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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

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By the way, you might imagine that with all the GDPR revolution of the last couple years and the big push on new standards and new transparency et cetera that all the companies would be on top of it and squeaky clean.

In fact the view that I've taken is that the GDPR initiative has backfired because it has produced such a deluge of complaints to the ICO that they aren't able to handle it any more. This means that it takes ages – maybe three months even to get a reference number and longer to get your complaint dealt with. I have a sense that they are prioritising them and not dealing with them all and sending you back  again and again to the data processor to get a solution there – and if you get a solution, then the ICO don't seem to be very interested in at least admonishing the processor for a statutory breach.

The ICO is under resourced and didn't receive the basics that it needed in order to deal with the new GDPR regime. The companies supplied huge funds to it all – and I think they now realise that it hasn't made a huge amount of difference – and in fact that life has become easier for them because an overworked ICO is less likely to apply sanctions.

At the end of the day, the victim of it all is the data subject – you, and me, and one man and their dog

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They haven't yet filed a defence and so you haven't yet had a directions questionnaire.

I suggest that you send them a letter of claim giving them 14 days or you will take legal action. All that does is reserve your position. You don't need to go ahead with it. But on the other hand, although it's not the way to do it, when you get the directions questionnaire – assuming that they defend your claim – then you might like to inform the judge that you wish to amend your claim to include a claim for compensation for breach of statutory duty because of their non-compliance with the DPA rules.

It wouldn't be very much. I would suggest simply £50 for distress – and that will do it. The important thing is to keep it as a money claim so that it doesn't complicate things – but if you happen to get a judgement for 50 quid then that would be the equivalent to getting a proper judgement for breach of statutory duty.

I suppose it's unlikely to happen because they will react before then – but if you did get such a judgement, then you could usefully forwarded to the FCA and also the ICO and of course we would publish it here

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I will get the LBA drawn up. If i was to file it as a totally separate case do you think it would be viewed as acceptable? It's cheaper to file a £50 claim than to pay the application fee to amend the current claim? also, with the potential part 20 defendant of Pentagon Ltd being brought in, it might be cleaner?

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Well you are certainly right about the cost .  Can't decide what would be best. I was rather hoping that if you included the application on the directions questionnaire that it might slip by. Send the letter of claim anyway – you have two weeks to think about it

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Strictly speaking a claim under the DPA would be a part 8 claim because you would effectively be asking for an order that they comply with your subject access request – and also definitely be asking for a judgement. This takes you into difficult terrain. No small claims. Danger of costs if you lose. Much more complicated procedure all round.

So you simply express it as a money claim for 50 quid.

If you want to issue the claim then will help you prepare a little particulars which will get it through.

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Letter Before Action

 

Sirs,

 

On 24 August 2020 I made an SAR by email. You acknowledged this and asked for ID, which I supplied on 31 August 2020.

 

Since then despite having chased this by email on 2 occasions you have failed to make any further replies and you have failed to supply me with the data that I am entitled to. 

 

Your failure to give me the data is causing me a great deal of worry and I am very concerned as to why you are not sending it to me. 

 

If you do not supply the data within 14 days I will issue a County Court Claim against you for damages of £50 for the stress and worry that you are causing me by your failure to abide by the law.

 

Regards

 

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Sorry but £500 is out of the question.

Keep it to a very modest amount because the whole objective is to cause trouble – and not to make money. You won't be able to win this kind of money anyway on this claim

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Sorry but £500 is out of the question.

Keep it to a very modest amount because the whole objective is to cause trouble – and not to make money. You won't be able to win this kind of money anyway on this claim

Typo, sorry - was the £50 you said. post edited.

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Sent this today:

 

9 October 2020

 

LETTER BEFORE ACTION

 

Sirs,

 

As it has not been possible to resolve this matter amicably, and it is apparent that court action may be necessary, I write in compliance with the Practice Direction on Pre-Action Conduct.

 

On 12 August 2020 I made a Subject Access Request under the Data Protection Act 2018. You acknowledged this on 24 August 2020 and asked for confirmation of ID and address, which I supplied to you on 31 August 2020.

 

Since then – despite my having chased this by email on 2 occasions - you have failed to make any further replies and you have failed to supply me with the data that I am entitled to. 

 

Your failure to give me the data is causing me a great deal of worry and I am very concerned as to why you are not sending it to me. 

 

If you do not supply the data within 14 days, I will issue a County Court Claim against you for damages of £50 for the distress and worry that you are causing me by your failure to abide by the law. You will know that you were required to provide the data within 30 days, unless you gave me compelling reasons as to why it would take you longer.

