaching where I might need to ask for some specific help and I have a couple of queries that I can't see definitively answered. Due to financial mismanagement and severe anxiety issues I stopped paying all unsecured debt in December 2018 (one slipped to the first week in Jan 2019 when the last payment was made having rechecked my bank statement from that period - all my unsecured debt direct debits were cancelled in early Jan 2019). This has left half a dozen debts;  a couple of credit cards, a bank loan, Shop Direct and some Hitachi Finance stuff having been sold on and passing the rounds through the usual suspects, Lowells, Link, PRA Group, others related to them, and then back to them again. I have somehow successfully managed to maintain radio silence and avoided anything more worrying than their begging letters.  I have blocked their phone calls and texts, bumped all emails to the spambox and had a chuckle at their desperate letters.  I've never had anybody at the door.  I have been at the same address since before I defaulted and all correspondence comes to my current home address.  I have NEVER contacted them or admitted any debt. In anticipation of them perhaps ramping up action at the last minute I've had a look at my credit report on Credit Karma (rec'd from this very place) and I see that the default dates on these range from May 2019 to November 2019. Also in preperation I've been reading, reading and reading lots here as advised. Obviously being in Scotland there are a lot fewer posts relating to these matters and it's always quite annoying when OP's do not follow up with any outcome on their cases - how rude! This has also left me a bit confused of when I am able to finally breathe easy (although cancelling all the direct debits in Jan 2019 was the biggest sigh of relief as I knew it was all going to be unmanageable and, well, default one, default all.). I've been reading that defaults should be filed 3-6 months after the missed payment but one of my larger debts was defaulted on 27th August 2019 when the last payment I made was 10th December 2018, meaning the first missed payment was 10th Jan 2019.   My query for now is - when should I infer that these debts are prescribed?  From when the payment was missed, or taking the default date plus 5 years from the credit report? The three I have with the May date are moot anyway as either way they are gone  - some letters from Lowell offering me 90% off to settle is what got me thinking these must have been near SB status, however I have one big 10k+ with a July date and another 10k+ at the end of August I am feeling a bit anxious again, even though I know there is nothing to worry about with the begging letters.  Reading the various forums I am not sure why the OC's didn't take action against me when I read time and again the surprise that other posters haven't already been taken to court for lesser amounts - I'm also surprised I've avoided any action this long as there are plenty in this forum and sub forum who are whisked off to the court by the beggers minions after only a year or so after defaulting.  There are no CCJ/decrees listed on my credit report and I have not received any such judgements against me.  I still just regularly receive the begging emails to the spambox, the blocked phone calls and the letters from the they. I'm also reading that there is no need in Scotland to send an LBC so what should I be looking out for to know that the time has come to engage with CCA requests etc? I'm afraid in a fit I threw a lot of the paperwork out but I have a box of stuff I'm going to go through which may have the original letters from the OC's. Thanks in advance for any advice.  
    • I'm at work now but promise to look in later. Can you confirm how you paid the first invoice?  It wasn't your fault if the signal was so poor and there was no alternative way to pay.  There must be a chance of reversing the charge with your bank.  There are no guarantees but Kev  https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/09766749/officers  has never had the backbone to do court so far.  Not even in one case,  
    • OK  so you may not have outed yourself if you said "we". No matter either way you paid. Snotty letter I am surprised that they were so quick off the mark threatening Court. They usually take months to go that far. No doubt that as you paid the first one they decided to strike quickly and scare you into paying. Dear Chuckleheads  aka Alliance,  I am replying to your LOCs You may have caught me the first time but that is  the end. What a nasty organisation you are. You do realise that you now have now no reason to continue to pursue me after reading my appeal since you know that my car was not cloned. Any further pursuit will end up with a complaint to the ICO that you are breaching my GDPR.  Please confirm that you have removed my details from your records. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I haven't gone for a snotty letter this time as they know that you paid for your car in another car park. So using a shot across their bows .  If it doesn't deter them and they send in the debt collectors or the Court you will then be able to get more money back from them for  breachi.ng your data protection than they will get should they win in Court-and they have no chance of that as you have paid. So go in with guns blazing and they might see sense.  Although never underestimate how stupid they are. Or greedy.
    • Thank you. Such a good point. They did issue all 3 before I paid though. I only paid one because I didn’t have proof of parking that time, only for two others.  Unfortunately no proof of my appeal as it was just submitted through a form on their website and no copy was sent to me. I only have the reply. I believe I just put something like “we made the honest mistake of using the incorrect parking area on the app” and that’s it. Thanks again for your help. 
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no you get reading up.

 

1000's of vanquis claimform threads here.

cag is selfhelp too.

 

dx

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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What Dx meant to say is yes and no. 