 

I look forward to hearing from you within the next 14 days. Should I not receive a response to my letter within this time frame, then I anticipate that court action will be commenced with no further reference to you.

 

In closing, I would draw your attention to paragraphs 15 and 16 of the Practice Direction which gives the courts the power to impose sanctions on the parties if they fail to comply with the direction including failing to respond to this letter before claim. 

 

Faithfully,

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Creation have a appointed the city law firm Eversheds to defend the section 75 car claim. They claim that they have filed an AoS stating that they intend to defend in full. Will update when the defence is filed. 

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I don't exactly want to tell you that I told you so – but I think now we may be seeing that it would have been helpful if you had sued the dealer as well

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Why would it have been helpful? Creation were always going to employ a massive law firm and were always going to file a defence, have I missed something? Creation can either bring Marshalls in as a part 20 defendant or they can charge them through their contractual mechanisms.

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Because it would have pitted them against each other. The dealer would have been the weaker party - and it would have been interesting if Evershed's had then been asked to defend both of them. I can imagine any way that Evershed will try to fix the blame on the dealer – and although I don't see that working – if it did, then you would be left to sue the dealer separately.
It is the dealer who has misled you and I think that you would need to establish their responsibility – and by suing creation alone, the dealer are not a party and therefore they can't be obliged to provide evidence or to make sworn statements et cetera so you can't force them at the moment to contribute anything useful to the litigation. They would need to be made a party in order to do that

 

At the moment you will have to produce evidence to attack Evershed's which in fact will be evidence that really is only directly in the knowledge of the dealer so in a way you will be relying upon hearsay. Of course you are a litigant in person so you have some licence – but still, it would have been better to make sure everybody had been invited to the party so that they were all accessible to directions to produce evidence – and at the moment they're not

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I am hoping that they will bring a counterclaim against Marshall, properly pleaded. If they leave marshall out of it, it does not hurt evidentially. I have lots of evidence. recordings, emails, reports, contracts, I have loads of stuff.

 

The only thing that would concern me would be if they denied s.75 applied for some very technical reason. Other than that I have the evidence.

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Yes but you are in a position where you have to begin by approving the substantive liability. Although section 75 of the consumer credit act means that the finance company shares contractual liability equally with the dealer, you have to prove the liability first.

If you want to think of it in terms of tort – what you're saying here is that creation are vicariously liable for the acts of the dealer. This is broadly correct – but on the other hand, you need to prove the substantive liability of the actor first before you can then transfer the liability to the responsible third party

I don't see any reason why they should bring a counterclaim against Marshall or anyone. All they have to show us that they didn't breach the contract – and they didn't

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And incidentally, you can only bring a counterclaim against somebody who was already a party to the claim. You have to be countering something.

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I really have to disagree. They are liable for any breaches of contract or misrepresentations. On paper those are proven way beyond the civil standard. The documentary evidence of the mileage and the forensic reports alone are weighty, but combined with the video, the adverts and the approved scheme rules, they have a huge mountain to overcome. 

 

With Marshall not in as a D there is nobody to rebut. The salesman no longer works for them so they can't call him either way.

 

I am going to guess that the argument will be over the level of damages and possibly a technical argument over s75

 

"And incidentally, you can only bring a counterclaim against somebody who was already a party to the claim. You have to be countering something."

 

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part20#20.5

 

You can issue a counterclaim against a third party. It happens in s75 cases all the time.

 

Counterclaim against a person other than the claimant

20.5

(1) A defendant who wishes to counterclaim against a person other than the claimant must apply to the court for an order that that person be added as an additional party.

(2) An application for an order under paragraph (1) may be made without notice unless the court directs otherwise.

(3) Where the court makes an order under paragraph (1), it will give directions as to the management of the case.

 

 

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Firstly, let me say that I hope you're right. However, as you say they are liable for breaches of contract or misrepresentations and those have to be proven first of all.

Let's see how it goes.

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I hope so too.

I will post the defence when it arrives.

 

I am 50/50 as to whether I think they will bring Marshalls in as a part 20 defendant.

It both helps and hurts them, however as you say it will set them against each other, which may be a good thing for me.

Let's see.

Thank you .

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I can't see why they should bring the dealer in. If the dealer isn't in it then there is no way to compel any direct evidence.

It certainly would be a good thing to have them against each other

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1 hour ago, sallyblackburn said:

Creation were always going to employ a massive law firm

 

eversheds are solicitors for hire but part of the Creation Group of Companies or their parents - just one desk nearer the bog..

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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