 

In relation to courts and the claimant yes it is a waiting game but in the mean time read up on the forum other threads similar to this. 

 

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Evening Caggers

 

I've been reading some of the other PAPLOC threads over the week (spinning fish's was very helpful), can I start to prepare a WS in anticipation this rolling on further or do I need to wait until Overdales sends the OH their WS, so I can respond in kind to it?

 

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Why are you reading paploc threads??

 

next move is not yours.

youve filed the defence.

the court will write acking that

stating theyve fwd it to the claimant

and they now have 28days to do something

else the claim gets auto stayed.

 

if they do, then blank dq n180 from the court directly is your next move.

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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No harm in making notes of things you need to remember or point out. You just need to play the waiting game now 

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Hi Caggers the other half hasn't had anything from Lowells solicitors since submitting her defence on MCOL at the start of the month. Is this standard practice from them as we couldn't see anything on MCOL with a response from them either. Thanks PM 

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On 04/03/2022 at 20:27, dx100uk said:

next move is not yours.

youve filed the defence.

the court will write acking that

stating theyve fwd it to the claimant

and they now have 28days to do something

else the claim gets auto stayed.

 

if they do, then blank dq n180 from the court directly is your next move.

 

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi Caggers

The OH received the attached letter today,

 

they say on the 29 February 2016 the account defaulted, however accordingly to the DN sent by Overdales (I checked before posting) from November 15 would suggest otherwise. 

 

I'm not sure how they came to 29 February 2016 for a default date other than they have mixed up her account with someone else's. 

 

Should I get the OH to hold and wait for it to go to court as this letter would seem to be part of the agree a settlement process. 

 

Page 2 is just a break down of how the OH can settle the amount so I didn't bother scanning and PDFing but I can if need be. Thanks PM

 

 

20220329-Overdales Defence Response Front Page.pdf

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the debt is statute barred.

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi Caggers OH received a DQ N180 today,

the covering letter was dated 25 Mar 22 so the previous post they've not really given the OH 7 days to response. 

 

Noting DX100's comment regarding a blank DQ n180 direct from the court, I take it the OH would agree or not agree to mediation

 

I've have a read up on the gov.uk website and it basically says the DQ is where the Judge will give instructions (directions) to both parties. 

 

I also noticed that the n180 Overdales have sent to the court is  a much older version than is currently in use, would that make a difference as they are effectively the same format just with Overdales barcodes inserted etc. 

 

I've attached what they sent anyway and will continue reading up as they have me confused as to the OH's next step, pretty easy mind. 

 

Thanks PM

 

overdales N180.pdf

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please remember to NAMe you PDF logically not just the default name from the program.

 

what does MCOL say, under status about N180's?

 

dx

 

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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dx there is only acknowledgement of service and the OH's defence submission showing in the claim history on MCOL nothing suggesting N180 action has been submitted by Overdales.  I double checked as I check MCOL first to see if anything is on there to go off before having a read up and posting.

 

I will use a different merge pdf next time I wasn't able to change the name once downloaded.

 

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Then as you'll read in any Lowell vanquis claimform thread here already it's sent to mainly harass and intimidate.

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi Caggers

the OH has still not received an N180 request from the court yet, should she continue to wait for the request to drop through the letter box or should she just complete one and send to the court and overdales anyway? 

 

I'm concerned the OH may have inadvertently shot herself in the foot with inaction. 

 

I couldn't find a timeline for the court to contact the defendant only that the defendant has to respond to the N180 request by the stipulated court deadline. 

 

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If the status on MCOL states that the claim has moved to allocation and DQs have been dispatched then yes you can use one of our copies...if not and the last entry is your defence submitted..... then you wait 

 

 

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Morning Caggers

 

On the N180 can I put myself down as a witness so I can answer questions/queries on my OH's behalf or is that not allowed.  The form isn't very clear and whilst I can do a script for the OH, she'd rather I spoke on her behalf.  Cheers PM

 

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You put 1 wit down.. the defendant

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Evening Caggers

has anyone come across Northampton County Court Business Centre not passing on DQ responses for upload to MCOL

 

The OH responded the same day she received the DQ and sent via recorded post to which it was signed for a couple of days later (25 Apr) and well within time of the deadline she was given by the court (09 May). 

 

She has tried ringing the court numerous times only to be hung up on after waiting in long queues and no responses to emails either. 

 

She is concerned with MCOL not being updated that it will reflect badly if/when she has to go to court further down the line. 

 

I've read from various sources online that the staff at the court aren't the best either which doesn't fill us with confidence.  Thanks in advance PM.

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theres a couple here of recent where they took a time to file it

dont worry 

you have proof.

 

dx

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Have you checked the MCOL status by logging  in and checking the dash board...it will state who/date has filed the DQs.

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